[Kessobahn]

and I agree with Ruse btb. I see no reason for the witch to use the BP blanket tonight when the chances of an important role being hit is so small.

[Thyrllan]

Spam much kesso?

[Kessobahn]

Kessobahn, lord of quadruple posts

[Thyrllan]

Muahahah, no you're not, cause I just messed it up for you

[Kessobahn]

Thyrllan, on Jan 20 2009, 11:15 AM, said:

Spam much kesso?

um.. I'm sorry? Do you know what they say about the first stone and all, Thyrllan? ..

[Kessobahn]

Thyrllan, on Jan 20 2009, 11:16 AM, said:

Muahahah, no you're not, cause I just messed it up for you

I. must. destroy. you.

[Thyrllan]

Yep, let he who is without kettles call the first pot black.

Or something.

My post was meant seriosuly.
Irony is not allowed.
This is mafia.
We are srss.

[Thyrllan]

Kessobahn, on Jan 20 2009, 10:17 AM, said:

Thyrllan, on Jan 20 2009, 11:16 AM, said:

Muahahah, no you're not, cause I just messed it up for you

I. must. destroy. you.

By. using ran.dom. fu.ll.stops...

[Kessobahn]

Thyrllan, on Jan 20 2009, 11:18 AM, said:

Kessobahn, on Jan 20 2009, 10:17 AM, said:

Thyrllan, on Jan 20 2009, 11:16 AM, said:

Muahahah, no you're not, cause I just messed it up for you

I. must. destroy. you.

By. using ran.dom. fu.ll.stops...

It.WILL.bre.ak.you.r.Mi.ND.

[Ruse]

just to retort

Galain, on Jan 20 2009, 09:53 AM, said:

Hi Ruse!

I didn't mean you. Sorry to get you so worked up.

I was thinking in particular of whoever it was who voted based on the fact that Omtose used the word 'kill' rather than 'lynch'.

I think you may need to lighten up a little though.

Alright then, i see.
But your last post was aimed at people who jumped onto ruse for his RP/Spaming, not anything about "kill rather that lynch" so you can see how I might be confused at this statement.

Me lighten up?....when i get persecuted for being serious?
Didn't you say that you find people who dont spam as suspicious?
Excuse me for dissagreeing but you are attacking my, and anybody else who chooses not to spam, credibiltiy with a statement like that.
So I can reserve the right to get huffy, no?

Anyways I always play aggressive, seems to get results most of the time

Galain, on Jan 20 2009, 09:53 AM, said:

I think people didn't pile in on Omtose because most people could see that it was a laughably weak case. This amazingly alternative hypothesis has several benefits. It explains why most people didn't vote for Omtose and pile on to the lynch, as well as why guilty people didn't do so (it's scummy to pile onto a non-case), and it even takes into account human stupidity (some people did actually try and pile on a bit). Classy and simple.

I dissagree, if i were scum I would have made more of the way he acted and hoped people started to look harder at his actions as they can easily be construed and twisted to look like he is scum.
Well, in that regard killers nad inno's play the same. We are both looking for people who are acting like scum.
Only difference is that the scum will only point it out if that person is innocent.

[Thyrllan]

Kessobahn, on Jan 20 2009, 10:19 AM, said:

Thyrllan, on Jan 20 2009, 11:18 AM, said:

Kessobahn, on Jan 20 2009, 10:17 AM, said:

Thyrllan, on Jan 20 2009, 11:16 AM, said:

Muahahah, no you're not, cause I just messed it up for you

I. must. destroy. you.

By. using ran.dom. fu.ll.stops...

It.WILL.bre.ak.you.r.Mi.ND.

RAn.dO.M CaP.s .A.Sw.Ell .I.s I.T

T.Hi.nK th.A.Ts B.aD?

Y.tE N.hr.W I T.i.E.r W.IN NaMAm.GrA!!!

[Kessobahn]

Thyrllan, on Jan 20 2009, 11:22 AM, said:

Kessobahn, on Jan 20 2009, 10:19 AM, said:

Thyrllan, on Jan 20 2009, 11:18 AM, said:

Kessobahn, on Jan 20 2009, 10:17 AM, said:

Thyrllan, on Jan 20 2009, 11:16 AM, said:

Muahahah, no you're not, cause I just messed it up for you

I. must. destroy. you.

By. using ran.dom. fu.ll.stops...

It.WILL.bre.ak.you.r.Mi.ND.

RAn.dO.M CaP.s .A.Sw.Ell .I.s I.T

T.Hi.nK th.A.Ts B.aD?

Y.tE N.hr.W I T.i.E.r W.IN NaMAm.GrA!!!

I.. I... bluuuaaaarrrrrgggghhh...

*leaves for lecture*

[Thyrllan]

I knew throwing my keyboard against a wall would make me win

[Thyrllan]

Its actually an anagram of:

Try when I write in anagram.

[D'riss]

Right, finally caught up and the following stood out

Serc, on Jan 20 2009, 12:52 AM, said:

Ah okay, cule You know, I think it would probably be in everyone's best interest to take out the Cult, they seem the biggest danger atm. I know I'd rather have one nk, then one kill and recruit...

Agreed, every NK potentially increases their numbers.

Serc, on Jan 20 2009, 02:21 AM, said:

Im very tempted to vote D'riss, because he has what, one post, which was basically jumping on an easy target.
Any opinions?
I can pass Liosan's vote off as a joke vote, sort off.

Had an absolute nightmare at work yesterday, will hopefully be more productive today.

Ruse, on Jan 20 2009, 08:46 AM, said:

You continue to misinterpret why we (well myself at least) voted for omtose.
There is a fundamental difference between RP, Spam and causing mayhem.

You seem to think they are all the same thing.
I dont mind when people RP thats part of day one, I have loooong ago grown out of it but im definitely not AGAINST RP.
Only when it turns into mindless spam for pages and pages i start to grow wary as it starts looking like you are padding your post count wich is constantly looked at.

But thats besides the point, Omtose and yourself started causing mayhem/confusion/doubt ie. Fake revealing as scum.
You were really not helping anything. It helps the inno's not one fucking bit to pretend to be scum. Even in a joking way.
Why? Because not only are you attracting attention AWAY from what we are trying to accomplish, which by the way in case you didnt know is to catch scum, you are also sowing doubt in the inno's minds as to your intentions.
Afterall its the perfect double bluff for a killer to fake/joke reveal that he is a killer, no?
Dangerous, but rather clever.

You could also be a symp trying to get us all to look anywhere but at you're masters, so to just cause general mayhem and get us talking about any shit other that the game at hand and finding scum is pretty much your job on day one as a symp.
For me, 2 hours into day one Omtose's behaviour was more than enough reason at the time to place the vote.
And his further shenanigans little later on was enough for me to leave my vote there untill i returned today.

I will also add further, that the fact that we got 4 votes on Omtose and then the train promptly stopped picking up speed is an indication to me that I COULD be on the right track. Since there seemed to be a few people who defended Omtose somewhat.
And a few other people who blatantly changed the subject on Omtose pushing us in other directions.
Now i understand that the case was weak and people wanted to look elsewhere.
But then i ask you this, why havent the scum piled onto the Omtose train?
Surely they would have pursued his lynch as he is a classic fall boy for a day one lynch if he is inno and messing around as he has been?
But no, he got 4 votes. Unless all 4 of us are scum i think the train on him was perhaps blocked.

I would also think the Necro's dont mind lynching any old inno and would pile on any lynch train aswell.

Anyways
Enough venting from me...this post is getting way too long.

Agreed again, I didn't see any benefit for Omtose in this tactic and then when it backfired he suddenly went quiet, so for now my vote will remain

[Liosan]

Galain, on Jan 20 2009, 09:53 AM, said:

Hi Ruse!

I didn't mean you. Sorry to get you so worked up.

I was thinking in particular of whoever it was who voted based on the fact that Omtose used the word 'kill' rather than 'lynch'.

I think you may need to lighten up a little though.

I think people didn't pile in on Omtose because most people could see that it was a laughably weak case. This amazingly alternative hypothesis has several benefits. It explains why most people didn't vote for Omtose and pile on to the lynch, as well as why guilty people didn't do so (it's scummy to pile onto a non-case), and it even takes into account human stupidity (some people did actually try and pile on a bit). Classy and simple.

As for the whole question about the witch. It's an obvious trade-off between power and use. It becomes more powerful the further along in the game we go, but the witch's opportunity to use it is reduced every day, as there is potential for them to die. So, the witch must decide in their mind when the best time to use it is. Risk vs Reward. A very tactical decision for someone to make really.

Isn't it cute that you are defending the player you fake revealed killer with. For someone who is 'innocent', omtose certainly has a lot of people questioning those who voted for him 'fake' revealing. I make a point of disregarding wifom, if someone says they are going to kill on thread then i vote for them. When i called him out on it, he did it a few times after that with you, and laughed it off. Also crawling, the underlined section of that post above, is very disconcerting in mafia and reeks of over reaction. You poked ruse and he bit back hard and you seem to be scrambling by pushing attention elsewhere. Unluckily for you you pushed it toward me

I didnt remove my vote as I felt that omtose was suspicious and although he had no chance of being lynched at the time (it was 30 something hours left in day 1) i prefer action to just talk and if i say i am suspicious of someone i am going to vote for them. The defence by other players over the night and again this morning of another player because they are at L-8 has me wondering if disregarding him now is a mistake.

My main problem, not counting the loss of my quotes from this browser window (i think i had reply on your post not quote ), is that i think Serc is the most suspicious player today and during my read through i had originally discounted omtose as an attention grabbing player looking to off balance others, perhaps deliberately trying to draw a kill or to fake symp the killers i don't know. Anyway, Serc leapfrogged him to the top of my list with certain dubious posts.

I have a meeting soon, but i will make a case on serc then, in brief they seem to be pushing suspicion around the place and discussing innocent roles and forming strategies that roled innocents should follow on day 1 which is almost as bad as saying "if i die tonight".

remove vote

vote serc

I also got the distinct impression they were protecting players with timely accusations, i need to find the specific posts again. I will be back in hopefully half an hour to an hour with a short case on serc to back up my vote.

[Path-Shaper]

It is day 1, 12.5 hours left in the day

23 players still playing, 12 votes to lynch, 12 votes for night

1 Vote Kaschan (Galain)
1 Vote Galain (Fener)
3 Votes Omtose (Ruse, Kessobahn, D'riss)
1 Vote Thyrllan (Mockra)
3 votes Mockra (Omtose, Shadow, Thyrllan)
1 Vote Serc (Liosan)


13 have not voted: Ampelas, Anomandaris, Emurlahn, Galayn Lord, Gamelon, Hood's Path, Kaschan, Korlat, Meanas, Rashan, Serc, Silanah, Tennes.


Roles players are encouraged to start thinking about their actions.

[Kaschan]

Liosan, on Jan 20 2009, 10:47 AM, said:

I have a meeting soon, but i will make a case on serc then, in brief they seem to be pushing suspicion around the place and discussing innocent roles and forming strategies that roled innocents should follow on day 1 which is almost as bad as saying "if i die tonight".

remove vote

vote serc

I also got the distinct impression they were protecting players with timely accusations, i need to find the specific posts again. I will be back in hopefully half an hour to an hour with a short case on serc to back up my vote.

I've had a funny feeling about Serc after reading as well, mainly because of pushing for the witch to use the BP tonight, which struck me as odd, as it would virtually be pointless tonight.

vote Serc

I'm not sure though, so we'll see how he reacts.

[Ruse]

Rather interested to see this serc case.
He does seem to jump out of the page when he posts sometimes.

[Kaschan]

Ruse, you should probably sign in as invisible.