[Kaschan]

Ampelas, on Jan 21 2009, 07:28 PM, said:

And thanks Rashan, play does seem to be getting better. I was impressed with how quickly this game got serious.

Actually, I don't think the level of spam has anything to do with new players, or even the quality of play, it's to do with which players are on together at a certain time.

I do wish that the first 15 pages of day one had a bit more content to them, though.

[Ampelas]

Shadow, on Jan 21 2009, 09:24 PM, said:

Wow- caught up I now hate the Illiad, Thyr and Ruse

Unfortunately I think we have a classic inno pissing contest. Fine, it seems over. good.

The HP case, I thought was really good yesterday, even today it rings a bit true. He middle of the roaded it yesterday and has been straight defensive from what I can recall today.

@HP who are some of your suspects. why?

Tennes and GL, and Silanah are pretty worthless at this point. I get a bored RI vibe from Tennes and Sil. RI is a role people! Make waves, throw around your opinion! Your job is to get killed instead of the roled inno's. Have fun with it. I know I do. GL seems to make a bit of an attempt to play today but hasn't said much. in fact

vote Gaylan Lord

Until he starts contributing more. We really don't want to start taking players like this to end game. They are a mystery and unknown that really hurt the team, or they are killers (see silencer/korlat ). I feel its better to lynch them now when we have a numbers advantage, rather than vote off the vocal players who at least bring rope to hang themselves with later down the line.

@GL who are your suspects. Why?

Someone brought up Galain. I am going to reread him. His early jump onto Serc, followed by the removal could be a distancing move that backfired as the train picked up steam. I can't recall lif he ended up revoting, but I don't think so.

Kasch- starting to play more, but seems to be a bit wishy washy- I'll try to do a reread today if I have time.

Korlat has me stumped. I really don't see the case on him. I also, plan for contingencies when lynches happen. If X happens I will do Y. If Z happens I will do JA. I'm not closing the door on it, but at this point I don't think I would support a Korlat lynch. Make of that what you will.

Finally- I think we have to assume there is a recruit running around. With this many ppl we have to assume 2-3 Psychos and with only 1 dead, it's probable. I'd like to think the vig/vigs wouldn't have used their shot night 1... but people get paraniod they will get NK'd and do crazy things.

Ok, gonna reread Galain and Kasch.

EDIT Spelling

Helpful Shadow is helpful. Again I for one completely forgot that Silanah is playing, and the only reason I remember Tennes is cos people keep bringing him up as a low-poster. So yeah, would definitely like some thoughts from these guys. Hehe, being RI means you're allowed to go bonkers if you feel the need, something you cant really od if you're roled.

[Path-Shaper]

Shadow, on Jan 21 2009, 07:24 PM, said:

If X happens I will do Y. If Z happens I will do JA.

*prays for X*

[Ampelas]

Kaschan, on Jan 21 2009, 09:31 PM, said:

Ampelas, on Jan 21 2009, 07:28 PM, said:

And thanks Rashan, play does seem to be getting better. I was impressed with how quickly this game got serious.

Actually, I don't think the level of spam has anything to do with new players, or even the quality of play, it's to do with which players are on together at a certain time.

I do wish that the first 15 pages of day one had a bit more content to them, though.

I thought play was getting serious bout 150 posts in, which is pretty good, considering there's been games that only started getting serious 20+ hours into the game. Doesnt have anything to do with new/old players, just with people getting into the serious groove nice and early.

[Fener]

Ampelas, on Jan 21 2009, 02:36 PM, said:

Kaschan, on Jan 21 2009, 09:31 PM, said:

Ampelas, on Jan 21 2009, 07:28 PM, said:

And thanks Rashan, play does seem to be getting better. I was impressed with how quickly this game got serious.

Actually, I don't think the level of spam has anything to do with new players, or even the quality of play, it's to do with which players are on together at a certain time.

I do wish that the first 15 pages of day one had a bit more content to them, though.

I thought play was getting serious bout 150 posts in, which is pretty good, considering there's been games that only started getting serious 20+ hours into the game. Doesnt have anything to do with new/old players, just with people getting into the serious groove nice and early.

I was quite shocked by it actually, people were saying I was guilty because I had mentioned going to school, and it was code, and pretty soon I wasn't sure if it was all jokes or if it was half serious. And then when I GOT to school, prepared my spam and discovered that there were serious accusations floating by? Well, blow me down I almost cried. This is quite a remarkable day and I applaud the maturity that is seeping in here.

[Hood's Path]

Shadow, on Jan 21 2009, 11:24 AM, said:

Wow- caught up I now hate the Illiad, Thyr and Ruse

Unfortunately I think we have a classic inno pissing contest. Fine, it seems over. good.

The HP case, I thought was really good yesterday, even today it rings a bit true. He middle of the roaded it yesterday and has been straight defensive from what I can recall today.

@HP who are some of your suspects. why?

To be honest at the moment no one is really jumping out at me. There aren't any cases I would consider very strong. I'm going to go back and ook into the Ruse, Thyrllan argument. There was alot being thrown back and forth there, it could be less than just a differing of opinions. In an effort to be a little less "middle of the road" I'm going to reserve judgement until I am more sure.

As to me being defensive today I probably am. I didn't think Thyrllan's case on D'riss and I was very strong in the first place. I also found it weird that it came as late as it did when there was very little chance of derailing the train against Serc. I've tried to explain my actions several times now, but alas to little avail.

[Meanas]

Ok as I was going through looking at various people who were on the Serc train. Now while Silanah wasn't on the train (turns out he missed it although he thought that he was on it) He still bares looking into. Mainly because he doesn't have hardly any posts or content. I did leave a few of his one line posts out.

Silanah, on Jan 19 2009, 08:21 PM, said:

Hello just checking in
Went to bed before the forums were back up so I missed out on posting in the first few pages.
Catching up now.

First posts and he checks in. No big deal lots of people did that on day one myself included.

Silanah, on Jan 19 2009, 09:47 PM, said:

Why is the thread dead when I come online

Second post checking in again. Seems like he has a bad timezone.

Silanah, on Jan 20 2009, 10:11 AM, said:

Now everyone is coming online. Really annoying living in this time zone. You all come online when I am going to sleep, haven't been able to post much today anyway considering i have been busy, gnight.

Complains about his time zone (giving himself a convenint excuse as to why he can't participate). Since it is still day one not a big deal.

Silanah, on Jan 20 2009, 09:54 PM, said:

Hello, just catching up
Sorry for my low posting over this day... I think this might be my 5th post :S
Had quite a few RL issues I had to deal with so I will be able to post alot more tomorrow

First post that is more then a sentence. Promises more for today.

Silanah, on Jan 20 2009, 10:35 PM, said:

Finished up reading
Im going to have to vote for Serc since he is the most liable lynch for today which is alot better than no lynch.
Liosan did he some good points and some that were meh but it is the strongest case to go on for day 1.
I would much rather lynch Thyrllan though considering he is trying to derail this lynch quite strongly.
The one thing I am concerned about is that people think that it is symping but it might be a twin trying not to get their twin lynched.

Vote Serc

Comes on to attempt to hammer Serc. No content and his only reason for voting for Serc is so to get a lynch. No comment no nothing. Throws a possible out for Serc being innocent and an explination on why Thyrllan was trying to derail the train. But still goes ahead and votes.

Silanah, on Jan 20 2009, 10:58 PM, said:

Well it seems there are Executioner twins on that train

Silanah, on Jan 21 2009, 02:02 AM, said:

Now is the time for spam! Quite ordinary for dead thread to be dead at this time. We shall spam til someone dies of exhaustion!!!

Silanah, on Jan 21 2009, 11:06 AM, said:

Hmmmm.. a Psychopath dead on day 1 is a very good sign
My biggest concern right now is that the necromancers had a lucky guess on a recruitment of a Psychopath's kill.
Sucks to be going to bed now... see you all in several hours

That is almost all of his posts. As you can see there really isn't very much there. But the fact that he came on and was willing to hammer without participating in any discussion and having posted absolutely no content in the entire game so far makes me want to force him to participate. I don't need to remind people that this has been a tactic that scum have used in the past. Cause by now I doubt that there isn't a tactic that scum haven't used.

Vote Silanah

A side note this was actually suppose to be finished and posted 45 minutes earlier but work got in the way. I appoligize if someone else has already made a case. I am to busy to go and look right now.

[Meanas]

Ampelas, on Jan 21 2009, 08:33 PM, said:

Shadow, on Jan 21 2009, 09:24 PM, said:

Wow- caught up I now hate the Illiad, Thyr and Ruse

Unfortunately I think we have a classic inno pissing contest. Fine, it seems over. good.

The HP case, I thought was really good yesterday, even today it rings a bit true. He middle of the roaded it yesterday and has been straight defensive from what I can recall today.

@HP who are some of your suspects. why?

Tennes and GL, and Silanah are pretty worthless at this point. I get a bored RI vibe from Tennes and Sil. RI is a role people! Make waves, throw around your opinion! Your job is to get killed instead of the roled inno's. Have fun with it. I know I do. GL seems to make a bit of an attempt to play today but hasn't said much. in fact

vote Gaylan Lord

Until he starts contributing more. We really don't want to start taking players like this to end game. They are a mystery and unknown that really hurt the team, or they are killers (see silencer/korlat ). I feel its better to lynch them now when we have a numbers advantage, rather than vote off the vocal players who at least bring rope to hang themselves with later down the line.

@GL who are your suspects. Why?

Someone brought up Galain. I am going to reread him. His early jump onto Serc, followed by the removal could be a distancing move that backfired as the train picked up steam. I can't recall lif he ended up revoting, but I don't think so.

Kasch- starting to play more, but seems to be a bit wishy washy- I'll try to do a reread today if I have time.

Korlat has me stumped. I really don't see the case on him. I also, plan for contingencies when lynches happen. If X happens I will do Y. If Z happens I will do JA. I'm not closing the door on it, but at this point I don't think I would support a Korlat lynch. Make of that what you will.

Finally- I think we have to assume there is a recruit running around. With this many ppl we have to assume 2-3 Psychos and with only 1 dead, it's probable. I'd like to think the vig/vigs wouldn't have used their shot night 1... but people get paraniod they will get NK'd and do crazy things.

Ok, gonna reread Galain and Kasch.

EDIT Spelling

Helpful Shadow is helpful. Again I for one completely forgot that Silanah is playing, and the only reason I remember Tennes is cos people keep bringing him up as a low-poster. So yeah, would definitely like some thoughts from these guys. Hehe, being RI means you're allowed to go bonkers if you feel the need, something you cant really od if you're roled.

Oh that isn't true. Dibs does it fairly often when regardless if he is rolled or not. Then there is JA, bent, venge...yadayada
Truely insane players don't let a thing like roles get in the way of going bonkers.

[Meanas]

Kaschan, on Jan 21 2009, 08:31 PM, said:

Ampelas, on Jan 21 2009, 07:28 PM, said:

And thanks Rashan, play does seem to be getting better. I was impressed with how quickly this game got serious.

Actually, I don't think the level of spam has anything to do with new players, or even the quality of play, it's to do with which players are on together at a certain time.

I do wish that the first 15 pages of day one had a bit more content to them, though.

Think that is bad go and read day one of the drunken game, or of the insane asylem game. Those were fun day ones. No content at all till sometime in day 2.

[Shadow]

Ok- Did a reread on Kaschan first cause he had the easier last post to find.

After 3 RP posts he gets into the Witch usage talks. He calls out Serc on his day 1 idea. Says its a bad idea.

3 hours later after the Serc train starts up he jumps on stating his reaon is that Serc's idea of usage are scummy. To me this is reasonable and consistent.

Later he defends his Witch ideas some more. Then This:

Kaschan, on Jan 20 2009, 12:34 PM, said:

Ok, just checked. The creature is not a one-shot, which I had assumed at first glance. This does make the necros dangerous, but they don't know who their creature is, so they have to play the odds, I think.

I still think that Liosan's case is still the best lead we have at this point. But I should be around on and off for the next couple of hours, so we'll see.

Maybe its just me, maybe this is just Naive, maybe Kaschan is especially smooth. But this quote happened in the flow of conversation. He seemed to genuinely not know the creatures role. If he was a Necro or the creature himself I doubt he would take the time to post this OR even have that thought cross his mind. Like I said, he couold be really smooth, but I doubt Kaschan is undead. After this he gets in some more undead role speculation. so far, so consistent.

Kaschan, on Jan 20 2009, 01:17 PM, said:

Thyrllan, you seem very intent on diverting attention away from Serc. D'riss or HP, you don't care which.

Calls out Thyr here, and I think its a good call. Thyr really didn't seem to care who we lynched as long as it wasn't Serc.


And more today, he Really Middle of the Roads it on the Korlat case. He takes a look at Mockra and really middle of the roads it on him too, saying there isn't much to go on.

Kaschan, on Jan 21 2009, 11:01 AM, said:

Sigh. We always say we're going to lynch the low posters one day, and we never do. Occasionally that bites us in the ass, because the scum are laying low.

But generally what it means is a couple of players have boring roles and can't be arsed.

So I guess I'm not asking to lynch Tennes or Gaylord... I'd rather they just started playing ffs.

Good luck getting them to play we can only dream


So I guess my synopsis on Kaschan up to this point is that he has stayed fairly consisent I Don't think he is a Necro, he could be a recruit, but I don't see why he would be night killed last night and further why the Necros would assume he would be the NK enough to put him on the list of three. He could be a killer, he was on the Serc train and he hasn't shown much inclination to point fingers and take a stand today yet.

For now I am willing to leave him alone, I think he is more than likely an inno with Killer possibilities.

****Shadow would like to point out that he is in no way PIing or supporting Kaschan in any way. Just putting out there what he saw on his reread so that maybe others can challenge him or glean some information that he didn't****

[Shadow]

@ Meanas

I like the Post on Silanah

remove vote

vote Silanah

I would happily vote off Tennes, GL or Silanah as my personal Philosophy is that they (low posters) are hurting us now, but will hurt us infinatly more later. If Sil shows some gameplay in the future I will reconsider.

[Galain]

Wow. Things have hurt my eyes today. I have a major headache and it hasn't been helped by some of this stuff (Ruse and Thyrllan). Anyway I'll catch up properly tomorrow when I'm feeling a little more up to it.

Laters.

[Rashan]

Bear with me, as I am at work and it may take an hour to gather quotes and comment on them, but I believ I have found scum sign. I'll try to be quick.

[Fener]

Hood's Path, on Jan 21 2009, 02:57 PM, said:

Shadow, on Jan 21 2009, 11:24 AM, said:

Wow- caught up I now hate the Illiad, Thyr and Ruse

Unfortunately I think we have a classic inno pissing contest. Fine, it seems over. good.

The HP case, I thought was really good yesterday, even today it rings a bit true. He middle of the roaded it yesterday and has been straight defensive from what I can recall today.

@HP who are some of your suspects. why?

To be honest at the moment no one is really jumping out at me. There aren't any cases I would consider very strong. I'm going to go back and ook into the Ruse, Thyrllan argument. There was alot being thrown back and forth there, it could be less than just a differing of opinions. In an effort to be a little less "middle of the road" I'm going to reserve judgement until I am more sure.

As to me being defensive today I probably am. I didn't think Thyrllan's case on D'riss and I was very strong in the first place. I also found it weird that it came as late as it did when there was very little chance of derailing the train against Serc. I've tried to explain my actions several times now, but alas to little avail.

Bolded part is my point: Isn't that the definition of middle of the roading?

Shadow, on Jan 21 2009, 03:22 PM, said:

@ Meanas

I like the Post on Silanah

remove vote

vote Silanah

I would happily vote off Tennes, GL or Silanah as my personal Philosophy is that they (low posters) are hurting us now, but will hurt us infinatly more later. If Sil shows some gameplay in the future I will reconsider.

I don't think we need to worry about lynching Silanah. He hasn't been on all day, I don't think I've seen him since before Night. He'll be modkilled soon. If he posts and has no content, then by all means I'll hop on this, but I think if we're out for a low poster then we should be after a subsistence low poster.

[Korlat]

Ampelas, on Jan 21 2009, 11:36 AM, said:

I thought play was getting serious bout 150 posts in, which is pretty good, considering there's been games that only started getting serious 20+ hours into the game. Doesnt have anything to do with new/old players, just with people getting into the serious groove nice and early.

Well, let's not start sucking each other's dicks just yet ...

[Shadow]

OK, off to reread Galain. Back in a bit.

[Meanas]

Fener, on Jan 21 2009, 09:25 PM, said:

Hood's Path, on Jan 21 2009, 02:57 PM, said:

Shadow, on Jan 21 2009, 11:24 AM, said:

Wow- caught up I now hate the Illiad, Thyr and Ruse

Unfortunately I think we have a classic inno pissing contest. Fine, it seems over. good.

The HP case, I thought was really good yesterday, even today it rings a bit true. He middle of the roaded it yesterday and has been straight defensive from what I can recall today.

@HP who are some of your suspects. why?

To be honest at the moment no one is really jumping out at me. There aren't any cases I would consider very strong. I'm going to go back and ook into the Ruse, Thyrllan argument. There was alot being thrown back and forth there, it could be less than just a differing of opinions. In an effort to be a little less "middle of the road" I'm going to reserve judgement until I am more sure.

As to me being defensive today I probably am. I didn't think Thyrllan's case on D'riss and I was very strong in the first place. I also found it weird that it came as late as it did when there was very little chance of derailing the train against Serc. I've tried to explain my actions several times now, but alas to little avail.

Bolded part is my point: Isn't that the definition of middle of the roading?

Shadow, on Jan 21 2009, 03:22 PM, said:

@ Meanas

I like the Post on Silanah

remove vote

vote Silanah

I would happily vote off Tennes, GL or Silanah as my personal Philosophy is that they (low posters) are hurting us now, but will hurt us infinatly more later. If Sil shows some gameplay in the future I will reconsider.

I don't think we need to worry about lynching Silanah. He hasn't been on all day, I don't think I've seen him since before Night. He'll be modkilled soon. If he posts and has no content, then by all means I'll hop on this, but I think if we're out for a low poster then we should be after a subsistence low poster.

Two votes when we need 11 (or nine since there seem to be people with multi vote powers about) are just the beginning of pressure. Plus Sil was on after the morning scene which means that he has only been inactive for a short while. I have every confindence that he will get on and post a one line comment. If he sees some votes then perhaps he will contribute or panic(if scum).

[Meanas]

Korlat, on Jan 21 2009, 09:27 PM, said:

Ampelas, on Jan 21 2009, 11:36 AM, said:

I thought play was getting serious bout 150 posts in, which is pretty good, considering there's been games that only started getting serious 20+ hours into the game. Doesnt have anything to do with new/old players, just with people getting into the serious groove nice and early.

Well, let's not start sucking each other's dicks just yet ...

But it has been such a long time.

[Shadow]

Fener, on Jan 21 2009, 12:25 PM, said:

I don't think we need to worry about lynching Silanah. He hasn't been on all day, I don't think I've seen him since before Night. He'll be modkilled soon. If he posts and has no content, then by all means I'll hop on this, but I think if we're out for a low poster then we should be after a subsistence low poster.

True, Which is why my initial vote was on GL. But I will happily vote off any of these 3. Lord knows we aren't going to get any help from the psychos or creature.

[Shadow]

Korlat, on Jan 21 2009, 12:27 PM, said:

Ampelas, on Jan 21 2009, 11:36 AM, said:

I thought play was getting serious bout 150 posts in, which is pretty good, considering there's been games that only started getting serious 20+ hours into the game. Doesnt have anything to do with new/old players, just with people getting into the serious groove nice and early.

Well, let's not start sucking each other's dicks just yet ...

But Ruse brought a whole bag for everyone!!! you're no fun