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MAFIA 39.5 - Pirates vs. Ninjas

#1941 User is offline   Galain 

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Posted 21 February 2009 - 11:24 AM

sure isnt fener protecting us all???

have to say that was a second late swing to a random who wasnt there.

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Posted 21 February 2009 - 11:37 AM

Damnit I need to sleep but I want to see the outcome of night first O___o

#1943 User is offline   Galain 

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Posted 21 February 2009 - 11:41 AM

night ended 3 mins ago

#1944 User is offline   Tennes 

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Posted 21 February 2009 - 11:42 AM

No it didn't. 4-5 minutes to go.

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Posted 21 February 2009 - 11:43 AM

Whoops, I was looking at ps's night post, not the hammer. So you're right.

Sorry.

#1946 User is offline   Galain 

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Posted 21 February 2009 - 11:44 AM

chheky git :p

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Posted 21 February 2009 - 11:45 AM

Noone Died
It is Day 2.

You have 36 hours left

14 people are still alive: Hood's Path, Galain, Galayn Lord, Fener, Serc, Omtose, Anomandaris, Telas, D'riss, Tennes, Korlat, Silanah, Emurlahn, Kessobahn,
8 votes to lynch



Its is Day 3 (i think)

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 21 February 2009 - 11:46 AM

Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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#1948 User is offline   Galain 

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Posted 21 February 2009 - 11:47 AM

well fener told the truth, or he is the ninja :p

vote galayn lord

two derailed trains. thats my case.

going to go do something with my saturday afternoon.

#1949 User is offline   Tennes 

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Posted 21 February 2009 - 11:47 AM

View PostPath-Shaper, on Feb 21 2009, 11:45 AM, said:

Noone Died

Its is Day 3 (i think)


Great. :p

So, do we assume that Fener is a pirate for now? Or do we think it's all a cunning ploy to gain our trust?

Personally, I wouldn't be happy lynching him today.

#1950 User is offline   Galayn Lord 

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Posted 21 February 2009 - 11:50 AM

View PostGalain, on Feb 21 2009, 12:47 PM, said:

well fener told the truth, or he is the ninja :p

vote galayn lord

two derailed trains. thats my case.

going to go do something with my saturday afternoon.

Are you for real? It's not my fault that people make lousy cases that doesn't hold water. All I've done is defend myself and point to better choices. NOT. MY. FAULT.

#1951 User is offline   D'riss 

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Posted 21 February 2009 - 11:50 AM

Well im off to sleep then :p
Fener is still a PI in my opinion considering i think the ninjas decide on someone to kill so they all need to agree. But we can assume he is a pirate for now.

#1952 User is offline   Galayn Lord 

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Posted 21 February 2009 - 11:54 AM

View PostD'riss, on Feb 21 2009, 12:50 PM, said:

Well im off to sleep then :p
Fener is still a PI in my opinion considering i think the ninjas decide on someone to kill so they all need to agree. But we can assume he is a pirate for now.

Agreed, but I definitely trust Fener more now.

#1953 User is offline   Tennes 

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Posted 21 February 2009 - 11:57 AM

View PostGalain, on Feb 21 2009, 11:47 AM, said:

well fener told the truth, or he is the ninja :p

vote galayn lord

two derailed trains. thats my case.

going to go do something with my saturday afternoon.


I'm contradiciting what I said yesterday, but i've slept on this and come to think that it doesn't make GL particularly likely to be guilty.

Speaking as someone who was voting for GL for much of day 2, I can't say i'm too happy about the case. The initial case on him was weak. The day 2 case was only marginally better. It's no great surprise that people weren't too impressed with either case.

Look at it from GL's point of view. Someone makes a weak case on him. He doesn't get lynched because the case was poor. So this is used against him the next day, which is almost as weak. So he gets out of it. And him not getting lynched is used against him again. How frustrating that must be. Do we expect that everyone with a lynch train on them should get lynched, else they're a ninja? By that logic, everyone who does get lynched is a pirate. Which suggests we've got no hope. Which is rubbish, because we can still win this despite the spam and the vig kills.

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Posted 21 February 2009 - 11:59 AM

View PostTennes, on Feb 21 2009, 12:57 PM, said:

View PostGalain, on Feb 21 2009, 11:47 AM, said:

well fener told the truth, or he is the ninja :p

vote galayn lord

two derailed trains. thats my case.

going to go do something with my saturday afternoon.


I'm contradiciting what I said yesterday, but i've slept on this and come to think that it doesn't make GL particularly likely to be guilty.

Speaking as someone who was voting for GL for much of day 2, I can't say i'm too happy about the case. The initial case on him was weak. The day 2 case was only marginally better. It's no great surprise that people weren't too impressed with either case.

Look at it from GL's point of view. Someone makes a weak case on him. He doesn't get lynched because the case was poor. So this is used against him the next day, which is almost as weak. So he gets out of it. And him not getting lynched is used against him again. How frustrating that must be. Do we expect that everyone with a lynch train on them should get lynched, else they're a ninja? By that logic, everyone who does get lynched is a pirate. Which suggests we've got no hope. Which is rubbish, because we can still win this despite the spam and the vig kills.

^^ What he said. :p

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Posted 21 February 2009 - 12:03 PM

I want to look at Telas, but he has has 272 posts, which is a nightmare to wade through. Can anyone point me to anything original he's said? Clearly he's had the time.

Be back in a few hours.

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Posted 21 February 2009 - 12:05 PM

I'm off too. Not sure when I will be on next, in a couple of hours maybe.

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Posted 21 February 2009 - 01:09 PM

ey mon. Looks like were all in one piece. I am na going to be around much today, but I tink I may have ta do a re-read. Not right now, but sometime today. Also want ta point out, that after my continued efforts yesterday, I tink I may have tunnel vision. Hopefully someone can come up wit a case.

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Posted 21 February 2009 - 01:10 PM

Well, i'm here.
Couple of things i did at a time no one else was doing them.

Looking at omtose for example, which i'd still like to do.
Pointing out that both GL trains had dissapeared near the lynch. Interestingly, both times, Silanah was involved, iirc. He pushed GL during the day, then leaves onto another train, which quickly picks up steam.
I also pointed out that you'd contributed very little at all, that I can see. In fact, i'd almost forgotten you were playing. So, whats original that you've said, out of interest?

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Posted 21 February 2009 - 01:29 PM

This is my case on Tennes. Suppose it may look OMGUS, but if you remember I voiced concerns about him last night too, before he voiced his concerns about me this morning.

View PostTennes, on Feb 19 2009, 10:17 PM, said:

View PostGalayn Lord, on Feb 19 2009, 10:12 PM, said:

Not sure about Fener - might be a stunt to prove he's innocent. I am suspecting Shadow wasn't telling the whole truth either.
Who thinks ninjas don't get cf's when they die? They're stealthy buggers after all. And since Ruse was being looked at, it was not much of a sacrifice for the ninjas.

vote Fener

We need to resolve this.


Did you just suggest that a ninja vig killed another ninja? Assuming that they know each other, that's daft.

I'm happy to lynch Fener today. I didn't like the people using their kills yesterday and I don't today. We could find ourselves losing this game very quickly. If you have a lynch train going, you can analyse voting patterns and look for inconsistencies or defences of others. But if everyone's just vig killing, we don't get any info apart from a possible (?) cf. It's almost completely random.

We're losing lynches and therefore losing information.


He's happy to lynch Fener. Then some standard stuff about lynch trains=information etc.

View PostTennes, on Feb 20 2009, 03:02 PM, said:

View PostKorlat, on Feb 20 2009, 02:52 PM, said:

iddddddddddddtssssss hyw idi Gylordds guuuuu uaftor da unly eople whhhhhhhhhhhoooooooo ighmt eeeeb PIIIII



Remove vote

Vote Galayn Lord


Whatever the hell you're saying, I agree with it.

Vote Galayn Lord.


Blindly agrees with Korlat here.

View PostTennes, on Feb 20 2009, 11:32 PM, said:

Lynching Rashan for lack of contribution is not a bad idea - Such lynches are always better done sooner rather than later. On the other hand, if I had to talk in Spanish for a day, i'd be mighty pissed.

I'm happy with lynching Galayn Lord (i'm voting for him at the moment), the way he weaseled out of yesterdays lynch and is rapidly weaseling out of todays is worrying. However, the fact that he hammered Shadow is, IMO, a mark in his favour.

I'm just popping in, and I won't be i'll be around for the end of the day. So I have to pick one of them now.

Vote Rashan


He's happy lynching GL.
Ofc he's happy lynching GL. His votes there isn't it. That vote which he cast at the time for such great reasons.
Votes Rashan in the end, to get a lynch/no contribution.
I did essentially the same thing, so can't really attack his reasons for voting Rashan. Except there is one difference. I didn't like the other major train going, namely, Galayn Lord. Which he did.

View PostTennes, on Feb 20 2009, 11:48 PM, said:

View PostTelas, on Feb 20 2009, 11:34 PM, said:

Actually tennes, GL voted after the hammer.

Thats the one thing that worries me.


Oh yeah, you're right. Still, they were within a minute of each other with massive crossposting all over the thread. I can buy it as a crosspost.

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Yesterday, Sil attacks GL. GL gets a pile of votes.
Gets close to deadline. Other people are mentioned. A bunch of people pile up on others cause of lack of time and GL is forgotten.

Today same thing is kinda happening.


This worries me too. If Rashan comes back and starts making sense, I wouldn't mind lynching Galayn at all, but I won't be here to do so.

I'm going to bed and leaving my vote where it is.

Thinks GL cross-post hammered, which is fair enough.
Agrees with me. Still wouldn't mind lynching GL.

View PostTennes, on Feb 21 2009, 11:57 AM, said:

View PostGalain, on Feb 21 2009, 11:47 AM, said:

well fener told the truth, or he is the ninja :p

vote galayn lord

two derailed trains. thats my case.

going to go do something with my saturday afternoon.


I'm contradiciting what I said yesterday, but i've slept on this and come to think that it doesn't make GL particularly likely to be guilty.

Speaking as someone who was voting for GL for much of day 2, I can't say i'm too happy about the case. The initial case on him was weak. The day 2 case was only marginally better. It's no great surprise that people weren't too impressed with either case.

Look at it from GL's point of view. Someone makes a weak case on him. He doesn't get lynched because the case was poor. So this is used against him the next day, which is almost as weak. So he gets out of it. And him not getting lynched is used against him again. How frustrating that must be. Do we expect that everyone with a lynch train on them should get lynched, else they're a ninja? By that logic, everyone who does get lynched is a pirate. Which suggests we've got no hope. Which is rubbish, because we can still win this despite the spam and the vig kills.


He voted GL on a case that he knew was weak. And now he's defending GL a bit more.

So, theres my case on Tennes. Those are pretty much every single post of his longer than a couple of lines.
He blindly hops on the GL train. Even though he later admits its weak. He insists he's happy to lynch GL, and still votes Rashan. And then he comes on today, and he's not happy to vote GL.

He's not really contributing, not much anyway. He's also voting for little/no reason. In fact, the only time he gives reasoning for voting GL, is when he's removing his vote. He's hopping around, contradicting himself, and being very middle of the road, and under the radar.

vote Tennes

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Posted 21 February 2009 - 02:30 PM

Good morning dead thread. How dead are you?

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