[Macros]

Lisheo I feel compelled to comment on your finely fashioned sensibilities, that appear to be girly enough to be offended by books.
Man up and just set it down before you get hurt

[Lisheo]

Macros, on Dec 1 2008, 11:47 AM, said:

Lisheo I feel compelled to comment on your finely fashioned sensibilities, that appear to be girly enough to be offended by books.
Man up and just set it down before you get hurt

Hey, I take my fantasy books seriously
Alas, I can never unread the Eragon books now

[Macros]

do you want a tissue to dry those girlesque tears rolling down your cheeks?

[Lisheo]

Macros, on Dec 1 2008, 12:00 PM, said:

do you want a tissue to dry those girlesque tears rolling down your cheeks?

Yes, that would be delightful, darling.

Seriously. You read all the Eragon books and then not cry, because you will realise humanity has no hope

[Macros]

I have, whilst my contempt for paulini grew with every word I read, I forced myself to finsih, took a deep breath, then relaxed again, no tears were forth coming, but then My manliness is enviable.
I see it as, if its that bad, people will realise, if they don't they're idiots and therefore their opinion does not matter.

IN B4 YOU'RE AN IDIOT FOR LIKING RISE!!!!!

[Use Of Weapons]

There's a lot of hate for Feist in this thread. Probably because of his descent into mediocrity. _Magician_ is still a great book, though, and the Empire series, with Janny Wurts, is still excellent -- the best of both authors.

But I still think that _Faerie Tale_ is Feist's best book.

[Macros]

meh, Whilst I appreciate Faerie Tale as a departure from his usal scope and it is a very good book I still think his best book is Honoured Enemy (its a collaberation i suppose, if we're talking his solo work the Prince of the blood would probably be my favourite)
I think most of the hate is because of his recent efforts, with some peopple foolishly startingn with them, One should always go to the start of an authors work in any given universe

[Abyss]

'Faerie Tale'...? Really?

I have great fondness for the first four (three) Riftwar books and the Empire series. I found everything after that readibly mediocre (Prince of the Blood, the lizardmen war except for the last book) to outright awful (The King's Bucaneer very nearly made me vomit blood).


- Abyss, doesn't vomit blood lightly...

[Salt-Man Z]

Meh. I read Magician on my wife's recommendation, and saw nothing to like about it. Of course, at that point I was maybe 23 and my limited exposure to fantasy consisted mostly of LotR, Xanth, a couple of Pern trilogies (thumbs down) and Stephen R. Donaldson (whose work I loved.)

[detritus]

Walker, on Dec 1 2008, 08:37 AM, said:

I would have to say Dragonlance and Eragon both need to be erased and never read by anyone ever again. Raistlin was the only good quality of Dragonlance for me, but even that wasn't enough to save the whole series for me.

Ker-slap! Dragonlance was the first fantasy series I read. I loved it then and I still have a big soft spot for it. I havent read it in 16 years or so, and thats probably best because I dont want it to let me down. BUT still I do love em.

[Fist Gamet]

No no no, my friend, no hate for Feist, not hate. It is likely that many others out there, like me, read Magician a good number of years ago and loved the book. IIRC, Feist spent years writing it and never really planned it to be part of a trilogy and only did so once Magician was published. My problem is that I cannot shake the feeling that he compromised his love of writing and story-telling and inventiveness in order to just sell books, plain old, unoriginal, horrible generic tales that did nothing but harm to the fantasy genre...just my opinion, is all. This perhaps comes from my solid belief that writers should always seek to further their art, to push the boundaries and find new and exciting ways to entertain us. The ancient art of story-telling needs to be preserved! The oldest known written story is a fantasy story! Preserve it and enhance it! Show me something different!

In fairness, it was wrong of me to mention Feist in the same post as Reallybadkind...he remains a step above junk like Barclay and Brooks...all elves must die!

[The Tyrant Lizard]

Indeed. The worst thing about the elves in Brooks and Barclay's books is they're rubbish. They've got none of the attributes of Tolkiens elves, but all of the gayness. There is nothing good about them at all.

[globish rip]

Indeed. The worst thing about the elves in Brooks and Barclay's books is they're rubbish. They've got none of the attributes of Tolkiens elves, but all of the gayness. There is nothing good about them at all.

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[Tamilyrn]

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- Russell Kirkpatrick's trilogy...I forget the name, but the first book was called Across the Face of the World. The first book was literally a bunch of people walking around a lot. No tension, no memorable characters...blah. Mind you, he was a geographer first, so maybe that explains it?

+1 : Absolute drivel.

An honourary mention for Niomi Novak's Temeraire series. So much hype and Peter Jackson bought the film rights but for me it was just a steaming pile of *^%*.

Finally, no rant on shelf wasting volumes would be complete without R. A. Salvatore Drizzt D'Urden books. The first was readable (barely) but from there on in it's just a regurgitation of the same (weak) storyline.

[Macros]

aw, I have a soft spot for the original drizzt trilogy for some reason, I can't bad mouth them

[Stalker]

Yea me too, Macros.

I like Drizzt, maybe because besides Tolkien it was the first actual fantasy I read.

[detritus]

I'm sure Drizzt would be the same way I imagine the Dragonlance books to be, that If I re read them now I would cry at a childhood memory destroyed.

[mocker]

i cant abuse Feist i always liked jimmy the hand etc and along with WOT were the first fantasy books i read years and years ago. soft spot for them both

same goes with the Belgariad, if i read them now i'd weep, but back wen i was a young un i loved em! altho i do agree that the Tamuli has always been shit even back then!

worst series... David Drakes Lord of the Isle's (at least i think that was the name) series. utter poop

[Use Of Weapons]

Yeah, Drizzt rocks! No dissing the dark elf swordmaster with a heart of gold!

[Markymarz]

I was recomended to read The Runespell Trilogy by Jane Welch and it absolutly blows I struggled through the first book and made it half way in the second befre I finaly gave up. I love a ASOIAF by GRRM and I have just started this series by pure luck just picked up Gardens of the moon and I can barly put it down! I am excited that there are already so many boks finished and look forward to the rest as this is my one peeve with ASOIAF I have been waiting for A Dance With Dragons for like 3 years and cant wait till april when I can pick it up unless they move it back again arggggg.