[Benji]

dats bcos tehy wer 2 slo fer him to b bovred wit!!1 lol karsa eats dasesm 4 brekfst!!1

I would provide my own translations, but quite frankly Grief's are better...

Translation:

Karsa found the fight uninteresting, so saw no reason to follow it. Karsa is also a cannibal, which I find amusing.

[Grief]

That just shows karsa is lazy, and would therefore get pwned

[Benji]

Alas, I fear I must now withdraw to the fanboys last resort. A statement so terrifying that to even utter it causes ones ears to melt. A statement so dire that it causes small birds to rise shrieking into the skies. A statement... Er, well you get the point.

Ahem.

lol!!1 ur mum got pwned!!1

Translation:

I hate Karsa and he would get chopped into small pieces by most swordsmen of the series, on account of his uselessness and lack of skill.

[Seras]

hi there! first post!
out of all of them i think Icarium would win, partially cause hes my favourite character.....but it did say he could destroy an Azath (among other things) if hes mad =D

[Grief]

Benji, I completely agree .

Estrayk, welcome to the forum.
Icarium is hard to judge on account of things like his passive magic adding a lot to his power.
It is also mentioned that he injures, rather than kills, the azath, though it is feared that he could possibly kill the deadhouse, in deadhouse gates, that azath was already severely weakened.
He is not the only one to manage such feats, such as in the Return of the Crimson Guard Prologue(spoilered in case you haven't read, if you've not, be warned that these forums are generally open to spoilers of every book):

Spoiler

Osric also destroys an Azath

[HoosierDaddy]

He damaged an Azath. Anyways, as this thread has made relevant the fact that the Azath doesn't have a sword to hit back with.

[Benji]

I can't believe you mis-translated my post

You shall rue this day! I shall return with more non-sensical arguments to help me defend swordsmen who I am unaffiliated with!

[Grief]

Pusts mule still wins

[Seras]

Grief, on Feb 16 2009, 03:15 PM, said:

Benji, I completely agree .

Estrayk, welcome to the forum.
Icarium is hard to judge on account of things like his passive magic adding a lot to his power.
It is also mentioned that he injures, rather than kills, the azath, though it is feared that he could possibly kill the deadhouse, in deadhouse gates, that azath was already severely weakened.
He is not the only one to manage such feats, such as in the Return of the Crimson Guard Prologue(spoilered in case you haven't read, if you've not, be warned that these forums are generally open to spoilers of every book):

Spoiler

Osric also destroys an Azath

whoops! i need to read Deadhouse Gates a few more times X_x, i thought he destroyed the Azath, then i remembered that Gothos is still trapped within it so Icarium must've failed

[Grief]

If I recall correctly its hinted that Gothos stopped him.

[Seras]

Grief, on Feb 16 2009, 03:28 PM, said:

If I recall correctly its hinted that Gothos stopped him.

yea he must have, being the guardian of the Azath and all, i feel kind of sad for him though, Icarium having forgotten about him due to being an amnesiac

This post has been edited by Estrayk: 16 February 2009 - 11:38 PM

[muco]

Bry's is definitly impressive but the way he fought is not unique.

Through out the books, I kind of got the impression that Seguleh almost have the same style of fightinh displayed by Bry's.

The fight in ROTCG where Iron Bars fights a Seguleh is almost similar in description to what Bry's did to Rhulad. And that Seguleh was like 200th rank or something to that effect.

And no...Mok is not as skilled as the 1st. 1st definitly feels Mok can match him some day but I doubt right now he is as good. Brood in his talk with Kallor brings up the 1st on equal terms with Rake and Dassem. Thats just scary considering 1st is the only mortal among the three.

This post has been edited by muco: 17 February 2009 - 09:52 AM

[Lisheo]

We have no evidence suggesting the First being mortal. In fact, I'd bet he's an ascendant.
He has the feel of being long-lived.

[muco]

Not sure 1st is ascendant.

Remember that Brood does not mention 1st by name but just the title. Its the title thats meant to be scary not the pereson behind it.

It means to be 1st you have to be so good as to be talked in the same breadth as Dassem, Rake and Brood.

[Lisheo]

Not necessarily. That's not a very good argument. The First is obviously old, the conversation between K'rul and Envy in MoI suggests he's been around since the Second's disappearance many centuries ago, at least.

[muco]

I don't remember that!!

Is so, he has to be an ascendant.

[Lisheo]

It's only suggested, not actually said. But aye. Also, by the sounds of it, he's probably older than Mok, hence his sending away of him. All in all, the First is an enigma, and something to do with the Tyrant and the Torrud Cabal. As Baruk, leader of the Cabal is ascendant, I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if the first was too.

[muco]

Strange that Seguleh hate magic and has an ascendant ruling them!!

[Hinter]

muco, on Feb 17 2009, 10:30 AM, said:

Strange that Seguleh hate magic and has an ascendant ruling them!!

Well ascendancy doesn't necessarily mean the ascendant is a magic user. Dassem has ascended but we've not seen him use magic as far as I remember. The BBs have ascended and most of them were not mages either.

This post has been edited by Hinter: 17 February 2009 - 10:33 AM

[Lisheo]

"There are many paths to Ascendancy"- Baruk, GotM, to Crone.
Not every mage is an ascendant, and not every ascendant is a mage. It all boils down to personal power. Coltaine was possibly an ascendant, or at least on his way to becoming one. Stormy is an ascendant too.