[Whisperzzzzzzz]

^ that's a dope theory.

[TheRetiredBridgeburner]

QuickTidal, on 10 November 2015 - 06:06 PM, said:

Well since Jenna is leaving the show (She's now gonna be young Queen Victoria dontchaknow), and we know that the Christmas Special is Twelve and River Song (Alex Kingston)...I fully expect Clara to bite it before seasons' end.

That said, the strongest going theory is that Clara is already dead. That as we began the season (and in the prequel webisode) the Doctor already is aware of her death...and that the entirety of S9 so far has been him traveling back along their timeline together and going on fresh adventures with her at points where he was absent in the existing timeline. That this is why the Doctor has largely dropped his posher, be-shirted look and stuck with the drab disheveled hoodie look (and more unkempt hair) and the addition of mid-life crisis stuff like the guitar and the sonic sunglasses. That all of this is a gut response to the fact that the Doctor already knows Clara is dead and during season 9 he's aware of where she's headed...he tried to keep her from going on the ghost/FisherKing adventure at all, there has been multiple dialogue hints:

"Today might be the day […] the day I kill you" ­Missy, The Magician's Apprentice
"Please, save Clara"­ The Doctor, The Magician's Apprentice
"Who's going to tell me that Clara Oswald is really dead?"­ The Doctor, The Witch's Familiar
"Don't go native." ­ The Doctor, Under the Lake
"I'm changing history to save Clara." ­ The Doctor, Before the Flood
"A good death is the best anyone can hope for."­ The Doctor, The Girl Who Died
"One day, the memory of [Clara] will hurt so much I won't be able to breathe," ­ The Doctor , The Girl Who Died
"[Ashildr] might meet someone she can't bear to lose. That happens, I believe." ­ The Doctor , The Girl Who Died
"She'll die on you, y'know."­ Me, The Woman Who Lived
"I'm not going anywhere. " ­ Clara, The Woman Who Lived ( < ----this one is most telling)

And then we can couple that with their interaction in the TARDIS at the end of THE ZYGON INVERSION. I forget the actual dialogue, but the look on Twelves face said it all. Something is awry for SURE.

But yeah the theory says that all this is about Clara being already dead, and the Doctor mid-life crisising through it.

I really like this theory. I mean, I've seen plenty of people complain about the Doctor's mid-life crisis antics, but I've been enjoying it as a bit of a change of pace. That would give it a pretty solid foundation (I think the "memory of Clara Oswald" quote could be very telling in particular!)

[QuickTidal]

That theory is further illustrated in a recent Hypable article.

The comments are worth reading too.

http://www.hypable.c...-clara-is-dead/

[Centzon Totochtin]

Didn't enjoy this latest episode, I don't enjoy this type of story telling n any show, it always seems disjointed and I had absolutely no buy-in unfortunately. I am, really enjoying this season, but this story I did not enjoy at all, not looking forward to the second part at this stage, if there is one, as that was also unclear.

[polishgenius]

There will be a second part but not this season, apparently.

Although there are some thoughts that this is how Clara leaves us.

[QuickTidal]

I thought the Doctor's banter in this ep was much better than it has been for a few eps...but overall the episode was only okay...and the booger monsters....let's face it eye goop sand monsters are booger monsters....were gross and not scary.

[Gorefest]

I must confess the recent Dr Who hasn't managed to pull me in much. I really like Capaldi, but Coleman is just awful in my humble opinion. Worst companion in a long time. On top of that I feel that a lot of the episodes in the past two seasons are a bit jittery, with decent story telling taking a back seat to visual/camera antics and poor editing. There's some really cool ideas, there's some great acting, but they just seem to try and cramp way too much twist and turn into each episode, giving it all a very disjointed and rushed feel. It's all so anticlimactic all the time. When Russel T Davies was in charge I sometimes felt that he didn't know how to finish a good story, but with Moffat it feels more as if there is a great story but he isn't a good story teller. Tons of ideas, ambitious arcs and tie-ins, but it has lost the old 'fun-but-scary family viewing from behind the couch' feel. Moffat clearly is a fan and it seems he tries to write for other fans, but in the process he forgets to take the regular viewer along for the ride.

[Gnaw]

polishgenius, on 15 November 2015 - 11:43 AM, said:

There will be a second part but not this season, apparently.

I thought this season was going straight through to Christmas?

[QuickTidal]

Spoiler synopsis for the Series 9 finale...SERIOUS spoilers...like honestly, this will be a game changer, so if you don't want to know, don't click...

Spoiler

‘If you took everything from him, betrayed him, trapped him, and broke both his hearts…how far might the Doctor go?’

‘Returning to Gallifrey, the Doctor faces the Time Lords in a struggle that will take him to the end of time itself.’

YUP. Finally, at long last, two seasons since Eleven found out that Gallifrey did not fall and is lost in a pocket dimension/universe...he finds it again.

[QuickTidal]

Few things.

1. The first part of the finale (Ep 11) will be 55 minutes long, and the second part (Ep12) will be 65 minutes long! And Face the Raven (Ep 10, this weekends ep) will play prologue to the two part finale.

2. Here is the first clip of Ten and Donna form their forthcoming Audio Adventures.

[QuickTidal]

Big potential Spoiler for Saturday's episode

Spoiler

According to Capaldi on Graham Norton, Saturday's ep FACE THE RAVEN is Clara's last episode...and further to that one of the hints about the episode is "Remember '82"...which was the year that Adric died on DW...so the theory is that Clara will be the first NuWho companion to be killed off. I gotta admit...that works for me. No wiping of memories, no alternate worlds, no old timey New York can't visit...just stark reality.

The bonus is that APPARENTLY the next episode may possibly feature

Spoiler

Multiple Doctors.

[Gnaw]

bah.

Less than I had anticipated.

[QuickTidal]

Promo pic from the Christmas special! RIVER!!!!!!

[TheRetiredBridgeburner]

QuickTidal, on 20 November 2015 - 08:13 PM, said:

Big potential Spoiler for Saturday's episode

Spoiler

According to Capaldi on Graham Norton, Saturday's ep FACE THE RAVEN is Clara's last episode...and further to that one of the hints about the episode is "Remember '82"...which was the year that Adric died on DW...so the theory is that Clara will be the first NuWho companion to be killed off. I gotta admit...that works for me. No wiping of memories, no alternate worlds, no old timey New York can't visit...just stark reality.

Really enjoyed Saturday. Nice to see some actual consequence, as it's not something Moffat's particularly good at.

[polishgenius]

That was brilliant. Brilliant.

[Gnaw]

now I have to wait a whole week???????

[TheRetiredBridgeburner]

polishgenius, on 29 November 2015 - 06:45 PM, said:

That was brilliant. Brilliant.

Agreed. Capaldi's wonderful to watch, and it was nice to see him on his own.

[QuickTidal]

Easily the finest ep of Doctor Who this season, start to finish. That was like the kind of episode that Moffat used to write during RTD's tenure.

Next week should be bonkers!

[Tsundoku]

Tres nerdy

http://www.news.com....06fbc02cdccc23d

This post has been edited by Tsundoku: 01 December 2015 - 10:52 AM

[QuickTidal]

New image from the Xmas special, now titled THE HUSBANDS OF RIVER SONG.

Notice...the brand, spankety new SCREWDRIVER!

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