[Ruse]

D'riss, on Jan 28 2009, 03:07 PM, said:

Ruse, on Jan 28 2009, 01:53 PM, said:

sigh...like i said....he must be a symp.
We dont need to kill symps...we want there masters.
So for now i am willing to ignore mockra.

OK, if he's merely a symp we can just ignore him for now and go after bigger fish. I thought my case against him was pretty weak but it seems to have been the straw that broke the camel's back, and he panicked into a fake reveal. Cool

However, If I'm still alive tomorrow you'll have to lynch me because I would have been recruited.

Just for confimation, I very nearly used the BP to save Kess. However, I'd convinced myself (through admittedly dodgy logic) that all was not well with him. If I'd have used the BP firstly I'd have difficulty letting you all know without revealing and secondly others may have wasted a lynch on him on the assumption he'd been recruited.

I actually used it on the night that fell over the weekend. Quite a few players had said they would not be around so it would have been an ideal time for a few scum to force a lynch. Still not sure I made the right decision, but hey ho, this is my first attempt at Mafia and its all a bit bloody overwhelming

And now, I go for my final meal....

edit: for unwanted smiley

shoulda said you still got the BP.
Mighta saved 1 or 2 nights

[Mockra]

huh, lol
so, there were two witches

likewise, I was considering using th eprotection on nigth 2 (when Kess died)
If you look back, I even asked the psychic to take a look at Kess, because I intended to make sure he lived. later, however, I realized that it may not be the best idea, b/c the witch's power is best to be saved for a critical moment if the numbers ever get to threatening a cult victory.

well, I'm glad to know I was wrong then.
so the most cultists that could be out there now are 2 (assuming 3 ot start with and 1 Night 1 recruit, minus fener and GL)
light of this, my reveal may not have been the best move, but I didn't know that at the time.

so it's in all likelyhood still 2:2:8, not 4:2:6 as I feared.

looiking at it that way, you can afford the mistake of lynching me,

[Ruse]

I think from mockras posts and his accusations on people we can perhaps narrow the field of killer suspects down.

Mockra...care to tell us who you think the necro's are?
At least that answer might be an honest one!!

[Mockra]

I'm actually thinking Silanah might be one
based on the assumption that Kas wasn't one ofc.

since, you know, if I've been wrong and everyone else is right, there should be no more Necros...

[Mockra]

Ruse, on Jan 28 2009, 09:14 AM, said:

I think from mockras posts and his accusations on people we can perhaps narrow the field of killer suspects down.

Mockra...care to tell us who you think the necro's are?
At least that answer might be an honest one!!

oh, and I take exception to that. I don't lie in mafia when I'm inno.

[Ruse]

Why on earth would the mods put in two identical roles, completely fucking up any chance of a reveal.
Its in fact detrimental to team inno if there are two identical roles that dont know of each other.

I call bullshit

[D'riss]

@ Ruse, regarding the case against HP.

I've re-read it and it all does hinge on what seems to be a genuine mistake on HP's part. Furthermore, when you consider it was Ano and Mockra who were making the case it has to be ignored imho.

Edit: for spelling

This post has been edited by D'riss: 28 January 2009 - 02:20 PM

[D'riss]

Ruse, on Jan 28 2009, 02:12 PM, said:

shoulda said you still got the BP.
Mighta saved 1 or 2 nights

Doh! Dumb is me! Thats inexperience for you...

[Ruse]

[Hood's Path]

Wow I sign back on and we suddenly have two people claiming to be witches! The first thing that comes to my mind is why would the mods give two people that role. It doesn't seem to make sense. I'm going to go back and read over the roles and then take a look at the past posts of our two supposed witches. Does anyone else think it odd that there would be two witches? I'm particularly interested in Mockra as he was a big defender of Ano. Time for some serious read throughs

Edit for typos

This post has been edited by Hood's Path: 28 January 2009 - 02:26 PM

[Ruse]

D'riss, on Jan 28 2009, 03:20 PM, said:

@ Ruse, regarding the case against HP.

I've re-read it and it all does hinge on what seems to be a genuine mistake on HP's part. Furthermore, when you consider it was Ano and Mockra who were making the case it has to be ignored imho.

Edit: for spelling

I actually wasnt paying attention to who made the case....just that there seemed to be genuinely allot of apparent "Errors".

I myself felt it was just that HP got confused. But wanted to hear what people had to say today.
Only to find that only the 3 of us are around to comment....sigh

[Mockra]

Ruse, on Jan 28 2009, 09:18 AM, said:

Why on earth would the mods put in two identical roles, completely fucking up any chance of a reveal.
Its in fact detrimental to team inno if there are two identical roles that dont know of each other.

I call bullshit

stranger things have happened.
I recall a game where we had 2 pairs of finders, one normal and one insane. both did a find on a godfather-scum (comes up inno on normal find)

so, no, I wouldn't be shocked if there were 2 witches.
alternatively, D'riss COULD be lying, .. but I doubt it

[Hood's Path]

If there were two witches who were unaware of each other and unable to communicate, it could also lead to a doubling up of BP on any given night. It would seem odd that the mods would let that happen as it would be completely wasteful.

Edit for clarity

This post has been edited by Hood's Path: 28 January 2009 - 02:30 PM

[Mockra]

Hood's Path, on Jan 28 2009, 09:25 AM, said:

Wow I sign back on and we suddenly have two people claiming to be witches! The first thing that comes to my mind is why would the mods give two people that role. It doesn't seem to make sense. I'm going to go back and read over the roles and then take a look at the past posts of our two supposed witches. Does anyone else think it odd that there would be two witches? I'm particularly interested in Mockra as he was a big defender of Ano. Time for some serious read throughs

Edit for typos

my post number 1868 explains all of my thinking and the logic behind it.
besides, if you're still thinking i'm cult, please step back and think

Kas is accused of being cul then lynched.
Ano comes on, tells everyone how stupid it was. gets accused of being in a cult, gets lynched for it.
then I come on, say how stupid THAT was. so are now all gonna go "ZOMG, another cultist!"?

no offence, but how stupid do you think cult ppl would ahve to be to speak up one each day to give you such convenient targets?

[Ruse]

Hood's Path, on Jan 28 2009, 03:25 PM, said:

Wow I sign back on and we suddenly have two people claiming to be witches! The first thing that comes to my mind is why would the mods give two people that role. It doesn't seem to make sense. I'm going to go back and read over the roles and then take a look at the past posts of our two supposed witches. Does anyone else think in odd that there would be two witches? I'm particularly interested in Mockra as he was a big defender of Ano. Time for some serious red throughs

2 witches would be crazy...two of anything is crazy if they dont know about each other
Its just a recipe for disaster.
You just cant do it simply because of the reveal/counter reveal mechanic. It would cause the loss of two inno's for no other reason than that, the mods wouldnt put it in like that. They would be lovers.

[D'riss]

Hood's Path, on Jan 28 2009, 02:30 PM, said:

If there were two witches who were unaware of each other and unable to communicate, it could also lead to a doubling up of BP on any given night. It would seem odd that the mods would let that happen as it would be completely wasteful.

Edit for clarity

Yeah, but from what I understand, Mods can be sadistic sods

Personally, I very much doubt there are two, this is supposed to be a fairly n00b friendly game...

Now that Mockra has been exposed I suggest a look at Meanas. I've had a few niggles about him but he's a clever chap and hard to pin down. If I have the time I'm looking into him.

[Mockra]

Hood's Path, on Jan 28 2009, 09:30 AM, said:

If there were two witches who were unaware of each other and unable to communicate, it could also lead to a doubling up of BP on any given night. It would seem odd that the mods would let that happen as it would be completely wasteful.

Edit for clarity

i'm not gonna explain the mods' decisions.
I know what was in my role PM.

but, like I said,if you feel i'm lying, you can always lynch me. like I said, if D'riss isn't lying, you can afford it. ofc the lack of CF would make it useless...

This post has been edited by Mockra: 28 January 2009 - 02:37 PM

[Mockra]

Ruse, on Jan 28 2009, 09:31 AM, said:

Hood's Path, on Jan 28 2009, 03:25 PM, said:

Wow I sign back on and we suddenly have two people claiming to be witches! The first thing that comes to my mind is why would the mods give two people that role. It doesn't seem to make sense. I'm going to go back and read over the roles and then take a look at the past posts of our two supposed witches. Does anyone else think in odd that there would be two witches? I'm particularly interested in Mockra as he was a big defender of Ano. Time for some serious red throughs

2 witches would be crazy...two of anything is crazy if they dont know about each other
Its just a recipe for disaster.
You just cant do it simply because of the reveal/counter reveal mechanic. It would cause the loss of two inno's for no other reason than that, the mods wouldnt put it in like that. They would be lovers.

there's been precedent.
I've put 2 independent finders in a game before, as well. not lovers, just a finder by themselves.
unfortunately one was killed on night 1, so they never got to have a finder battle,

so I disagree it could have been done, I simply doubt they expected tha the witch would decide to reveal...

[Mockra]

D'riss, on Jan 28 2009, 09:33 AM, said:

Hood's Path, on Jan 28 2009, 02:30 PM, said:

If there were two witches who were unaware of each other and unable to communicate, it could also lead to a doubling up of BP on any given night. It would seem odd that the mods would let that happen as it would be completely wasteful.

Edit for clarity

Yeah, but from what I understand, Mods can be sadistic sods

they usually are, and we love them for it... most of the time,

[Ruse]

Mockra, on Jan 28 2009, 03:26 PM, said:

Ruse, on Jan 28 2009, 09:18 AM, said:

Why on earth would the mods put in two identical roles, completely fucking up any chance of a reveal.
Its in fact detrimental to team inno if there are two identical roles that dont know of each other.

I call bullshit

stranger things have happened.
I recall a game where we had 2 pairs of finders, one normal and one insane. both did a find on a godfather-scum (comes up inno on normal find)

so, no, I wouldn't be shocked if there were 2 witches.
alternatively, D'riss COULD be lying, .. but I doubt it

2 pairs of finders that were DIFFERENT...duhhh