[Path-Shaper]

SLIGHT RULE ADJUSTMENT:

After deliberations in spoiler heaven, the mods have decided that it would be too unfair for the killers if a symp gets recruited to the Necromancer team with full knowledge of the identity of their ex-masters.

In order to balance this, we decided to add to the symp role the fact that they are UNRECRUITABLE, i.e. if they are targeted for a successful NK, they will die even if a rescue attempt is made by the Necromancers.

We hope this is logical and accepted by everyone, sorry about not thinking of that from the start but we believe it does not affect anyone's game to make the correction at this point. The roles description post has been changed accordingly.

Carry on.

[Meanas]

Ok I am all caught up. Nice case on Serc Liosan. Saved me the trouble. I agree that several of his posts stand out as questionable behavior. Some of his posts you could toss up to game mechanics. But when you look at everything at once especially his redirection from killers to necro it seems like he is a killer trying to take out his main competition.


Vote Serc

[Meanas]

Ruse, on Jan 20 2009, 04:15 PM, said:

How many is that for serc now?

My day is just about done.
Considering changing to him as i wont be back till after deadline.

Would have like to have heard from him though.

With me I think that there are 7 votes for Serc.

[Path-Shaper]

It is day 1, 8 hours left in the day

23 players still playing, 12 votes to lynch, 12 votes for night


1 Vote Galain (Fener)
2 Votes Omtose (Ruse, Kessobahn)
1 Vote Thyrllan (Mockra)
3 votes Mockra (Omtose, Shadow, Thyrllan)
7 Votes Serc (Liosan, Kaschan, Galain, D'riss, Anomandaris, Hood's Path, Meanas)


9 have not voted: Ampelas, Emurlahn, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Korlat, Rashan, Serc, Silanah, Tennes.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 20 January 2009 - 03:25 PM

[Meanas]

Sweet am I the only one on and posting now. Kind of like going to a party only to find out that it had ended 3 hours earlier. Feel like a loser.


Edit: Cross post with Path-shaper....Hi Path-shaper good morning

This post has been edited by Meanas: 20 January 2009 - 03:27 PM

[Ruse]

Only thing that bothers me is how easily this train has escalated.

[Rashan]

Ok, I am on lunch now (for 5 minutes, I hate snow!) and see Serc is he target, not sure why, can anyone make a real short post as to why, I don't remember a single post of his, I may not vote at all, to be fair, but if its a good case, I'll add to the train. I have to leave very soon, so if anyone would mind this, I would appreciate it.

[Path-Shaper]

Meanas, on Jan 20 2009, 04:26 PM, said:

Edit: Cross post with Path-shaper....Hi Path-shaper good morning

'sup?

[Ruse]

Ah...in that case

Remove vote
Vote Serc

I am leaving now and wont be back untill long after night comes.
Still need 4 votes so there is allot of room to breath.

[Ruse]

Rashan, on Jan 20 2009, 03:27 PM, said:

Ok, I am on lunch now (for 5 minutes, I hate snow!) and see Serc is he target, not sure why, can anyone make a real short post as to why, I don't remember a single post of his, I may not vote at all, to be fair, but if its a good case, I'll add to the train. I have to leave very soon, so if anyone would mind this, I would appreciate it.

there's a whole case like a page back.

[Meanas]

Rashan, on Jan 20 2009, 03:27 PM, said:

Ok, I am on lunch now (for 5 minutes, I hate snow!) and see Serc is he target, not sure why, can anyone make a real short post as to why, I don't remember a single post of his, I may not vote at all, to be fair, but if its a good case, I'll add to the train. I have to leave very soon, so if anyone would mind this, I would appreciate it.

Liosan has the whole thing laid out in two posts. Can't miss it.

[D'riss]

Rashan, on Jan 20 2009, 03:27 PM, said:

Ok, I am on lunch now (for 5 minutes, I hate snow!) and see Serc is he target, not sure why, can anyone make a real short post as to why, I don't remember a single post of his, I may not vote at all, to be fair, but if its a good case, I'll add to the train. I have to leave very soon, so if anyone would mind this, I would appreciate it.

To quote myself on the previous page, these are the points from liosan's post that swung it for me:

D'riss, on Jan 20 2009, 01:30 PM, said:

1. Identifying two possible sympers, I missed this on my catch up this morning
2. Pointing out Serc's re-direction of discussion to the necros and away from the killers
3. Encouraging the witch to use her BP tonight - I disagreed with this earlier but wasn't overtly suspicious
4. His defense of Omtose, who I will still be watching

Individually nothing much doing, but add them up and it convinced me.

[Mockra]

huh
Serc's picked up a lotta votes, fast.
can't help but feel bugged by it..

[Meanas]

Ruse, on Jan 20 2009, 03:27 PM, said:

Only thing that bothers me is how easily this train has escalated.

I would share your concern but the case on Serc is one of the better day one cases that I have seen on anybody in a long time. I would rather vote for a good case then wait till the last hour of the day and let the either one of the scummy teams run a quick random lynch past everyone.

[Liosan]

Sorry for the lack of posts today but I am getting really slammed in work.

I am quite nervous by how quickly the train has grown though. That is eight votes and serc hasn't had a chance to respond to any of the points made against him. I believe we still have quite a long time left today, but as i am unsure if i will be on later i am leaving my vote where it is. Could someone who will be on closer to the deadline and has voted remove temporarily? Or at least can i urge patience until Serc speaks and is given a chance to address the points i made.

[Meanas]

Mockra, on Jan 20 2009, 03:37 PM, said:

huh
Serc's picked up a lotta votes, fast.
can't help but feel bugged by it..

Well he has 8 which is a full train but not really that close to a hammer. So there is still enough room and time for his symp to move the train off and on to someone else.

[Meanas]

Liosan, on Jan 20 2009, 03:39 PM, said:

Sorry for the lack of posts today but I am getting really slammed in work.

I am quite nervous by how quickly the train has grown though. That is eight votes and serc hasn't had a chance to respond to any of the points made against him. I believe we still have quite a long time left today, but as i am unsure if i will be on later i am leaving my vote where it is. Could someone who will be on closer to the deadline and has voted remove temporarily? Or at least can i urge patience until Serc speaks and is given a chance to address the points i made.

I should be on and if we get to 10 votes and Serc still hasn't been on to defend himself then I will remove my vote till the deadline.

[Rashan]

Liosan, on Jan 20 2009, 03:39 PM, said:

Sorry for the lack of posts today but I am getting really slammed in work.

I am quite nervous by how quickly the train has grown though. That is eight votes and serc hasn't had a chance to respond to any of the points made against him. I believe we still have quite a long time left today, but as i am unsure if i will be on later i am leaving my vote where it is. Could someone who will be on closer to the deadline and has voted remove temporarily? Or at least can i urge patience until Serc speaks and is given a chance to address the points i made.

I read your case and I guess its the best we have, unless a shot in the dark lynch comes up. I agree that the train is large, but its pretty late in the day and Serc is a reasonable target. I am going to add my vote since I won't be around at all.

Vote Serc

Back when i get the chance.

[Kessobahn]

Hmm, though Liosan's case is long and long and full of quotes. It hardly says much. Serc in essence plays much like I do, though with a slightly more scattered form of attack. Avoiding tunnel vision and questioning a lot of players is hardly a bad thing on day 1. It spurs reactions and creates discussion. Liosan's case is big, but in my opinion that's all it has going for it. Lacking focus is hardly a typical trait of neither killers nor symps, and the whole witch thing is just a question of fully understanding a new mechanic and the probability behind it.

Also, I don't like how quickly the votes have piled up. People whom I consider fishy have just been too eager to jump on.

so no, I won't vote for serc.

edit: cross post with several people, starting with Liosan

This post has been edited by Kessobahn: 20 January 2009 - 03:45 PM

[Liosan]

Just noticed path-shapers post, we have eight hours and only need four votes. Thats a lot of time. This is probably me until tomorrow, but i would urge caution, especially as it seems not one player is trying to stop the train. Gtg guys, will try to get access later, but can't promise anything.