The MBOTF scene that made you gasp, then pause the longest.

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The MBOTF scene that made you gasp, then pause the longest.

#21 caladanbrood

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Posted 21 September 2005 - 04:18 PM

Itkovian's final scene, personally. More so than Brukhalian's

O xein', angellein Lakedaimoniois hoti têde; keimetha tois keinon rhémasi peithomenoi.

#22 Cause

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Posted 21 September 2005 - 05:22 PM

I understood that brukhalian was walking into the trap because without his death their was no betrayal to punish. It made no sense to me but thats what I read.

#23 Enaglio

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Posted 23 September 2005 - 09:39 PM

This didn't make me gasp so much as pause and think about it.
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"Monok Ochem paused, then cocked its head. 'Trull Senegar, you have not yet begun your tale, yet you already weep'
The Tiste Edur studied the bonecaster for a long moment, as the tears ran down his gaunt cheeks. 'I weep, Monok Ochem, because he(Onrack) cannot."
Just thinking about not being cut off from that side of life for all eternity is a very disturing thing for me. This passage is also the one that connvinced me that Trull was one of the deepest characters that I've read about in a long time. All too often fantasy characters are of the same cloth. Very few seem to be able to do what Trull can. Which is, most heroic character want to die for an idea or cause, but Trull lives on to fight and to do what is right at great personal and cultural cost. I am very interested to see how his story line plays out.

#24 garden_rake

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Posted 23 September 2005 - 10:21 PM

agreed, erikson's writing of trull is amazing. i may even say he's my favourite character of the books so far.

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Posted 23 September 2005 - 10:41 PM

yea trull, and, at least for me, brys were both excellant characters because they were so...well...simple, but they considered everything. they didnt just do it, they thought about it, and reading through their thoughts was incredible.

#26 Enaglio

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Posted 23 September 2005 - 11:11 PM

I personally wouldn't call Brys or Trull simple. I think that they are moral. I supose in the world today that it is much easier to just follow along with what the majority say and think ( ie. I live in the Good ole US of A and right now I am very ashamed of my country for the way we are handling pretty much everything that we touch. But there are plenty of people here who think that what we are doing to the Iraqis, the environment, and I'm pretty sure little puppies is justified and right.) i think that Trull and Brys both show a moral strength that is beyond such considerations. Either being standing up to your people, who you love fiercely and unconditionally, or protecting your king and country while trying to balance your familial ties as with Brys. But then it is eay to admire people who stand up for their beliefs.
I'm really not trying to be confrontational. Sorry if I am.

#27 Trotts

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Posted 24 September 2005 - 12:24 AM

lol, theres confrontation and theres discussion. forums are for discussion

the odds of everyone agreeing on everything are very slim, and in that scenario a forum would be very boring.
simple wasent really the best word, but rather (excepting their weapon skills) trull is JUST an edur, and brys is JUST a letharii (in terms of thoughts/opinions)

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Posted 24 September 2005 - 01:56 AM

GoTM:
At the time I first read GoTM everything about SE's world was so damn cool!

The entire sequence starting with Kalam and QB going over the rooftops and ending with QB talking to the Demon Pearl
The conversations between Onos T'oolan and Lorn
Raest and his battle with Silanah etc.
Anomander Rake

DG:

The butterflies and Sormo Enath
The betrayal and death of Coltaine *tear*
Kalam vs Claw Hands in Malaz city

MoI:

Itkovian, Itkovian, Itkovian *tear*
Brukhalian [sp?] leading his men to ambush *tear*
Death of the Destriant *tear*
Death of Whiskyjack (unexpected, shock and disbelief)
The T'lan Imass' revelation to Envy of a T'lan Imass army being decimated by a human tyrant -- *WOW*
Itkovian *tear*

HoC:
Didn't really have any "WOW" moments in HoC ...

Spoiler

MT:

Spoiler

Lastly, of the many things I'm eagerly awaiting in future books, these have to be pretty close to the top:

A reunion between Silchas Ruin and Anomander Rake
Their discovery of Andarist's death
A confrontation (or ten) between Silchas and/or Rake and Scabandari Bloodeye.
A massive Tiste Battle Royale - Andii vs Edur vs Liosan at the gates of Minas Tirith.

#29 Lather

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Posted 24 September 2005 - 02:17 AM

Coltaine punching Gesler!!!

#30 garden_rake

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Posted 24 September 2005 - 07:20 PM

Killanthir said:

[*]A massive Tiste Battle Royale - Andii vs Edur vs Liosan at the gates of Minas Tirith.
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lol, not sure about the setting there but a tiste royal rumble has pay-per-view written all over it

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Posted 24 September 2005 - 08:10 PM

yes but rake would still win, no question about it

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Posted 24 September 2005 - 08:47 PM

garden_rake said:

lol, not sure about the setting there but a tiste royal rumble has pay-per-view written all over it

unfortunately there aren't enough Andii to really make it even and interesting.

But could you imagine? Rake and Ruin leading the Andii, Scabandari leading the Edur, Osserc leading the Liosan, Dragons filling the sky *drool* ... maybe throw in Menandore, Sukuhl Enkadu, Sheltatha Lore, Envy and Spite, just to add a feminine touch :cool:

And then the winners take on the Jaghut and T'lan Imass in Round 2, with the K'Chain Chemalle and Forkrul Assail waiting in Round 3 :eek3:

OK someone stop me before I wet myself again ...

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Posted 24 September 2005 - 09:23 PM

nice, but one thing, envy isnt tiste is she? nor is spite i dont think. another thing, jaghut and imass would be a walkover for someone like rake or osserc, and so would kerching chemales.... id like to see how a tiste would hold up against an assail tho

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Posted 24 September 2005 - 10:08 PM

Envy isn't Tiste, but being Draconus' daughter, and having had a history with Rake I figured why not.

I think an Imass army would give the Tiste something to think about, especially with Silverfox and a handful of Bonecasters. The Jaghut? Well ... depends on which Jaghut are present

As for the K'chain Che'Malle

Spoiler

#35 Trotts

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Posted 24 September 2005 - 11:07 PM

come on now, an army of tiste andii doesnt mean an army of rakes

the imass, jaghut, and kaychan were all powerful powerful peoples. (besides, the kaychan could just drop in troops with their sky keeps!!!)

theres a very interesting scene in MT, but since i dunno how to put in those spoiler things i wont type it out, hehe. suffice it say that the forkrul assail are cool.

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Posted 25 September 2005 - 09:54 AM

i have read the proogue to mt, um i have been mistaken, i thought this would be one on ones, eg the best of the tiste against best of kaching chemmy etc.... i think in that case the riste would kick arse, but in an all on all, imass would probably beat tiste... if everyone had equal numbers, from what i understand, the kaching chemmy would win

#37 Trotts

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Posted 25 September 2005 - 02:26 PM

well of course the kaychan would win, can anyone guess why? (skykeeps are so cool!!)

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Posted 25 September 2005 - 06:16 PM

Enaglio nailed it for me (i was having a hard time deciding)

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"Monok Ochem paused, then cocked its head. 'Trull Senegar, you have not yet begun your tale, yet you already weep'
The Tiste Edur studied the bonecaster for a long moment, as the tears ran down his gaunt cheeks. 'I weep, Monok Ochem, because he(Onrack) cannot."

THAT did make me gasp. it's amazing how easy it is to become emotionally involved in Erikson's characters! makes it so hard to pick a favorite character or favorite scene.

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Posted 25 September 2005 - 10:33 PM

All the jade giant stuff Heboric was dreaming about.

The book lay on my chest for a good five minutes while my whole outlook of the novels expanded and went in every direction imaginable. I'm still totally dazzled by this.