[Anomandaris]

Im here, back in a couple, sorry Im late, fuck net crashed AGAIN, but its fixed(again) and I will now be able to join in, mon. Lord ha'mercy

[Tennes]

Galayn Lord, on Feb 19 2009, 09:59 AM, said:

Tennes, on Feb 19 2009, 10:51 AM, said:

Galayn Lord, on Feb 19 2009, 09:46 AM, said:

Tennes, on Feb 19 2009, 10:43 AM, said:

Galayn Lord, on Feb 19 2009, 09:36 AM, said:

I want Tennes to answer my question.

You're saying that people with vig kills collect the gold? So those people are more concerned with collecting gold than killing the ninjas?

If a pirate has collected lots of gold but the ninjas win, will the gold mean anything?

I am not saying anything in particular, I was just wondering about your question. It seemed to me that it's something a ninja would wonder about, rather than a Pirate. I might be wrong of course, but I find it interesting.

Why do you think this is something a ninja would wonder about?

Because I think it's pretty obvious why any of us would do this - the question you asked I thought seemed superfluous.
Unless you think it was not pirates but ninjas that have killed.


Edit: grammar

I don't see it as obvious why people would use their day kills so early. Why not explain it to me?

I'm more concerned about getting the ninjas than about the gold right now. Maybe i'm treating it too much like normal mafia, but i'm afraid you're going to have to explain why i'm wrong to me.

[Galain]

Path-Shaper, on Feb 18 2009, 10:17 PM, said:

Out for a bit. I think Ment might be around. If you have a Day action you absolutely must use, have some patience - I'm on a beer run.

@tennes - think that explains why some people used day vigs.

[Tennes]

Galain, on Feb 19 2009, 11:49 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on Feb 18 2009, 10:17 PM, said:

Out for a bit. I think Ment might be around. If you have a Day action you absolutely must use, have some patience - I'm on a beer run.

@tennes - think that explains why some people used day vigs.

I interpreted that as mod exasperation rather than suggesting that some people had to use day kills on day 1. I'd be disappointed if we had two people with day kills who had to use them on day 1, because with 4 ninjas we're now already up against it, IMO. It's like we're on day 2 with no info.

But maybe you're right.

[Tennes]

Those who've used your vig kills, were you forced to use them today?

[Galain]

There are perhaps time constrained actions or players which must use abilities or face losing them. I am duious about mockra because he claimed that he killed stalker, yet seems adamant that the ninja will do nothing tonight. I can't see a day vig with healing or guard capabilities to stop any night kills.

[Hood's Path]

Tennes, on Feb 19 2009, 05:56 AM, said:

Galain, on Feb 19 2009, 11:49 AM, said:

Path-Shaper, on Feb 18 2009, 10:17 PM, said:

Out for a bit. I think Ment might be around. If you have a Day action you absolutely must use, have some patience - I'm on a beer run.

@tennes - think that explains why some people used day vigs.

I interpreted that as mod exasperation rather than suggesting that some people had to use day kills on day 1. I'd be disappointed if we had two people with day kills who had to use them on day 1, because with 4 ninjas we're now already up against it, IMO. It's like we're on day 2 with no info.

But maybe you're right.

Did the board go down for anyone else, or is my internet screwy. Anyway, we're not completely without info. Just sorting it out from all the spam is tricky. So far we know the following.

We need to kill four ninjas. Whether it turns into last man standing after that I dunno, but you're right ninjas should be our priority at this point.
Korlat gave us this info. For now he's PP, but I would like to point out that he gave us something that isnt game-breaking, only useful once and would be known by a ninja.
There seems to be a large number of people with various enforced roleplay conditions. General consensus is that only pirates would have RP constraints, which is exactly why I think there's at least one ninja in that bunch - it would be very easy for a ninja to make up their own condition and stick with, it blending in.
Two people had day vigs. Not sure how many more there might be, but I doubt it will be more than one or two. Bit of a waste using them so early, but w/e. Request for opinion - would ninjas have day vigs? I'm leaning towards no, so mockra and Serc are PP for now.
Gold has some sort of importance, it was added to the game to spread a bit of confusion and up the death rate it seems.

Anyone else is welcome to add some stuff to that.

[Hood's Path]

Galain, on Feb 19 2009, 05:59 AM, said:

There are perhaps time constrained actions or players which must use abilities or face losing them. I am duious about mockra because he claimed that he killed stalker, yet seems adamant that the ninja will do nothing tonight. I can't see a day vig with healing or guard capabilities to stop any night kills.

That statement was a little weird, but from what I've seen so far, there could in all probability be a blanket bp or something similar to help balance.

[Fener]

Anomandaris, on Feb 19 2009, 06:38 AM, said:

Im here, back in a couple, sorry Im late, fuck net crashed AGAIN, but its fixed(again) and I will now be able to join in, mon. Lord ha'mercy

Jamaican priest?

Also, I just a be a friendly, fun-loving, occasionally lonely pirate...

[Fener]

Galain, on Feb 19 2009, 05:06 AM, said:

Hood's Path, on Feb 19 2009, 09:52 AM, said:

Checking in for a bit. Thanks for replying Galain. Your take on the gold situation does seem likely. The way I see it, the gold might just be the most important aspect of the game. The ninjas are on the boat to get their gold back, the only way they can do so is by killing all the pirates and taking it from them. After all the ninjas are dead, I think the gold decides which pirate wins. Either a winner will be declared straight away (whoever has the most gold) or the remaining pirates will duke it out till they have all the gold. An interesting mechanic - the pirates have to try get as much of their comrades gold without weakening their team enough to let the ninjas win.

Any idea who gets lynch gold now that the captain is dead?

none, maybe we all get a share? If so lynching mockra or serc may be the best idea for gold, but best hold them until later, i think we need to find the ninjas first. PS made it clear we werent doing that, and frankly i am amazed the mods went to the trouble of readign the thread with the amount of spam in it.

My foremost ninja suspicions are those doing rp, most specifically fener who is voting for night. There are a few people who seem to be trying to PI fener as a result of the rp (mockra for one). Actually i want to look back over it but dont think i could be bothered so maybe someone can remember, but wasnt it mockra who said that ninjas only kill at night so because he day vigged stalker he was a pirate? He also seems sure that the ninjas wont do anything tonight, hinting at some sort of mass healing role and 'cleared' all of the rp players.

remove vote

vote mockra

REASONING - I don't like spam, i dislike the way you are 'rping' and clearing others. You seem to imply you have a mass healing role yet day vigged another player and you have gold for certain. You seem to be protecting fener, and implying ninjas can only kill at night to clear yourself and serc. Did i mention the spam?

The night vote is a joke, matey--have a sense of humor!

[Mockra]

Galain, on Feb 19 2009, 11:06 AM, said:

Hood's Path, on Feb 19 2009, 09:52 AM, said:

Checking in for a bit. Thanks for replying Galain. Your take on the gold situation does seem likely. The way I see it, the gold might just be the most important aspect of the game. The ninjas are on the boat to get their gold back, the only way they can do so is by killing all the pirates and taking it from them. After all the ninjas are dead, I think the gold decides which pirate wins. Either a winner will be declared straight away (whoever has the most gold) or the remaining pirates will duke it out till they have all the gold. An interesting mechanic - the pirates have to try get as much of their comrades gold without weakening their team enough to let the ninjas win.

Any idea who gets lynch gold now that the captain is dead?

none, maybe we all get a share? If so lynching mockra or serc may be the best idea for gold, but best hold them until later, i think we need to find the ninjas first. PS made it clear we werent doing that, and frankly i am amazed the mods went to the trouble of readign the thread with the amount of spam in it.

My foremost ninja suspicions are those doing rp, most specifically fener who is voting for night. There are a few people who seem to be trying to PI fener as a result of the rp (mockra for one). Actually i want to look back over it but dont think i could be bothered so maybe someone can remember, but wasnt it mockra who said that ninjas only kill at night so because he day vigged stalker he was a pirate? He also seems sure that the ninjas wont do anything tonight, hinting at some sort of mass healing role and 'cleared' all of the rp players.

remove vote

vote mockra

REASONING - I don't like spam, i dislike the way you are 'rping' and clearing others. You seem to imply you have a mass healing role yet day vigged another player and you have gold for certain. You seem to be protecting fener, and implying ninjas can only kill at night to clear yourself and serc. Did i mention the spam?

Spam? Fair play. No one likes it, bar me and Telas.
RPing is over now, mehearties. Gettin serious. Yarr.
Clearing others? Well, I can see RP as being evidence of pirateness. Especially those who've been using it consistently.
I had a single day-vig.
I also have one other power. It is not a mass heal. I cannot heal. And I am guessing ninjas are night vigs as so far pirates are using day vigs, afaics.
I don't really need to clear myself. I've been RPing, I haven't faced a counterclaim, and if someone wants to claim for my night action, feel free.
Also, why go for Pirates when we have Ninjas onboard? Especially at this stage.
Remove vote
Vote Galayn Lord
Because he's annoying me.

As for the lynch gold, it goes to someone other than the captain once the captain is dead, and then when they are dead, its divided up amongst us. Mods told me a little more than necessary perhaps.

[Mockra]

I wasn't forced to use my Day Kill, but I decided I might as well use it. I made the mistake of judging everyone elses power levels to be equal to my own, so I guessed we'd have more Day Vigs, esp after JA got taken out.

[Hood's Path]

Mockra, on Feb 19 2009, 06:19 AM, said:

Galain, on Feb 19 2009, 11:06 AM, said:

Hood's Path, on Feb 19 2009, 09:52 AM, said:

Checking in for a bit. Thanks for replying Galain. Your take on the gold situation does seem likely. The way I see it, the gold might just be the most important aspect of the game. The ninjas are on the boat to get their gold back, the only way they can do so is by killing all the pirates and taking it from them. After all the ninjas are dead, I think the gold decides which pirate wins. Either a winner will be declared straight away (whoever has the most gold) or the remaining pirates will duke it out till they have all the gold. An interesting mechanic - the pirates have to try get as much of their comrades gold without weakening their team enough to let the ninjas win.

Any idea who gets lynch gold now that the captain is dead?

none, maybe we all get a share? If so lynching mockra or serc may be the best idea for gold, but best hold them until later, i think we need to find the ninjas first. PS made it clear we werent doing that, and frankly i am amazed the mods went to the trouble of readign the thread with the amount of spam in it.

My foremost ninja suspicions are those doing rp, most specifically fener who is voting for night. There are a few people who seem to be trying to PI fener as a result of the rp (mockra for one). Actually i want to look back over it but dont think i could be bothered so maybe someone can remember, but wasnt it mockra who said that ninjas only kill at night so because he day vigged stalker he was a pirate? He also seems sure that the ninjas wont do anything tonight, hinting at some sort of mass healing role and 'cleared' all of the rp players.

remove vote

vote mockra

REASONING - I don't like spam, i dislike the way you are 'rping' and clearing others. You seem to imply you have a mass healing role yet day vigged another player and you have gold for certain. You seem to be protecting fener, and implying ninjas can only kill at night to clear yourself and serc. Did i mention the spam?

Spam? Fair play. No one likes it, bar me and Telas.
RPing is over now, mehearties. Gettin serious. Yarr.
Clearing others? Well, I can see RP as being evidence of pirateness. Especially those who've been using it consistently.
I had a single day-vig.
I also have one other power. It is not a mass heal. I cannot heal. And I am guessing ninjas are night vigs as so far pirates are using day vigs, afaics.
I don't really need to clear myself. I've been RPing, I haven't faced a counterclaim, and if someone wants to claim for my night action, feel free.
Also, why go for Pirates when we have Ninjas onboard? Especially at this stage.
Remove vote
Vote Galayn Lord
Because he's annoying me.

As for the lynch gold, it goes to someone other than the captain once the captain is dead, and then when they are dead, its divided up amongst us. Mods told me a little more than necessary perhaps.

Firstly how would someone claim your NA if you havent said what it is. Dont say what it is, the less the ninja know the better. Still a weird statement to put in your defense.

Also, how many times do I have to say RP =/= pirate? We dont know that anyone who's RPing is actually forced to. I'm sure the people who are, are pirates; but to pretend to have an RP isnt a new or particularly hard strategy for scum.

And the mods told me exactly the same things about lynch gold, although they did say that the role of the next in line would not be revealed. I dont think it's THAT important at this point.

[Telas]

Im here. Seems not too much has happened sincee I left.

[Telas]

Firstly, i'm gonna

remove vote

No-ones counter claimed serc, and if they were gonna they would've by now I reckon. No point keeping it on.

My thoughts on the RP:

Some people have been Rp'ing from the very beginning. I doubt they're ninjas really, but i'm not gonna judge based solely on that.
Some people haven't been doing it from the start. This may be because they didn't need too, or it could be because thats when they picekd up on it. I think the people who started RP late are more likely to be ninjas than those who've been doing it all along, but as I say, I don't like judging based purely on RP.

[Hood's Path]

Telas, on Feb 19 2009, 06:41 AM, said:

Firstly, i'm gonna

remove vote

No-ones counter claimed serc, and if they were gonna they would've by now I reckon. No point keeping it on.

My thoughts on the RP:

Some people have been Rp'ing from the very beginning. I doubt they're ninjas really, but i'm not gonna judge based solely on that.
Some people haven't been doing it from the start. This may be because they didn't need too, or it could be because thats when they picekd up on it. I think the people who started RP late are more likely to be ninjas than those who've been doing it all along, but as I say, I don't like judging based purely on RP.

That's a pretty good point. Unfortunately I dont have time to look into it, as I gotta step out for a couple of hours. I think I'm gonna leave my vote on GL, since I'm not sure if I'll be back before end of day.

[Mockra]

Well, look, imo, if someone wants to counterclaim my night action, which afaik will go through regardless of what happens, feel free to make up some mechanics for it.

[Telas]

Mockra and Rashan have been doing there RP since their first post.
Fener got on at 2:08 pm, first post about hugging and being friends was 3:04 pm. Fener arrived later than Rash and Mockra.
All of korlats posts that I can see are in his RP.

[Mockra]

Well, I'm tempted to believe Korlat is inno, because of the information he gave us. It doesn't help the ninjas to give us that, and as it's really a one-shot, he's not very valuable anymore (unless he has more abilities, which wouldn't surprise me in the least).

[Telas]

Well, I believe Rashans cause he was like the second on, and started then.
I think I believe all of them for now. Of all of them, feners is the odd one out. Partly because he arrived later, which isn't his fault, and secondly because he didn't start immediately. Not much, but theres not much on anyone at this point.