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Do you have to read Midnight Tides to read the sequels?

#1 User is offline   SilverFox2134 

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Posted 08 February 2009 - 10:31 PM

because all i'm really able to get out of it is Trull Sengar's story, but is it really that important? I've read several chapters now, but i just can't get into this book like I did with the others. So is there really anything important i need to read or what?
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Posted 08 February 2009 - 10:39 PM

View PostSilverFox2134, on Feb 9 2009, 09:31 AM, said:

because all i'm really able to get out of it is Trull Sengar's story, but is it really that important? I've read several chapters now, but i just can't get into this book like I did with the others. So is there really anything important i need to read or what?

You need to read it, he is intimately involved in a major plot line that is still not resolved. There are no unconnected side stories in this series. If you plan on reading through to the end, there is no point skipping this book. It's a good one. Enjoy the Tehol/Bugg chapters they provide rare light moments in a series filled with tragedy.
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Posted 08 February 2009 - 10:43 PM

It also picks up a lot in the second half. MT is not one of my favorites in the series, but I think the pacing is probably the best.
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Posted 08 February 2009 - 10:44 PM

I think everyone does a doubletake when they first read MT, but it really is one of the best.

The book gets better and better, just wait untill you see Trull begin fighting.
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Posted 08 February 2009 - 11:44 PM

A lot of people consider this one to be the best, although I wouldn't. However, I can definitely say that's it NOT worth skipping, there is still material to be enjoyed. And there is a small link to the rest of the storyline, not just the obvious, which is that this is Trull's story.
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Posted 09 February 2009 - 06:08 AM

View PostSilverFox2134, on Feb 8 2009, 05:31 PM, said:

because all i'm really able to get out of it is Trull Sengar's story, but is it really that important? I've read several chapters now, but i just can't get into this book like I did with the others. So is there really anything important i need to read or what?


You probably wont be able to understand AT LEAST some of what happens in books 6, 7, 9 and 10 if you don't...

So read on, friend!

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Posted 09 February 2009 - 11:37 AM

Its the best written book by far. Don't skip it.
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Posted 14 February 2009 - 10:40 PM

alrighty, then, i guess i'll read it XD
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Posted 06 May 2009 - 05:58 AM

I didn't like MT very much at first since it seems to step off the very loose path the previous books followed, but still after reading about 1/3 of it I loved it. If not for the story of Trull Sengar, then for the fact that it really gives a good view to the life and culture of the Tiste Edur as well as giving you some further understanding of the MBotF universe. I just finished the book myself so I don't know how much of it is referenced in further books, but I'm quessing a lot.
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Posted 06 May 2009 - 06:38 AM

Most of what happens in book 7 follows on directly from book 5, with some of the story arcs from book 6 in there too. As we get closer to the end of the series, the threads from the three different 'storylines/locations' (books 1-3-8, 2-4-6, 5-7) cross over more and more. With book 5 introducing a new storyline and a whole host of characters we see again it's probably one of the more important books. So I definitely wouldnt skip it, or any of the other books for that matter :p
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Posted 24 May 2009 - 12:01 AM

Honestly I never saw the Tiste Edur as being that important to the plot. I don't know though....
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Posted 27 May 2009 - 02:47 PM

View PostXIcy Hot Patchx, on May 24 2009, 02:01 AM, said:

Honestly I never saw the Tiste Edur as being that important to the plot. I don't know though....


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Most of what happens in book 7 follows on directly from book 5, [...]


You don't read book 5, you won't understand a single thing in book 7, as well as a good part of book 6, and probably it even stretches to book 9. Yes, that's referring to the Tiste Edur.
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Posted 27 May 2009 - 10:38 PM

The Letherii made me wish for Genocide. So far I've been dissapointed. But it's an important book.
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Posted 28 May 2009 - 08:59 AM

Dear god,yes, read it. It's one of the best in the series in my opinion. There is a divided opinion about it, but even people who rank it last would tell you to read it. Do not skip any book in this series.
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Posted 28 May 2009 - 09:12 AM

View PostXIcy Hot Patchx, on May 24 2009, 01:01 AM, said:

Honestly I never saw the Tiste Edur as being that important to the plot. I don't know though....


I never thought Tiste Edur essential. They're crude, and _unspeakably_ plain.

MT is my least favourite of all the books, but I still find it a rewarding read, purely for Bugg and Tehol, and the weirdly twisted view of history you get from the Edur and their Letherii slaves.
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Posted 28 May 2009 - 09:30 AM

View Postjitsukerr, on May 28 2009, 07:12 PM, said:

View PostXIcy Hot Patchx, on May 24 2009, 01:01 AM, said:

Honestly I never saw the Tiste Edur as being that important to the plot. I don't know though....


I never thought Tiste Edur essential. They're crude, and _unspeakably_ plain.

Being "crude and unspeakably plain" doesn't in any way reduce their importance to the plot. They are incredibly important, and provide the impetus for quite a lot of events after MT.

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Posted 28 May 2009 - 11:43 AM

View PostMappo's Travelling Sack, on May 28 2009, 11:30 AM, said:

Being "crude and uspeakably plain" doesn't in any way reduce their importance to the plot.


Dear god, yes, you say it!
Think of them as 'crude and uspeakably plain', but that doesn't make them less important. In MoI I foundthe Seguleh to be unspeakably plain. Did that reduce their significance to the story? I'd dare to say no, and the Edur play a definately bigger part. Geez.

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Posted 28 May 2009 - 06:50 PM

Segulah are awesome. The should wield sporks.
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Posted 30 May 2009 - 10:04 AM

Keep in mind that much of what we see about the Edur is after their civilization has been corrupted. Beyond that, much of your thoughts on what you might consider crude could be caused by ethnocentrism.
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Posted 30 May 2009 - 10:48 AM

View PostRaymond Luxury Yacht, on May 30 2009, 12:04 PM, said:

ethnocentrism.


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