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Posted 21 January 2009 - 04:22 PM

The provisional on me was random, and probably came like 20 hours into day since we haven't seen Gaylain Lord in a while... if he had returned I might of lived.

EDIT- So does one of our symps become killer like Dibs thought? Also can the Necros revive themselves as many times as possible.

Fener, gah so lucky in changing to protect himself, that's interesting because there wasn't much heat on him.

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 05:39 PM

Damn, a buttload of PMs. Most of them are convos between Fener and Kashan, so I'll just post the latest:


From Fener45 and Kaschan:

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If one of us looks like falling under some pressure, what do you think about revealing the "code" I spotted in Galain's post? I realise it's completely tenuous and will probably lead to nothing more than you or me getting lynched, but it might be better than fake-revealing.

I honestly don't know what would happen if we revealed that code. No lovers in this game. If it were me, I'd probably assume the guy was a symp and try and lynch Ruse, because it was a signal day one and Ruse was not targeted by the creature (i.e. the signaler was not the creature).


I think we should go for it. Since the creature was obviously successful, we know it wasn't Galain trying to signal us. Yeah, bring it up. We can use it to support Korlat Also, you can avoid susicion because you've been off a little while now.


So... you want me to reveal at some point today? Or wait until one of us is under pressure? Just to clear that up.


Reveal? No. Just say that you were rereading the thread and you saw something suspicious that looked like code. It'll sound better coming from you than it would from me, because I'm up front here posting a lot and you're...not so much.


Lol. I didn't mean reveal as in "hey I'm a necro, come and lynch me" I meant reveal the code.

Having thought about it, I think we should wait until one of us is under pressure. Two reasons:

1) It was not Galain's first post

2) Ruse is only 4 letters long, so there's a good chance it's coincidence. And if nothing good comes from the reveal, then the revealer becomes suspect.

If someone says something along the lines of "someone should go do a re-read of Galain" then it becomes
fair game.


I mean Korlat.




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Well, That's a mixed blessing. I'm sorry I changed it up on you, but I was very worried about the way my name had come up in a couple of posts there, so I had to insert myself. Turns out I was right. Maybe I should reveal as the witch...that would be amusing. But if there's a real witch then the whole thing would be fucking ruined. Say like, oh shit *cackle cakle* the BP is gone. I was targeted last night. It was by, whoever, possibly Mockra, after that whole exchange last night, but if I bring that up then we really ARE fucked. Shit. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO! Help me out guys...


Ok, I've just got in and need to read the thread. But... don't reveal unless you absolutely have to - i.e. if someone outs you.

So, that Ruse thing in Galain's post was not a signal to us. Maybe it was nothing, still haven't found a similar thing in Ruse's post.


We should look through people's posts to identify who was signalling Emur. I think its fairly obviously the Creature who killed him, as I think the gravediggers are psychos/innos, and wouldn't use their vigs unless they were positive it would hit an enemy.


I remember someone mentioning Emu yesterday as possible scum, but for the life of me I can't remember who. Go search, let me know what you find :) Still reading up.


I think it was Kess. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he was our creature.


It's possible, though he did come straight out yesterday and say we were the necs. That would take some balls, especially since Liosan now wants him to build a case based on it.

But yeah, see what he says today. Might drop us some hints for tonight.


That's a big reason why I think he's the creature. Notice his reluctance to actually build said case.

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 05:42 PM

Venge is keeping the dirty for SH, very good:

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This is what I didn't post on to Thyrllan. Mostly cause I felt that someone would get their feelings hurt and I would get another bloody warning.

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I see I am a parrat you retard cause I don't like reading all of your bloody shit while you are busy seeing how big your dick is. Here is a clue it is all of 3 and a half inches. Any bigger and you would probably keel over when it went up. :)

:)

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This from Fener about me:

"Think about who you know who plays that way. I admit its suspect, but then again he ALWAYS plays like this."

I must be doing something right as this is my first ever game, anywhere, ever! That's just made my day!!


I thought he was talking about Thyrllan, but who knows
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Posted 21 January 2009 - 05:46 PM

Change of plans from the Creature:

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I would like to change my provisional to Meanas as gut says he could be a psycopath .
At the moment I really cant be bothered in looking for clues so im just gonna kill people randomly :)
Kesso is definitely dieing soon though, if not tonight il get him tomorrow, cant have him come back to the kaschan, fener necro combination but getting him now could see the idea resurrected.


Damn, he's their worst nightmare :)
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Posted 21 January 2009 - 05:47 PM

And Yellows seems he's about to pull a Yellow:

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Okee dokes. Yeah, Ano just came up with reasons to lynch Galain.


God, still reading :) I think think this thread is expanding faster than I can read!

I will post something about it. Fuck the consequences! I've got stuff to do this week anyway, lol.

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 06:03 PM

First- gah Baudin is too good as creature. First lucky on me, for some reason. And now his gut says our symp. Not looking good for us heh.

Also I liked my death scene, I'm glad you guys brought up the Iliad as an attempt to talk about lesbians, which is funny. Hopefully we get a Trojan War game out of that, I'd be willing to mod it with Ment or M45, since they were talking with me.
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Posted 21 January 2009 - 06:06 PM

YellowKashan keeps thinking his Creature is a crafty bugger:

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Okee dokes. Yeah, Ano just came up with reasons to lynch Galain.


God, still reading :) I think think this thread is expanding faster than I can read!

I will post something about it. Fuck the consequences! I've got stuff to do this week anyway, lol.


lol.


Just thought... what if Galain is our creature, and actually left three names in three different posts, to cover his tracks? Fuck, down that road, paranoia lies.

I'm still going ahead with the thing.

Up to about 4pm with the read :)


Yeah, no reason to get so worried about it. We can't do much if it is him, but I'm really convinced that Kesso is on our team.

4pm...time of day?

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 06:13 PM

View PostStalker, on Jan 21 2009, 06:03 PM, said:

First- gah Baudin is too good as creature. First lucky on me, for some reason. And now his gut says our symp. Not looking good for us heh.



Actually, I'm a bit surprised he's so happy with his kill. The Necro's worst enemies are not the killers, on the contrary. Without their night kills, the Necros will have a very tough time winning the game.

He better be careful and go for targets who can't possibly be the other killer (i.e. player who attacked strongly Emur or something) instead of shooting randomly. He's behaving like an inno vig right now, which is bad.
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Posted 21 January 2009 - 06:42 PM

More Necro convos:

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BOLLOCKS!!

There are twins in this game after all (I thought I had better go check), so I can't reveal the code. It will certainly get me lynched.

It did last time :)

So, I guess that Galain and Ruse could be lovers, but I just can't spot the GALAIN in Ruse's post.

Fuck, this still makes me useless. I will be around most of the evening though, so should be able to post a bit.


Whats the big deal with twins?


they can communicate off-thread. A typical way to protect yourself if you are inno with this role is to code each other's names into your posts, to prove you are inno twins.

So if I reveal that code and try and say they're creatures/necs or symp/killer, they'll just reveal as inno twins and I'll get lynched for exposing them.


Hmmm, okay, but how does that role really help? Other than automatically stimulating lynch trains.


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Hmmm, okay, but how does that role really help? Other than automatically stimulating lynch trains.


Well, if you can prove you're inno, then you're safe from a lynch - you can act like a dick, push in all kinds of directions, and not fear drawing too much attention to yourself.

Plus you can discuss tactics off thread.


Yeah. I suppose. Well, I haven't spotted any obvious code in Ruse's initial posts. If it comes down to it one could always make Ruse try and prove that he's Galain's lover, but with out code...

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 06:53 PM

Oh, Yellow, you entertain me to no end:

Kaschan said:

Why am I so obsessed with codes?

View PostRuse, on Jan 19 2009, 12:27 PM, said:

Forum finally working again.
Excellent!

So its usual day one banter i see.
Although a reveal even a joke reveal surely doesnt help us inno's now does it?

Vote Omtose

For pretending to be scum, or he could be double bluffing perhaps and really is scum?
Also seems a tad bit defensive.


I'm fucking sure this has GALAIN in there somewhere. Christ, even the last word of the first sentence is almost an anagram of it :) I've looked at first word last letter, last letter middle word, every nth letter, 7th from end 6th from end 5th from end etc.

I'm starting to wonder if maybe he's used some kind of eta function in there to randomise the order. Am I giving Ruse too much credit? :) Maybe he decided that GA-AIN was close enough?


The thing is I still fail to see what he's trying to achieve here. It's not like he can kill the lovers if he finds them or anything.
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Posted 21 January 2009 - 07:21 PM

Thoughts from the symp:

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Is Liosan still sending whinning posts? I don't see what he is twicking about. Yeah it sucked that Emu got targeted last night. But there was nothing that we could do about it. Other then that he is almost a PI what with his huge case from day one. He posts seeming content and stays out of the way. I do wish that he could give me a hint on who he targeted last night. Perhaps a small case, hmmm I need to go back over his posts since the night and see if he dropped any clues as to who they targeted the night before. That way I could try to get that person lynched and have them come up as a zombie. I wasn't actually criticing the set up when I said that the zombies should have had a winning senerio. I actually like it how you guys have it.... I was mainly trying to post some kind of content and keep suspicion off of myself. Now to check out Liosans posts and see if he left me any clues as to the person they targeted last night.

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 07:44 PM

Tehol Beddict:

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Hey, since your new I was just wondering how your finding things so far?
Any questions? Comments? Anything that you want clarified?


Hey!

To be honest I'm not really enjoying it that much so far. It's only day two, so I'll give it more time and hopefully I'll start enjoying it a bit more. I guess people are a bit more agressive than I though they would be and I'm really floundering with things. Every time I post or take action of some kind it seems to be a scum thing to do or a noob thing to do! It's just difficult, I'm at the point of being afraid to do anything right now! I'm having a bit of a problem figuring out some of the abbreviations and slang. Is there somewhere I could find a reference for some of them? That would really be helpful for me!

Thanks


Hmm, I hope she'll get into it and start enjoying herself.
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Posted 21 January 2009 - 08:41 PM

Vengeance:

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Ok so I made a low poster case. I have gone over liosans post looking for clues to whom they might have targeted last night. The only person that I could come up with was perhaps thyrllan. But after that pissing match he had earlier with Ruse I don't want to touch him. A bloody short case or a vote on the person who he targeted would do fucking wonders. If he made a small case on last nights target then voted for him. I could drive that case get the fucker lynched have him come up as a zombie and then VPI liosan. Sigh.... Also grief (fener) should be ashamed that he has let Mental (thyrllan) jump way up in the posting count like that. :snigger:

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Posted 21 January 2009 - 08:42 PM

OK, I'm off.

Gavin, all yours. Everything is smooth, nobody is close from a modkill.
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Posted 22 January 2009 - 12:01 AM

View PostRashan, on Jan 21 2009, 06:41 PM, said:

View PostSilanah, on Jan 21 2009, 06:35 PM, said:

Well I wouldn't think it was any of your business but if you must know, one of my cats died so I had some shit i had to sort out and couldn't really be fucked posting.


2 points

1. Sorry about your cat
2. I think he was asking why in the last 48 hours or so you haven't been on. Not why in the last 24. Although, I can understand how bad a loss an animal death could be. Mafia is still more important. Hell, JA watched his dog suffocate on a bone and was too busy playing mafia to pull the thing out of its mouth. He's a cruel bastard is JA.

That last was a joke. In case you didn't get it, but truly, sorry for your loss.


I had to put this in. Pure funny by Bent heh. Sorry about the cat though.

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Posted 22 January 2009 - 04:40 AM

Alrighty various PM's that have come in.

Fener45 happy with how things are going:

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Big thanks to Shadow there, nice playing Kasch.


And here is poor possibly dead Meanas whose doing a fine job symping, yet somehow Galayn Lord plans to kill him for being a psycho. I don't get it, Galayn Lord is playing one strange game.

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Well I have bullied 3 bloody voters onto Silanah. Liosan doesn't look to be in any danger. Of course neither did Emu. Bloody hell.


Some sensible stuff by Dibs, Kesso is a good target.

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a lynch happens - and kess is lynched. nk ampelas

if someone other than kess dies, take him out.



Omtose now, not digging the Thyr/Ruse thing, which I thought was quite amusing myself :) Each to their own..

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Cool, scum down day 1.
The most eventful thing since then has been the discussion of an Iliad game - that sounds like REAL fun stuff - I love the Illiad - had been thinking of an Odysseus Returns To Ithaca game before, as that's an even better theme and easier to realize than a whole bunch of heroes and gods going rampant, but Rome sounded like a much more fun game to run.

The pissing contest between Thyr and Ruse basically has destroyed a wish to post and start stuff up - I had the fucking day off, for christ's sake, and I read all that moronic shit, and then got depressed and put on a movie instead of stirring up play some more. Bah.

So, what will I do now?

I'm going to sit out day 2. I've usually got a very bad case of the day 2 syndrome, so it might actually be an improvement, but most of it is forced, as I've got no wish to post tonight, have a course tomorrow at work, and day's going to be somewhat over when I return... so I'll reserve going ape-shit crazy for day 3... if I even want to do that.

Good thing is though that I'm completely off the radar - hopefully, people start noticing that only after day 2.


And Vengy again on the revealed code, ironic considering Yellow was the one who found the "code" :)

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If that is really galains code then that is stupid. Yellow should make a how to correctly see codes and put them into your posts thread/class.

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Posted 22 January 2009 - 06:16 AM

And now Galain on his code being found... see if eveyone used codes like me we'd never have this problem.

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Normally noone finds my codes, but this is the first time someone has found a code in my posts. The only problem is that I didn't put one in. Classic.

This thread is going really quickly at the moment, so I'm barely having time to keep updated with the thread, let alone post in depth cases.

I'm also sitting at two votes, which is fun. Should hopefully keep kills away from me, since I should never be lynched today.

I mean one vote on me is for a 'code' and the other is for not liking to keep inactive players around. Malazan is a bit weird to me sometimes.

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Posted 22 January 2009 - 06:54 AM

View PostRashan, on Jan 21 2009, 06:41 PM, said:

View PostSilanah, on Jan 21 2009, 06:35 PM, said:

Well I wouldn't think it was any of your business but if you must know, one of my cats died so I had some shit i had to sort out and couldn't really be fucked posting.


2 points

1. Sorry about your cat
2. I think he was asking why in the last 48 hours or so you haven't been on. Not why in the last 24. Although, I can understand how bad a loss an animal death could be. Mafia is still more important. Hell, JA watched his dog suffocate on a bone and was too busy playing mafia to pull the thing out of its mouth. He's a cruel bastard is JA.

That last was a joke. In case you didn't get it, but truly, sorry for your loss.


Oh, dear... :)
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Posted 22 January 2009 - 09:28 AM

Poor dktorode:

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Very hungover.

Not happy.

Need coffee

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Posted 22 January 2009 - 09:57 AM

Dibs sees Kesso as a Necromancer:

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View PostSilanah, on Jan 21 2009, 11:08 PM, said:

View PostMeanas, on Jan 21 2009, 05:28 PM, said:

View PostSilanah, on Jan 21 2009, 11:07 PM, said:

Hello, just catching up on the last few pages :)


I just want to make sure that people notice what time Silanah posted to see if he posts again anytime soon. I would but I really have to go and study.


Took me nearly an hour to read about 7 pages or so.
Time for me to flail my arms around for you having not much of a case on me from me not posting much. Ive had some rl issues to deal with and I said I would post more today which is what I am planning to do. Its not my fault I am in a different time zone from others, it just gives me a disadvantage.

As for cases so far, Ruse and Thy might have had their pissing fight a while back but them both seem to be innocent in my eyes. The people I am keeping tabs on are Liosan for not much reason other than pushing an innocent lynch and Tennes for posting not much either.


I don't mind people keeping tabs on me i would be worried if you were not, but is making a case is illegal now? Because this is the third post where i have been named a suspect for no other reason than making a day 1 case on a cf inno. Frankly it is starting to piss me off, because going by your rationale none of us would be able to ever make a case.

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View PostRashan, on Jan 21 2009, 12:53 PM, said:

View PostKessobahn, on Jan 20 2009, 01:11 PM, said:

View PostLiosan, on Jan 20 2009, 04:39 PM, said:

Sorry for the lack of posts today but I am getting really slammed in work.

I am quite nervous by how quickly the train has grown though. That is eight votes and serc hasn't had a chance to respond to any of the points made against him. I believe we still have quite a long time left today, but as i am unsure if i will be on later i am leaving my vote where it is. Could someone who will be on closer to the deadline and has voted remove temporarily? Or at least can i urge patience until Serc speaks and is given a chance to address the points i made.


I like how you distance yourself from the lynch train you created. This is about the sneakiest way to try to dodge blame if Serc comes up innocent and I do not like it one bit. You're not on the top of my list yet (mainly because I try my best to avoid meta), but you've climbed quite far in just that little piece of yours.

and my list, for those who wonder:
Emurlahn
Omtose
Fener

... Which I guess warrants a change in votes.

Emurlahn


ANd finally our little Creature is proud of himself, note he never brings up the fact that the creature was the one who killed Emur.

So I say, You are signaling your necro masters, not sure if its Ruse or Thyr, although I am leaning towards Thyr right now. Anyway, thats my case, alot of spam mixed in with some questionable posts, while staying out of sight. Not the best case ever, but I believe it has merit.



wow... this is .... crazy. He just so happened to leave the amount of names that the Necro's get to choose each night. If he comes up undead.... that is a Major slip up.



just so happens to name two of the nk targets and ours lives. oh kessobahn you are dying tonight if not today, now wheres his fucking partner ??

tiem to push push push

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