[Fener]

I think that in a game like this without a CF it is probably a inno role.

Omtose are you saying that only a scum would have targeted you.

[Korlat]

Because we probably have guards around with this many roled players, so its quite possible that one of them was guarded on the first night. im more curious about why HP had a different reaction to the tellers than you 2.

[Omtose]

No, it could be either.

Edit: This was @fener.

This post has been edited by Omtose: 23 December 2008 - 08:39 PM

[Omtose]

Korlat, on Dec 23 2008, 08:37 PM, said:

Because we probably have guards around with this many roled players, so its quite possible that one of them was guarded on the first night. im more curious about why HP had a different reaction to the tellers than you 2.

Yeah, I find this odd.
For me it was just, reveal who you used your action on, whereas his seemed more a specific message.
Perhaps they have a choice about what they amke the person say?

[Silanah]

hmm
well, the read-through was uninspiring, and I can see the value in the words of those suggesting a Thyr lynch

re: tellers--i'd assume thay get to tell the person anything, within reasons, and as long as there are no reveals, so a change between days is possible.

[Korlat]

Or perhaps something about him made the message different.

[Omtose]

I doubt we're gonna figure it out properly.

Korlat, Silanah who would you like to lynch, and why?

[Korlat]

Well as I have already said I would very much like to lynch HP because Im almost certain hes scum, theres just something that doesnt quite add up about him, The different force comment, The vote hopping as well like he's just trying to see if anyone will go with the lynch and when noone goes with it he backs off again, then theres the wording in some of the posts just strikes me as odd as well.

[D'riss]

I'm back, need a read through.

[Omtose]

Ive g2g.
Back sometime.

[Silanah]

hmm
right now, with the lack of concrete info, and discounting the WIFOM of the 3 reveals, no one strikes me as particularly scummy--so I think I'd be forced to say Thyr as the lowest common denominator--we are still to hear anything constructive or content-like from him.

[Omtose]

Korlat, on Dec 23 2008, 08:45 PM, said:

Well as I have already said I would very much like to lynch HP because Im almost certain hes scum, theres just something that doesnt quite add up about him, The different force comment, The vote hopping as well like he's just trying to see if anyone will go with the lynch and when noone goes with it he backs off again, then theres the wording in some of the posts just strikes me as odd as well.

Quotes/examples please?
Just so I dont have to trawl through all his posts.

See you all later.

[D'riss]

mostly the talk seems to be about the Tellers. My understanding was that they could change what they want told on a nightly basis, which would explain the difference between the day 2 and day 3 tells.

[Omtose]

Back(probably briefly).
I reckon the no kill suggests 1 killer, 1 symp(probably roled). The killer was possibly guarded?
I cant think of much of a reason for killer to withold.
Although in a game with no CF, setting us a wrong trail early would probably help scum, because if we're looking for connections to someone we think scum who is inno, we oculd well hit more innos.
Anyone got any other ideas as to why no kill?
Guard seems likely.

Edit:
Forgot heal, thats also possible.

This post has been edited by Omtose: 23 December 2008 - 09:06 PM

[Korlat]

This was his post after the tell

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Well, after checking with P-S, I can safely say I was instructed to say that.
Now we have bloody WIFOM...

The underlined bit seems a bit of a strange way to say it to me, it just looks like hes trying to jump in fast and get people to ignore the forced tells
then there's this post

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Im inclined to believe either Kaschan was a vig, or WIFOM because I voted him.
The reason for this being- why get me to say something like that, which looks notably suspicious, unless your trying to get me looking dodgy?
Or don't want to risk yourself being put under suspicion.

Oh, and to Korlat above, I don't like that way of thinking. Im going to comment now, but other than that, I won't say anything, because I don't want to get locked to you, as I don't see you as scum.
-Just because DiBs played as a strong symp doesn't mean everyone who posts cases early on to try and get the game moving is scum,
you know. I already said I posted to get the game moving. I voted Kasch to get him to say something. Its a sad state of affairs when playing aggresively gets you voted, and its why we mainly have quiet players.

which definitely seems to me like hes trying to emphasize the WIFOM nature of the kill and shrug off that he could be tied to it in a very small way.

then

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Right, I'm here again, and christ am I tired.
Shadow died, modkill, no surprise.
I am surprised about the lack of nk though.

Omtose>D'riss>Korlat...

No one died, and for that reason...

Vote D'riss

and a few minutes later

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Interesting that the only kill was a modkill.

For what it is worth, I have been told to post that I targeted Korlat for my night action. Draw what conclusions you will, but the killer has been foiled... for a night anyway.

Wait, you were told? Like I was told that shadow, korlat and omtose are scum?
What does that possibly gain the innos if this role is good.

Remove vote

I had assumed you revealed you used your role.

As I can't see how the teller-people would know that you've used your na on Korlat, I can't vote you with any clean conscience. I'm going over Omtose's posts now.

This vote and subsequent removal doesnt make sense to me, ok placing the vote I can see a reason for but the removal seems to have no justification really and just looks like he wants to throw out a target.

[Omtose]

You seem fairly obessed with HP.

Edit:

Anyone else you suspect?
And why no vote btw, since you've basically been attacking him and no one else.

This post has been edited by Omtose: 23 December 2008 - 09:14 PM

[Korlat]

I voted him in my first post of the day i think, il go back and check in a minute to make sure,
Il go back and take a look now to see who i think could be scum with him, so far Ive been more concerned with trying to get him lynched.

[Korlat]

Yep I definitely did vote for him.

[Omtose]

Ah, k.
My mistake, didnt think you had, and for someone who seems to be trying so hard to get someone lynched, no-vote would obviously be suspicious.
Apologies.

[Omtose]

Can we get a vote count please?

I think we've got like 8 or so hours, and since some people probably wont make it on today, I feel we ought to be trying to get some discussion/trains etc going.
Lynches are good, they give info, and a chance to give scum, and without them, the same questions just come back to haunt you tommorow.