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The Avowed and the T'lan Imass

#21 User is offline   Ain't_It_Just_ 

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Posted 10 January 2009 - 01:01 AM

They do, because in GotM Hood's servant took the form of a dead Tiste Andii for a bit. Unless that's a GotMism, it's proof.
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Posted 10 January 2009 - 01:11 AM

I thought that the Edur souls vanish off to somewhere else as it is mentioned in MT. Only Andii spirits are around, yes? Further, I think Andii spirits might have stayed because of MD's turned back.
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Posted 10 January 2009 - 01:12 AM

I stated this before: does this mean that they will take the trouble to dress the body and have a funeral?
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Posted 10 January 2009 - 01:15 AM

Why wouldn't they. It is considered an honor, and has nothing to do with whether or not the soul goes back to piece of Emurlahn or into oblivion.
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Posted 10 January 2009 - 01:16 AM

I was talking about the Andii...

But speaking of the Edur, do you think they will feel MD's acceptance of the Andii and might (in a tteny-tiny way) feel it themselves?
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Posted 10 January 2009 - 01:19 AM

 Ain't_It_Just_, on Jan 9 2009, 08:16 PM, said:

I was talking about the Andii...

But speaking of the Edur, do you think they will feel MD's acceptance of the Andii and might (in a tteny-tiny way) feel it themselves?


Clarify what you mean with the Andii about "dressing them"... The Andii just leave their fallen behind.

Re MD's acceptance: Not really. They aren't affected by the happenings of Liosan, so I doubt MD's turn-around will have much affect on them.
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Posted 10 January 2009 - 01:21 AM

That's what I'm SAYING: Now that MD has welcomed her children back, will they clean up and clothe the corpse in nice clothes and bury them? Before TtH, they didn't do it.
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Posted 10 January 2009 - 01:25 AM

No idea. The Andii seem by far the most jaded of the Tiste, but that is probably a response to MD's back turning. Don't think it really matters in the end.
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Posted 11 January 2009 - 11:49 AM

They might think it does.
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Posted 11 January 2009 - 02:15 PM

I'm with AIJ. Rake had like a full blown funeral when he died. I reckon they'll pay more attention now that they're actually confident there is something for them in the "afterlife" i.e. MD's embrace.
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Posted 11 January 2009 - 02:20 PM

Rake is not exactly your garden variety Andii. He was interned by his friend Brood, who comes from a different culture.

Rake was an ascendant and even in death there is power in his flesh. Creatures and wizards would have wanted a piece of that body.

That's why Brood cealed the tomb with wards.
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Posted 11 January 2009 - 02:30 PM

That's true. Although I believe that now MD has returned they'll change their attitude to it all. I mean, all those nostalgic reminiscences of Kharkanas were quite an indication on how MD's abandonment left them so bereft of purpose, and any interest in living. Now they have something to live for, I guess.
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Posted 11 January 2009 - 02:52 PM

Doesn't have to change anything. Their souls travel to MD. Their body is just an empty shell then.

The real reason to why they should have burrial traditions is the fear of someone binding the soul, stealing the body, etc.
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