[Mockra]

right, since Rashan has mentioned the whole "unde the radar"...

there's someone I've meant to take a look at for a while now, because he's been flying solidly under MY radar.
now that I have actually taken a look at his posts, I'm fairly certain that HP may be our second psycho

he has played the entire game very unconfrontationally, agreeing with people's cases, present on all the major trains (except for Serc). he has repeatedly told people that they have made nice cases, but never made an attempt to make one himself.

what bothers me the most, is that he was one of the first people to lead the charge on Kas on day 3, but he used a VERY odd argument to do so...
here's the quote

Hood's Path, on Jan 23 2009, 01:54 PM, said:

Kaschan, on Jan 23 2009, 12:45 PM, said:

Hood's Path, on Jan 23 2009, 06:42 PM, said:

I've read through your defence and I still see no reason for us to think Kesso was lying to us. You keep claiming he had nothing on you, but there must have been something making him suspicious enough to give him that gut feeling. Otherwise he could have just said that he believed what Emu was saying about Fenner but saw nothing in your actions that would indicate you were guilty. He clearly didn't think you were inno, he just says that he has less to go on as far as you're concerned. My vote stands.

Man, what? My point was not that he was lying to us (the bloody CF of Fener proved that!), it was that he had no evidence on me other than his gut feeling.

Why do you trust Kessobahn's gut feeling more than mine, or more than Tennes? Or more than anyone's, in fact?

Is it because Emurlahn gave him the name of the person he tried to kill? Because if it is, you have to re-evaluate.

What I'm saying is that you keep implying there was nothing on you other than a gut feeling. That's not actually true. If Kesso thought you were inno and Emu was trying to mislead us he would have stated it. He doesn't say he has nothing to go on as far as you're concerned, just that he has less on you than he did on Fenner. I think you're trying to deflect our attention here and put everything down to a gut feeling. If as you claim your behaviour was not at all suspicious why wouldn't Kesso say you didn't seem like scum and tell us he thought Emu was lying about you?

now, the underlined part's what's bugging me. because Kesso told us that when he asked Emu who were the likely NK targets, Emu allegedly said "Kesso and Fener". I remember Kesso saying "I'm sure he regrets picking my name now" or something like that. Kesso didn't get Kaschan's name from Emu, as HP's post implies. he had his own, separate suspicions about kas, but they were NOT based on what Emu told him.

HP twisting the truth like that to get an alleged necro lynchede wouldn't really matter, but there are still psychos in play. and they are just as interested as innos in getting rid of necros--and they can make stuff up and fabricate things to get people lynched.
While i'm not trying to question the validity of the Kas lynch here, what I see is HP fabricating evidence to lynch a supposed necro. innos don't fake stuff--they make cases with what's there. Scum make stuff up. Therefore, I present to you HP the psycho killer

[Mockra]

empty thread is empty,

[Galain]

Hmmm, it happened again. I was wading through mountains of pages only to find that it's just turned night. I would probably have voted Anomandaris having read the case linking him with Fener, which ties in nicely with my gut feel about him, although I would have been happy to vote Galayn Lord to secure a lynch. No need of that now I guess.

I should probably apologise for being less than contributory, but a mixture of RL and having bitten off a bit more than I could chew mafia-wise have meant things are a little tricky to balance at the moment.

People really like early lynches and not sending in provisionals around here...

[Korlat]

Galain, on Jan 26 2009, 12:39 PM, said:

People really like early lynches and not sending in provisionals around here...

I don't just like it, I love it. I touch my naughty bits just thinking about forcing Night to time out.

[Mockra]

sigh, that's what happens when you make people other than me roled....and make me RI,

anyhow, class time

back in afew hours.

[Hood's Path]

Mockra, on Jan 26 2009, 01:44 PM, said:

right, since Rashan has mentioned the whole "unde the radar"...

there's someone I've meant to take a look at for a while now, because he's been flying solidly under MY radar.
now that I have actually taken a look at his posts, I'm fairly certain that HP may be our second psycho

he has played the entire game very unconfrontationally, agreeing with people's cases, present on all the major trains (except for Serc). he has repeatedly told people that they have made nice cases, but never made an attempt to make one himself.

what bothers me the most, is that he was one of the first people to lead the charge on Kas on day 3, but he used a VERY odd argument to do so...
here's the quote

Hood's Path, on Jan 23 2009, 01:54 PM, said:

Kaschan, on Jan 23 2009, 12:45 PM, said:

Hood's Path, on Jan 23 2009, 06:42 PM, said:

I've read through your defence and I still see no reason for us to think Kesso was lying to us. You keep claiming he had nothing on you, but there must have been something making him suspicious enough to give him that gut feeling. Otherwise he could have just said that he believed what Emu was saying about Fenner but saw nothing in your actions that would indicate you were guilty. He clearly didn't think you were inno, he just says that he has less to go on as far as you're concerned. My vote stands.

Man, what? My point was not that he was lying to us (the bloody CF of Fener proved that!), it was that he had no evidence on me other than his gut feeling.

Why do you trust Kessobahn's gut feeling more than mine, or more than Tennes? Or more than anyone's, in fact?

Is it because Emurlahn gave him the name of the person he tried to kill? Because if it is, you have to re-evaluate.

What I'm saying is that you keep implying there was nothing on you other than a gut feeling. That's not actually true. If Kesso thought you were inno and Emu was trying to mislead us he would have stated it. He doesn't say he has nothing to go on as far as you're concerned, just that he has less on you than he did on Fenner. I think you're trying to deflect our attention here and put everything down to a gut feeling. If as you claim your behaviour was not at all suspicious why wouldn't Kesso say you didn't seem like scum and tell us he thought Emu was lying about you?

now, the underlined part's what's bugging me. because Kesso told us that when he asked Emu who were the likely NK targets, Emu allegedly said "Kesso and Fener". I remember Kesso saying "I'm sure he regrets picking my name now" or something like that. Kesso didn't get Kaschan's name from Emu, as HP's post implies. he had his own, separate suspicions about kas, but they were NOT based on what Emu told him.

HP twisting the truth like that to get an alleged necro lynchede wouldn't really matter, but there are still psychos in play. and they are just as interested as innos in getting rid of necros--and they can make stuff up and fabricate things to get people lynched.
While i'm not trying to question the validity of the Kas lynch here, what I see is HP fabricating evidence to lynch a supposed necro. innos don't fake stuff--they make cases with what's there. Scum make stuff up. Therefore, I present to you HP the psycho killer

You're making much more of that one line then I ever intended. At the time of that post Kaschan was making a bunch of circular arguments based on us going off of a gut feeling. I was simply pointing out that if Kesso felt Emurhlan was lying about Kaschan and trying to direct undue attention on him he could have stated that he didn't think Kaschan was guilty. I wasn't making anything up I was just pointing that out. If Kesso felt Kaschan was 100% inno he would have stated so, but he didn't. He felt that we should look at Kaschan and felt he was in partenership with Fenner. I still stand behind my vote for Kaschan and I think you're really reaching here in trying to make a case against me. I was just trying to point out the circular nature of Kaschan's argument. He wasn't saying very much in his defence and refused to answer direct questions.

Edited for clarity

This post has been edited by Hood's Path: 26 January 2009 - 08:53 PM

[Korlat]

Tennes should have been modkilled some time in the past twenty minutes.

[Meanas]

Korlat, on Jan 26 2009, 08:56 PM, said:

Tennes should have been modkilled some time in the past twenty minutes.

Based off of 24 or 36 hours?

[Korlat]

Meanas, on Jan 26 2009, 12:58 PM, said:

Korlat, on Jan 26 2009, 08:56 PM, said:

Tennes should have been modkilled some time in the past twenty minutes.

Based off of 24 or 36 hours?

It's 24hrs. of non-freeze time for a modkill, automatic.

[Meanas]

Hood's Path, on Jan 26 2009, 08:50 PM, said:

Mockra, on Jan 26 2009, 01:44 PM, said:

right, since Rashan has mentioned the whole "unde the radar"...

there's someone I've meant to take a look at for a while now, because he's been flying solidly under MY radar.
now that I have actually taken a look at his posts, I'm fairly certain that HP may be our second psycho

he has played the entire game very unconfrontationally, agreeing with people's cases, present on all the major trains (except for Serc). he has repeatedly told people that they have made nice cases, but never made an attempt to make one himself.

what bothers me the most, is that he was one of the first people to lead the charge on Kas on day 3, but he used a VERY odd argument to do so...
here's the quote

Hood's Path, on Jan 23 2009, 01:54 PM, said:

Kaschan, on Jan 23 2009, 12:45 PM, said:

Hood's Path, on Jan 23 2009, 06:42 PM, said:

I've read through your defence and I still see no reason for us to think Kesso was lying to us. You keep claiming he had nothing on you, but there must have been something making him suspicious enough to give him that gut feeling. Otherwise he could have just said that he believed what Emu was saying about Fenner but saw nothing in your actions that would indicate you were guilty. He clearly didn't think you were inno, he just says that he has less to go on as far as you're concerned. My vote stands.

Man, what? My point was not that he was lying to us (the bloody CF of Fener proved that!), it was that he had no evidence on me other than his gut feeling.

Why do you trust Kessobahn's gut feeling more than mine, or more than Tennes? Or more than anyone's, in fact?

Is it because Emurlahn gave him the name of the person he tried to kill? Because if it is, you have to re-evaluate.

What I'm saying is that you keep implying there was nothing on you other than a gut feeling. That's not actually true. If Kesso thought you were inno and Emu was trying to mislead us he would have stated it. He doesn't say he has nothing to go on as far as you're concerned, just that he has less on you than he did on Fenner. I think you're trying to deflect our attention here and put everything down to a gut feeling. If as you claim your behaviour was not at all suspicious why wouldn't Kesso say you didn't seem like scum and tell us he thought Emu was lying about you?

now, the underlined part's what's bugging me. because Kesso told us that when he asked Emu who were the likely NK targets, Emu allegedly said "Kesso and Fener". I remember Kesso saying "I'm sure he regrets picking my name now" or something like that. Kesso didn't get Kaschan's name from Emu, as HP's post implies. he had his own, separate suspicions about kas, but they were NOT based on what Emu told him.

HP twisting the truth like that to get an alleged necro lynchede wouldn't really matter, but there are still psychos in play. and they are just as interested as innos in getting rid of necros--and they can make stuff up and fabricate things to get people lynched.
While i'm not trying to question the validity of the Kas lynch here, what I see is HP fabricating evidence to lynch a supposed necro. innos don't fake stuff--they make cases with what's there. Scum make stuff up. Therefore, I present to you HP the psycho killer

You're making much more of that one line then I ever intended. At the time of that post Kaschan was making a bunch of circular arguments based on us going off of a gut feeling. I was simply pointing out that if Kesso felt Emurhlan was lying about Kaschan and trying to direct undue attention on him he could have stated that he didn't think Kaschan was guilty. I wasn't making anything up I was just pointing that out. If Kesso felt Kaschan was 100% inno he would have stated so, but he didn't. He felt that we should look at Kaschan and felt he was in partenership with Fenner. I still stand behind my vote for Kaschan and I think you're really reaching here in trying to make a case against me. I was just trying to point out the circular nature of Kaschan's argument. He wasn't saying very much in his defence and refused to answer direct questions.

Edited for clarity

I just want to point out that according to Kesso Emurhaln didn't say anything about Kaschan. According to Kesso Emurhaln pointed the finger at Kesso and Fener. Kesso at no point said that Emurhaln pointed the finger at Kaschan.

[Meanas]

Korlat, on Jan 26 2009, 09:01 PM, said:

Meanas, on Jan 26 2009, 12:58 PM, said:

Korlat, on Jan 26 2009, 08:56 PM, said:

Tennes should have been modkilled some time in the past twenty minutes.

Based off of 24 or 36 hours?

It's 24hrs. of non-freeze time for a modkill, automatic.

Well good. I hope they take him out, I would rather we didn't have to waste a lynch.

[Anomandaris]

It's a 36 hour timer for modkill - the issue arose on Day 1 with Gamelon and PS stated that the 24 hours listed in the rules was something they forgot to change. So we've got a little while yet before Tennes bites it from inactivity...

EDIT: Just to add: see posts 517-519 for clarification.

This post has been edited by Anomandaris: 26 January 2009 - 09:26 PM

[Korlat]

Anomandaris, on Jan 26 2009, 01:24 PM, said:

It's a 36 hour timer for modkill - the issue arose on Day 1 with Gamelon and PS stated that the 24 hours listed in the rules was something they forgot to change. So we've got a little while yet before Tennes bites it from inactivity...

I think he's definitely going to stroll in just in time to avoid the modkill.

[Meanas]

Well the first time was enough for me to want to lynch him. The second

[Korlat]

So ... uh, who wants to spam?

How about ... everyone who checks in before Night ends, tell us about whatever you're drinking. Difficulty: If you say you aren't drinking, you're lying. We know. We have ways of knowing.

Me, I'm drinking "UC Davis Centennial Celebration Oktoberfest Beer," which is a mild ... well, I'm not sure what it is. Like a real mild porter, leaning towards Heffeweizen, though not as sweet. And yes, UC Davis brews beer - they have Viticulture Department that branches out (not just a recent thing, either - they've been at it since 1880). I only wish I'd known about it when I started going to school there twelve years ago ...

[Silanah]

Its 11:34 am
I am not drinking

[Path-Shaper]

I'm drinking a nice glass of Ardbeg Renaissance, which might be the best whisky vailable for less than 200-300$ dollars..

.. and stop lying Silanah. I know you. I know what goes on in that sick head of yours

[Silanah]

Pfffffft fine...
Not much alcohol in the house...
Just put together some lemonade and Galliano because im bored.
Happy? Peer pressure sucks

[Path-Shaper]

Silanah, on Jan 26 2009, 11:42 PM, said:

Pfffffft fine...
Not much alcohol in the house...
Just put together some lemonade and Galliano because im bored.
Happy? Peer pressure sucks

that's my boy. now excuse me while I go yell at someone in SH

[Path-Shaper]

Silanah, on Jan 26 2009, 11:42 PM, said:

Pfffffft fine...
Not much alcohol in the house...
Just put together some lemonade and Galliano because im bored.
Happy? Peer pressure sucks

and not much alcohol? What kind of place do you live in?