[Shadow]

Liosan, on Nov 24 2008, 05:11 PM, said:

Any questions, you've got about 5 minutes before I go to bed, although I feel ive explained my reasons pretty much as well as I can.

I have one. Why not fake ninja me? well, make that 2, why do you still have a vote on me?

[D'riss]

*prays for vig powers*

I wish I could kill all that claim Mohinder...

[Anomandaris]

Liosan, on Nov 24 2008, 05:05 PM, said:

Mod, you are a nasty nasty man.
Explanation, since you all seem to want one:

Reaction fishing: Yes, I knew it was unlikely he'd admit killer, but it was possible, and reactions are good, they give us info. For example, his wtf are you doing post makes him more likely innocent in my eyes. Now, im pretty useless to my team, so I dont really care if I die, whereas taking someone else off the suspect list, at least mine, is good. And yes, its worked before. See grief getting a reveal in the heroes game, by pretending he'd won.

Wanting him to shut up: He was irritating me.

Not only that, but it provokes others to react, whcih is generally good, as it gets the game moving.

So lynch me. Whatever. Im useless anyway, other than one more vote for team inno, so it was, in my opinion, worth it for the information, and for any information you get from my lynch.

For what's it worth, I know how you feel.

[Liosan]

Shadow:

1. Because I think you'd be less likely to slip up. Also because i think you're a fine lynch, more likely scum, but ano seemed to be becoming a likely lynch.
2. Because I think its possible you're scum, although im not sure who to go for atm.

[Silanah]

Shadow, on Nov 24 2008, 09:02 PM, said:

And why is everyone looking past Sil, I may be short sighted, but in my "case post" I pointed out the extreme difference in play style, jumping on Rash at the first threat, and then pushing the lynch by saying he spammed too much(which Sil did before that post) and got defensive(which Sil did before that post). If I am wrong, I'm wrong, and if Ano isn't a confused inno, I'll be Pust's mule. Of course, I may be a confused inno on the Sil thing, but still, I backed up my case.

So wait aminute, i joke about until someone does something scummy and you are complaining because i jumped on it? Well thats how i play. You keep ignoring my case and telling people i am voting because of the spam which is total horseshit.

Shadow, on Nov 24 2008, 09:05 PM, said:

Anomandaris, on Nov 24 2008, 04:01 PM, said:

BLAH BLAH BLAH

BLAH BLAH BLAH


There's a reason people have already started to wanting to discredit me byt calling me confused and a newbie. I am neither, but I am trouble, and they are worried someone might actually take me seriously.

It never occured to you that a fucking symp might fake symp me to get me lynched? It never occured to you that a symp wouldn't be so obvious as you pointed out? Confused Inno, or scum, one or the other.

This is why i didnt vote for you, dont know where you are getting that i think you are scum, you jumped in to defend rashan when i built a case on him. If i had thought that this was the case, i would add it to my case on rashan that you are defending him. I cant see what people are voting you for when rashan is a better case. My biggest concern with your play is this constant bullshit with saying my case is because rashan is spamming when that is in no way a reason for my vote. I explained numerous times i was voting for him as the first WIFOM user and because he continually called himself a symp.

D'riss, on Nov 24 2008, 09:55 PM, said:

It hink it's safe to say, we are all shocked by Liosan and demand an explanation

untill we get one, don't think we can move much further.

Err, like no chance, we just stop the day because liosan is playing silly beggars? How about no.

As far as the liosan thing goes, i dont know what to say, it could be a way to drag attention away from shadow and rashan, but it seemed designed more to capture anomander in a lie which failed miserably, instead it did something even worse and for that i may switch my vote. Had ano said something about a role i would do my upmost to lynch you, luckily he just seemed shocked by your post. In my view Ano is a PI now, or a very dangerous killer.

Rashan is still my top suspect, but to be perfectly honest i am shocked at the voting today and the seriously weak reasons being bandied about. We have too many players not making cases and dropping votes, and many just reiterating the cases already made. Shadow has dropped the spam, but he and rashan are still posting a hell of a lot. One thing i did notice, was talk of a bet? Apart from one post which you deleted, i cant see rashan speaking about this on thread, i hope you arent lovers, and are killers, because discussing something off thread and then making that sort of slip is worrying bad. That you could be lovers is something i had to check as well, as i thought there was no mention of the role, but it is there. Can you clear this up for me, either of you?

I think the mods should do something about liosan, perhaps block his vote or night action, deliberate attempts to con players is against the spirit of the game, yes we are trying to catch out killers, but resorting to faking a ninja kill is beyond the pale, if ano had of been our healer we would have been utterly screwed by that manouvere.

[Rashan]

I saw and commented on the post before he editted it, Sil.

[Anomandaris]

@ Sil: I actually wouldn't be surprised if this game has lover killers. Right up Morgy's alley.

[Liosan]

Umm, you're pissed because I PI'd someone? K?

Also, people shouldnt be commenting on anything after they think they're dead, and he wasnt meant to go "im a healer, you got me", in fact, I didnt really expect him to go "im a killer, you got me" either, it was just a general reaction thing.

[Silanah]

Liosan, on Nov 24 2008, 10:05 PM, said:

Mod, you are a nasty nasty man.
Explanation, since you all seem to want one:

Reaction fishing: Yes, I knew it was unlikely he'd admit killer, but it was possible, and reactions are good, they give us info. For example, his wtf are you doing post makes him more likely innocent in my eyes. Now, im pretty useless to my team, so I dont really care if I die, whereas taking someone else off the suspect list, at least mine, is good. And yes, its worked before. See grief getting a reveal in the heroes game, by pretending he'd won.

Wanting him to shut up: He was irritating me.

Not only that, but it provokes others to react, whcih is generally good, as it gets the game moving.

So lynch me. Whatever. Im useless anyway, other than one more vote for team inno, so it was, in my opinion, worth it for the information, and for any information you get from my lynch.

Mod. You are so nasty. Meanie.

this attitude stinks to high heaven, most of us are roleless innos and if we all just quit the killers would win. Risking a modkill to PI another player is such bullshit that to hear you come out and say it makes me think you and him worked this out before hand. Really dont like this one bit, and now rashan says you are PI??? bullshit, why an inno would do something so blatantly crazy is puzzling me, that you probably are inno is also fucking me off.

right calmed down now.

remove vote

may come back to rashan, but i need to consider this liosan thing int he morning when i aint in such a bad mood.

[Shadow]

Silanah, on Nov 24 2008, 05:18 PM, said:

One thing i did notice, was talk of a bet? Apart from one post which you deleted, i cant see rashan speaking about this on thread

I made a bet in thread (after Kess came on and said he was playing catch-up). I said, I bet 20 bucks that Kess leaves his vote on me, at the end of his catch-up. Rash said, "no way, it was a joke vote, no way he leaves it on". After 6 or 7 of Kess's posts, I asked Rash if he still wanted to take the bet, (because Kess was saying alot of bad things about my play style etc.) Kess sad no, he wanted to keep his money. Later, Kess caught up, and removed his vote, I would have lost. I re-did the post so Kess wouldn't read that and then change his vote to make me lose the bet. More spam really. As for my case on you, My problem was that you accused Rash of doing things that, up until you accused him, you yourself was guilty of. It seemed, and still seems scummy.

[Silanah]

Rashan, on Nov 24 2008, 10:19 PM, said:

I saw and commented on the post before he editted it, Sil.

cheers, rashan.

[Shadow]

Anomandaris, on Nov 24 2008, 05:23 PM, said:

@ Sil: I actually wouldn't be surprised if this game has lover killers. Right up Morgy's alley.

This is a noob statement- 2 killers always communicate off thread, they share one kill. This is wha Rash was pointing out in his case on you Anno, you say shit like this, yet claim to be experienced.

[Silanah]

Shadow, on Nov 24 2008, 10:25 PM, said:

Silanah, on Nov 24 2008, 05:18 PM, said:

One thing i did notice, was talk of a bet? Apart from one post which you deleted, i cant see rashan speaking about this on thread

I made a bet in thread (after Kess came on and said he was playing catch-up). I said, I bet 20 bucks that Kess leaves his vote on me, at the end of his catch-up. Rash said, "no way, it was a joke vote, no way he leaves it on". After 6 or 7 of Kess's posts, I asked Rash if he still wanted to take the bet, (because Kess was saying alot of bad things about my play style etc.) Kess sad no, he wanted to keep his money. Later, Kess caught up, and removed his vote, I would have lost. I re-did the post so Kess wouldn't read that and then change his vote to make me lose the bet. More spam really. As for my case on you, My problem was that you accused Rash of doing things that, up until you accused him, you yourself was guilty of. It seemed, and still seems scummy.

your still ignoring my case? wtf is up with that? i have explained it over and over and everytime you ignore it. For the blatantly ignorant.

1 - Deliberate use of WIFOM
2 - constantly calling himself a symp.


You quote me where i do these things.

[Rashan]

Silanah, on Nov 24 2008, 10:26 PM, said:

Rashan, on Nov 24 2008, 10:19 PM, said:

I saw and commented on the post before he editted it, Sil.

cheers, rashan.

Not a bother.
What's your opinion on Gamelon?

[D'riss]

Right then
with the Liosan thing out of the way (and I know how you feel,. Silanah. and the fact that he's probably a fellow inno's pissing me off as well). I'm inclined to trust Ano
which brings us back to Shadow with Rash as symp

or could be one of the quieter players (Kaschan, Thyrlan, Fener, or Korlat)

really don't know
bottom line, tons of time left.
I've got the night shift today (lousyy mondays), so i'm gone for the next 5-6 hours.

later, y'all.

EDIT: cross-post with Rashan
forgot Gamelon as one of the quieter players. and Tennes, for that matter.

This post has been edited by D'riss: 24 November 2008 - 10:30 PM

[Shadow]

Silanah, on Nov 24 2008, 05:28 PM, said:

You quote me where i do these things.

brb. I am not trying to ignore your case, but let me show you what I saw before we start a pissing contest. give me a few minutes.

[Liosan]

I dont think fake claiming is risking a modkill, afaik, so im not exactly "quitting", on purpose.
If you lynch me, then you get whatever info from my train, plus anos likely innocent.
Whereas, if we lynched ano, what'd we gain? A bit of info.

Look at it this way:

What harm did my claim do?

[Silanah]

Liosan, on Nov 24 2008, 10:23 PM, said:

Umm, you're pissed because I PI'd someone? K?

Also, people shouldnt be commenting on anything after they think they're dead, and he wasnt meant to go "im a healer, you got me", in fact, I didnt really expect him to go "im a killer, you got me" either, it was just a general reaction thing.

yeah i am pissed off, it was a stupid thing to do and could have cost us a roled inno.

On top of that you could be paired killers, i mean it would be pretty audacious way of PI'ing each other early on but the fact that my symp suspect rashan jumped in near straight away to say it PI'ed you doesnt help. At the end of the day you either tried to trick an inno in the hope of catching him out, or you tricked the rest of us into thinking he is inno.

[Shadow]

Silanah, on Nov 24 2008, 05:01 AM, said:

So shall we be the ambergris peoples front, or the peoples front of ambergris?? Its a very important distinction!

edit - spelling would help

Silanah, on Nov 24 2008, 05:17 AM, said:

Ah, such heated debate, how can i ever hope to decide against such a tide of voices?

Silanah, on Nov 24 2008, 05:18 AM, said:

Rashan, on Nov 24 2008, 10:17 AM, said:

Spelling always helps. tongue.gif Woot woot, Day One... w00t.gif

Truth, you stated the truth, you must be evil!

now i look like a dick smile.gif

Who says woot? oh yes...

Silanah, on Nov 24 2008, 05:21 AM, said:

haha, an amusing acronym wins the debate!

Follow the PAF to victory shock.gif

Silanah, on Nov 24 2008, 05:27 AM, said:

thats an impressive day 1 case, built on phonetics no less... How about, try harder laugh.gif

Silanah, on Nov 24 2008, 05:29 AM, said:

Gamelon, on Nov 24 2008, 10:27 AM, said:

Rashan, on Nov 24 2008, 10:17 AM, said:

Woot woot, Day One... w00t.gif

Rashan, on Nov 24 2008, 10:23 AM, said:

w00t.gif

You know where "Hashshashin" comes from, right? dry.gif

Another phonetics case? Your on Fire!!!

thumbsup.gif

reason 2, saying woot.

reason 3, he was evil in the last game!

Thats the most complete day 1 case of all time. Possibly the worst, but there are three reasons so... wink.gif

Silanah, on Nov 24 2008, 05:43 AM, said:

Rashan, on Nov 24 2008, 10:39 AM, said:

New games are always fun. biggrin.gif
Unless they have predators. Or spam.
Spam is bad.
Very bad.
spam.gif

It took me a few minutes to realise you meant actual predators, i was trying to work out if you meant some abusive players or something. Monday's brain is very slow, like no no go slow go no no.

Silanah, on Nov 24 2008, 06:08 AM, said:

Kessobahn, on Nov 24 2008, 10:46 AM, said:

Spammers and non-posters should be policy lynched.

so we should only allow medium range posters to play? Thats a very conservative attitude. Very right wing.

Silanah, on Nov 24 2008, 06:10 AM, said:

Not very PAF at all... tongue.gif

Silanah, on Nov 24 2008, 06:19 AM, said:

tbh i just wanted to say PAF again, as it is my new favourite word. I just wish there was a classic batman font biggrin.gif that would make it rock to whole new level.

36 hour days, first day, i am going to assume we are all lynchers, yes? There doesn't seem to be a finder role, so CF is the only info we get. Of course i think we should think of something slightly stronger than phonetics, but it was a valiant first attempt. I think as a test of our innocence we all go out and get hammered. Tonight and tomorrow we have to post a lot of stuff and then we look over it and find the killers, it worked last time, so that makes it fool proof!

Silanah, on Nov 24 2008, 07:17 AM, said:

Shadow, on Nov 24 2008, 12:14 PM, said:

Kessobahn, on Nov 24 2008, 07:06 AM, said:

LOL at Shadow. You're asking for it aren't you?


remove vote, vote Shadow

no, I was just wondering who would follow through with their threats. Kess, you did. But Sil and Rash haven't. Oh how the info piles up.

what threats? Oh strawmanning, very dangerous...

Silanah, on Nov 24 2008, 07:22 AM, said:

PAF - Peoples Armbergris Front.

Strawmanning - saying i am not following through on threats, when i havent made any.

Talking out your ass... well it is day 1.

Bolding helps btw.

these are all your posts from the first page...Its all spam and jokes hang on a second, there is more.

[Anomandaris]

Shadow, on Nov 24 2008, 06:27 PM, said:

Anomandaris, on Nov 24 2008, 05:23 PM, said:

@ Sil: I actually wouldn't be surprised if this game has lover killers. Right up Morgy's alley.

This is a noob statement- 2 killers always communicate off thread, they share one kill. This is wha Rash was pointing out in his case on you Anno, you say shit like this, yet claim to be experienced.

Fuck, you're right, that does look noobish.
What can I say, I've played too many high tmdi games as of late, that I've forgot what a regular game is like. :Surprise:

Edit: spelling

This post has been edited by Anomandaris: 24 November 2008 - 10:36 PM