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Posted 22 January 2009 - 10:52 AM

Liosan:

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defend kesso much?

if kesso dies

kill silanah

ampelas i believe is roled inno, possibly the witch or a healer (is there a healer)


Tennes' provisional:

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I wanna use my night ability on Korlat. Just to see if something doesn't happen.

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Posted 22 January 2009 - 11:49 AM

So its all looking pretty quiet at the moment. I reckon they'll lynch Kesso today, its a strongish case. He doesn't get a CF on his death so they'll know who he is, Dibs will be delighted.

I'll be around for the next 2 or 3 hours then head to bed and get up early to be around for the last half hour to an hour, depending :)

How close to the lynch are you around for?
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Posted 22 January 2009 - 12:34 PM

I'm around until 1 hour before deadline, assuming deadline is at 10GMT like I think it is.
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Posted 22 January 2009 - 12:37 PM

Ahh I love the way Dibs rolls, his situation is more dire than he realises with Meanas up for the chop, so it could be a good move.

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i am sorely tempted to reveal vig and say i went for fener last night which is why i think kess is defo the necro. no way a killer would come on so ballsy day 2


And Morgy on the Emurlahn answer.. well he knows Fener is Cult, but whats he going to do about it. Nasty on Rashan I thought it wasn't half bad, Bents having a good game so far I thought.

Kesso said:

Emurlahn said:

"I either targeted Fener or Kesso."


heh, well I'm not in the cult, so he must've targeted Fener then. A cute try, though ..

Anyways, I think this almost proves that Fener is a necro. Putting their own names on the list night one strikes me as a somewhat sensible measure if you feel you could be good kill targets, which Fener certainly was.. Hm.. Now, how to make use of this..

And btb, I assume Rashan is new? Cause that was one flimsy case

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Posted 22 January 2009 - 12:48 PM

Ahh Morgy, your really doing so well, the man is on fire, if he comes back with a case Galayn Lord being the Creature I wouldn't be surprised.

Kesso said:

Gavin said:

Rashan is not new, I'm sure you've hurt someone's feelings....



The destroyer of feelings, that is I.

On another note entirely, I'm reading through Fener's post, and if he isn't evil I'll eat my socks. And Lish really did play well I thought.. Too bad DiBs latched onto him like that.. Hm.. Why did DiBs latch onto him like that? His case is obviously an attempt to make a train by making a massive case with no content. DiBs tried to lead the sheep in that direction even though he must surely have known what he was doing.. You know.. Emur and DiBs seem to have been on opposite sides of every discussion they both participated in. DiBs is a high poster, emu a low.. hmm..




And now Ruse on being outed in the Galain code..

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Well done Fener!

His brilliant "find" on Galains code is more than likely going to get me killed tonight or even recruited...


yay

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Posted 22 January 2009 - 01:02 PM

I'm curious why nobody is reacting like Ruse, i.e. asking themselves why the hell Fener would be looking for codes in other player's posts. I mean, who does that besides scum?

And not to mention to put that on thread...
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Posted 22 January 2009 - 01:04 PM

And yes, Morgoth is on fire this game. Imagine if he had been inno vig or something :)
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Posted 22 January 2009 - 01:14 PM

Yeah I know, Fener would be first on my list to vote off today, seriously outing people with a code? Its a bad thing.

Ruse with some just hilarious other codes possible, must be something in the water in south africa that makes him so funny....

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REUS would have been better.

or SURE...

or USER...

hehehehe


Tennes changing his provisional again.

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I would like to change my NA on Rashan instead of Korlat sorry.

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Posted 22 January 2009 - 01:34 PM

Annnnnd here we go! Morgy has revealed and implicated Fener and Kaschan! Thought he might he must have been weighing it up. I reckon people will jump all over Fener like a Rash. Its well worth a Day 2 lynch on him.

Tonight I predict both Witches to protect and hope the Finders do the business on Kaschan. Which would lead us to, a Serial Killing Galayn Lord and 3 members of the killer team still alive.
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Posted 22 January 2009 - 01:57 PM

Morgoth's reaction:

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Medium: Unlike the Psychic, who claim to be able to read the living's mind (as if that could be possible, duh!), you can read the dead's mind. Every time a player dies, the Medium can send him a question, which the dead person has to answer before entering spoiler heaven. Also, as long as a Medium is alive, there will be a CF in the mod's scenes. The CF will show the faction of the dead player.


here goes everything :S

If I'm right about Kaschan and Fener, I must say the creature is doing an excellent job. I have absolutely no idea of whom it could be.

Hopefully, the killers see the value of keeping me alive now. If I get Fener lynched, the creature should realise he needs me alive too. Without me, neither of the evil factions will have much chance of finding the other. .. I hope :)


And Dibs:(titled "well thank fuck for that!")

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my reveal would have looked well fucking dodgy :)

hahahahahah

kill kessobahn - either a necro trying to cover his arse, or the medium, either or is good for me.

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Posted 22 January 2009 - 02:08 PM

Oh man, Galayn Lord just ran right into that didn't he, should have kept quiet there, he needs to cut his losses there.

I think I might Clarify on thread that yes the Necromancers can put themselves in.

And shockingly Galayn Lord with this provisional

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Provisional kill kessobahn
As now everyone has a reason to kill him so he can safely go.


And Morgy now knowing who every single baddie is outside the 2 symps if he can back himself.

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thank god

Ah well, it's great to see dk leaning towards my side. And DiBs too. That should mean I'll be able to get the lynch through..

My snarky comment towards GL didn't have any conviction behind it, but him ignoring it makes me wonder. It might just be a slip, but still.. And he is defending Fener isn't he..


And another Morgy, happy to get DK's support

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*does the dk dance*

Who's the man? dk is!


And more Galayn Lord

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Its my only hope to make people forget about kaschan that I can see. Fener is going to get lynched, I cant see a way round that but if kaschan stays alive we have a chance.

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Posted 22 January 2009 - 02:16 PM

I'm off for around two hours, I hope you can stick around, I think it's about to go fast... :)
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Posted 22 January 2009 - 02:22 PM

Crap, well I need to head off as well to get to bed for the early night just in case it goes wrong. Its already 11:30pm here...

I'll let them know they'll be Modless for a couple hours.
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Posted 22 January 2009 - 03:27 PM

Ok I really gotta go and try and get some sleep, its looking like a lynch pretty soon already but I suppose just in case I should go to bed and get up early, its 12:30am here already anyway...

I've clarified a few things for them. I think they're only 3 away from a lynch at this point, by the time yout get back it'll be close to lynch...
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Posted 22 January 2009 - 03:32 PM

I could see the witch going group bp tonight to protect Kesso. Having a cf is good, if not Kesso is either screwed or the Necros will, if smart, see that as the medium Kesso will be targeted for death and thus recruited.

Also Kesso- I'm not tearing out my hair.
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Posted 22 January 2009 - 04:22 PM

I'm back, catching up with the thread
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Posted 22 January 2009 - 04:46 PM

Smooth back-pedaling from the Creature:

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Im inclined to agree with Ruse here the only way I can see to prove Kesso wrong one way or another is to get a CF on Fener.
Vote Fener
Now I just hope Kesso isnt a symp



Sigh.. there goes that theory :p


Change of prov from the killer:

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kess is gonna be targetted for recruitment till the end.

kill ampelas.


From the Creature:

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Provisional kill kessobahn
As now everyone has a reason to kill him so he can safely go.


I am unsurprised with your choice :)

Its my only hope to make people forget about kaschan that I can see. Fener is going to get lynched, I cant see a way round that but if kaschan stays alive we have a chance.


Sure he still gets 1/6 the number of recruits regardless of how many Necromancers are left.
You can go it alone as well as the lone killer if both Necromancers die. I presume you realised this since you role says you don\'t die if the two necromancers die... but just in case you didn\'t realise it.


Yes but the thing under undead says they win if they have majority and one of the necros is alive. Doesnt this mean I cant win if they both die?


Ahh right sorry maybe needed to be clarified I thought you\'d presume when you didn\'t die you can still win since why would you keep going :p You\'ll win if your in the last two, standard mafia rules there :)
The recruits are the ones in trouble when the Necro\'s die.

So does that mean the recuits all day when the Necromancers die :D oh that could be fun. Last necromancers lynched and about 5 people die :p


Ha 5 people your an optimist the way its going at the moment :) But that is essentially correct yes

Well it may have happened but it seems scum are dropping like flies int his game if we get a fener lynch. What with one killer dieing night one :p and then a necro down. Looks good for the innos, but if the necros both go then we\'ll be left with 2 independant killers by my reckoning and some vig(s) so the numbers should dwindle fast.

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Posted 22 January 2009 - 04:48 PM

More thoughts from Baudin. That Kesso reveal really kicked in into action :)

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Ok time for some randomness. Ok my suspicions at the moment are Ano was recruited last night
Meanas is a psycopath or a symp. Not sure about mockra but he is also a possible symp other than that I dont really know. At the moment I think Ano is drawing the attention off of me as a fener supporter which is good as I probably voted kesso a bit soon but his argument was just too stupid :)

I think Tennes is definitely new as some of those conclusions were a bit strange even by my standards so that could be Tehol (i think shes in this IIRC)

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Posted 22 January 2009 - 04:50 PM

A convo between Dibs and Gavin:

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can the necros target themselves?

also do they find out if their recruitment was a success?

caan you clarify this on thread please



I've clarified the first question, but I won't do the second as thats going a touch too far...



i dont see how it is, they seem to have an awful lot of advantages, we had a group of two without knowing our symps, they seem able to direct their killer at will and protect each other from a night kill while their recruits retain their abilities.

not speaking just as a killer, i think the innos deserve to know as well, or the necros can just walk this home.


Consider the fact that by Day 3 they'd be down to 2 names a night. They can't recruit and protect themselves, they could do one or the other.

This game hasn't gone quite as planned, spoilers are an interesting read. I'm pretty disappointed actually, it looked good balance wise at game start :)



possibly a three man killer team or a block on killers against creature and vice versa would have left the field more balanced and forced the issue with lynching instead. nk's are weird and random, plus i dont fancy my chances as i am the vocal of the two so a good recruitment target. tonight the witch will extend her bp to protect kess i am thinking.

still go for ampelas - i think he is roled

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Posted 22 January 2009 - 04:51 PM

Morgoth will WIFOM the Necromancer:

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All right.. just for some reasoning behind my actions..

Though I found Rashan's case weak for the most part I agree that my 3 suspect list was criminally stupid as must've painted me an obvious necro. I assume that I was not lynched I'd be killed by the killers as the likeliest suspect for a necro..

Now, I will probably be targeted by one or both of the evil sides. I still believe that a weak cf as the one I uphold is neutral in whom it benefits. In fact with finders on only the inno side, the killers and cult will only be able to learn alignments through the cf. without it they'll be more in the dark than the innos. But I guess i'll still be too tempting a target.

At least this way I can be saved by a witch or something. God knows I don't want to join the cult now. We'll see.

Also, my question for Fener is simply this: What is the alt of your partner?

I won't get any information out of him anyways, but if he says Kaschan, Kaschan is his partner. Sneaky psycology :)

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