[Tennes]

The more CIs we have, who are RI, the easier it is for the scum to find the roled ones. A lot of the RI reveals, I felt, we're necessary.

[Omtose]

Tennes, on Dec 9 2008, 10:01 AM, said:

Omtose, on Dec 9 2008, 02:56 PM, said:

...proven RI's.
...and the rest of the inno's should consider us VPI.

Its things like this, that really make me distrust people claiming stuff like that.

what the fuck are you on about?

They knew what my PM said....for me thats proof enough.
You can call it bullshit all you want but FOR ME...they are CI's.

[Tennes]

For you, fine. Assume away.ve
Just stop telling me what I should consider people.
I dont know what you're pm said, just mine, so how the fuck should I know? For all I know, you could be killers, after all, the numbers are few enough. And with off thread comms, stuff like that would be easy enough to pull.
I bet I can fucking guess your fucking name, just on everything being said, so bollocks to nothing being revealed.

[Kessobahn]

Hi, PS. I am sober! Also I am working. And bored again, lol, lets see if I can hit 500 posts this game shall we? Kidding!

[Tennes]

Consider the film.
You think without the ghostbusters, the townspeople would win? No fucking way. That was the whole point. Without them, the world would be FUCKED.

Roles are far more useful than unroled people. And if the unroled people go around revealing, it just shows who the roled ones are.

[Tennes]

Im not saying CIs are not useful. CIs are obviously useful, as it means we dont waste a lynch on them. But when they werent about to be lynched anyhow?

[Ruse]

Omtose, on Dec 9 2008, 02:56 PM, said:

I would like to have us look at all the guys who are attempting to sow doubt on the proven RI's.
As far as the Confirmed RI's are concerned we know each other to be CI...and the rest of the inno's should consider us VPI.

You have Tennes, rashan, ruse all trying to discredit us....why?

There is no such thing as certainty in this game. I personally think it is worth questioning the CIs - if the scum cracked it, which on reflection probably wasn't that difficult, then there could quite easily be some hiding amongst those you have dismissed from your radar as CI. They're PI in my book at best, and I will still be looking carefully just in case.


Now, regarding Kaschan - he was flip-flopping on the Gamelon lynch vote...some illogical stuff there, but that's the only real suspicious thing I've seen from him - so I'm going to wait for some defence in that quarter before I place a vote.

I have a meeting to go to, but I'll be back in about an hour and I'll post some more thoughts then.

[Omtose]

Tennes, on Dec 9 2008, 10:42 AM, said:

For you, fine. Assume away.ve
Just stop telling me what I should consider people.
I dont know what you're pm said, just mine, so how the fuck should I know? For all I know, you could be killers, after all, the numbers are few enough. And with off thread comms, stuff like that would be easy enough to pull.
I bet I can fucking guess your fucking name, just on everything being said, so bollocks to nothing being revealed.

Im sure you could guess it NOW...yes.

But at the time there was absolutely no way they could have known.
All they gave was the first letter of there first and last names...

I am not telling you how to play the game, but your continuing efforts to discredit us is very alarming for me. You wont even consider the possibilty that we are truthfull.
So you think the 4 of us can com off thread and decided to make up this master plan to try and CI ourselves?...4 scum all communicating?....bah

You will have to excuse me if i choose not to take what you say at face value.
Since you are clearly not RI...you are roled...either scum or inno. Time will tell.

The way i see it there is probably 4 or 5 scum.
I am pretty confident of 4 RI's

So eventually the group we have to pick from will be so small that we MUST hit scum.
I dont give a flying fuck about roles...i want to win.
Roles arent the be all and end all if we have enough people who know each other to be innocent.

[Omtose]

Tennes, on Dec 9 2008, 10:43 AM, said:

Consider the film.
You think without the ghostbusters, the townspeople would win? No fucking way. That was the whole point. Without them, the world would be FUCKED.

Roles are far more useful than unroled people. And if the unroled people go around revealing, it just shows who the roled ones are.

hahahah

This isnt an actual GHOSTBUSTERS film...
This is mafia...its BASED on a ghostbusters movie. Remember that.

[Tennes]

Im betting schmoe, is your last name.
And its not a guess I made recently. My point being, if I can get it, i reckon scum can aswell.

Thanks for pointing out that im not RI.

And im betting that Gozer at least has some defence, considering that the GBs were pretty much the only thing able to stop her in the film.

Of course I have to consider that you could be truthful. I also reckon it would be easy for scum to hide there.

[Tennes]

So you dont think the GBs would have an advantage?
Yes, its mafia. It is probably possible to lynch the scum. But im betting the GBs could do it far easier.

The alines game was still mafia. Didnt mean that it was any easier to kill the predator than in the films.

[Omtose]

Look i didnt start this whole RI reveal thing...fuck sakes.

But it happened, and i think we have to now use it to the best of our advantage.
You guys just want to discredit us.
Which just gives the killers targets to pic becasue they know we are telling the truth and at the same time You guys are sewing doubt.
This just helps them hide even further.

[Omtose]

Tennes, on Dec 9 2008, 10:56 AM, said:

Im betting schmoe, is your last name.
And its not a guess I made recently. My point being, if I can get it, i reckon scum can aswell.

Thanks for pointing out that im not RI.

And im betting that Gozer at least has some defence, considering that the GBs were pretty much the only thing able to stop her in the film.

Of course I have to consider that you could be truthful. I also reckon it would be easy for scum to hide there.

No shit your betting shmoe is my last name...Fener has already said that i revealed the name....durrrrrr

[Omtose]

Thats why i am the last confirmed RI.

[Tennes]

I dont "just" want to discredit you.
Its just fucking stupid to consider you all CI.
The killers may well know you're telling the truth. I dont.

Yes, we have to make the best of the situation. That doesnt mean trusting everyone making the claim.
Yes, they're going to hide. But we have to look everywhere. Perhaps it would sew less doubt, if we all ignored you, but if even one of you is scum, that gives that one, who guessed the name, a free ride.
I dont want to lynch any of you. Im willing to trust you for now. But ignoring a section of people entirely is a blatantly bad idea.

[Kessobahn]

Tennes, on Dec 9 2008, 10:57 AM, said:

So you dont think the GBs would have an advantage?
Yes, its mafia. It is probably possible to lynch the scum. But im betting the GBs could do it far easier.

The alines game was still mafia. Didnt mean that it was any easier to kill the predator than in the films.

As far as we know, based on the last 2 days the GB's have no special kill abilities, thats not to say they or he rather isn't trying, but so far nothing other than lynches are working.

[Tennes]

You revealed the name? Ah.
Well, for one I haven't seen that, as you may guess im not the most thorough re-reader.
I also had that guess for quite a long time, so im betting I had it before you revealed it.

This post has been edited by Tennes: 09 December 2008 - 04:05 PM

[Omtose]

Vote Tennes

For pretending to guess my last name, instead of just coming out and saying i did reveal it.

[Tennes]

At a guess, the GBs equipment only actually works on ghosts, they're not like vigs, more selective, in that they only kill the people their weapons are designed for.

[Omtose]

Tennes, on Dec 9 2008, 11:04 AM, said:

You revealed the name? Ah.
Well, for one I have seen that, as you may guess im not the most thorough re-reader.
I also had that guess for quite a long time, so im betting I had it before you revealed it.

how did you possibly guess THAT last name?

explain to me how you came by that please, enlighten me.
Show me how you worked it out!