[Silanah]

Liosan, on Nov 24 2008, 10:32 PM, said:

I dont think fake claiming is risking a modkill, afaik, so im not exactly "quitting", on purpose.
If you lynch me, then you get whatever info from my train, plus anos likely innocent.
Whereas, if we lynched ano, what'd we gain? A bit of info.

Look at it this way:

What harm did my claim do?

your missing the point, we wouldnt lynch you because it could give us any info

anyone who votes you now has a perfectly justifiable reason, your traina nd subsequent cf will give us no info and buys the killers a day and night cycle, i dont get how you could miss that.

@rashan - Not sure - had some misgivings earlier but they havent been remarkable in my view. Put pressure on me saying after 12 posts i hadnt posted anything, yet afetr 7 i think they had accused half the people who had posted. Thats all i can remember of them and that was from this morning.

[Liosan]

Ok, im sorry for taking a gamble on the fact I didnt think someone stuid enough to go "before I go, i'll reveal my role, because thats bound to help the innos". Turns out I was right.

Ive no idea what to think about Rashan. Hes just confusing me.

[Liosan]

Ofc my train gives you information.
What is the justifiable reason you speak of?

Ive pissed people off?
Or maybe because im a mastermind killer, who planned it all in advance.

Everyone knows that itd just buy the killers extra time, as you say.
Therefore, whod want it, scum.
Info.

[Rashan]

Gamelon has left his vote on Thyrllan. Now, I dunno, I was just thinking about him there, but why vote for someone quiet and seemingly resonably inoffensive, who's not going to get any more votes? Might as well just state your suspicions and be done with it. So why the vote left there, I wonder.

[Liosan]

Well, im off to bed.
Vote staying, for the reasons I voted in the first place.

[Path-Shaper]

It's day 1. There's 23 hours left of the day.

13 players remain:
Thyrllan, Rashan, Anomandaris, Kaschan, D'riss, Kessobahn, Korlat, Liosan, Gamelon, Shadow, Tennes, Fener, Silanah

7 votes needed to lynch
7 votes needed to go to night

2 vote Shadow - Anomandaris, Liosan
1 vote Rashan - Tennes
1 vote Silanah - Shadow
1 vote Kaschan - Fener
1 vote Thyrllan - Gamelon
1 vote Anomandaris - Kessoban

Players who have not voted:
Thyrllan, Kaschan, Korlat, Rashan, Driss, Silanah

Alt here, going to bed now. Should be back in 8 hours or so. I think Morgy's still around, but you might be modless for a couple of hours so please play nice.

[Shadow]

Shadow, on Nov 24 2008, 08:02 AM, said:

Who are the other 2 anonymous users....Kess and Rash? Sil and Rash? Game and Sil? Is it important? What is the meaning of life?

I ask who is lurking
You respond ( a bit defensively)

Silanah, on Nov 24 2008, 08:14 AM, said:

i just never close my browser window, plus i ain't building a case until the day gets going and everyone has posted at least once. If you want to start a train on me then go ahead. of course i will label you as a scum who is trying to remove inno's early in the game before everyone gets a chance to post.

Rash noticed the defensiveness as well

Rashan, on Nov 24 2008, 08:40 AM, said:

Woot, the thread is alive again.

Sil is jumpy...
Remove vote
Vote Silanah
Because I'm calling your bluff
#Under pressure#

Gamelon did also, and pointed out you where spamming and avoiding putting on pressure

Silanah, on Nov 24 2008, 08:52 AM, said:

Gamelon, on Nov 24 2008, 12:43 PM, said:

Is it me of Silanah has 12/40 posts without a single slight hint of pressure on anyone? I know it's early day 1, but still...



edit: he's even proud of it:

Silanah, on Nov 24 2008, 12:22 PM, said:

Strawmanning - saying i am not following through on threats, when i havent made any.

you answered


dont need to vote to talk about someone, probably would have made sense with a quote

Silanah, on Nov 24 2008, 08:54 AM, said:

Rashan, on Nov 24 2008, 01:40 PM, said:

Woot, the thread is alive again.

Sil is jumpy...
Remove vote
Vote Silanah
Because I'm calling your bluff
#Under pressure#

And you answer Rash


Rashan is scum!

is that what you mean?

Point at Gamelon

Silanah, on Nov 24 2008, 08:55 AM, said:

Gamelon, 7 posts and pressuring people. Symp?

Rash asks why so violent all of a sudden

Rashan, on Nov 24 2008, 08:55 AM, said:

Silanah, on Nov 24 2008, 01:54 PM, said:

Rashan, on Nov 24 2008, 01:40 PM, said:

Woot, the thread is alive again.

Sil is jumpy...
Remove vote
Vote Silanah
Because I'm calling your bluff
#Under pressure#

Rashan is scum!

is that what you mean?

Why all the hate?

Thats page 2, alot of spam, and I am not the only one to notice ou are defensive.

Page 3 explains my case. please wait

[Silanah]

@shadow

good god what are you getting at? you accuse me of voting for rashan because of spam, i have stated numerous times this wasnt the case. Yet here you go again showing i did the same thing ealry on, well boo fucking hoo shadow, you are yet again building a case from nothing. The fact that i didnt post anything meaningful at the start is your case because i made a case like that on rashan, yet you ypourself have pointed out that i jumped on the first thing i saw.

Therefore in making your case you disprove it. I spammed until i saw something i didnt like and then the game effectively begun for me. It isnt my fault i was on before other people, yet like you i posted for fun. if we all waited until something happened before posting, no one would post.

when rashan fell on my radar i pounced. I pounced and you jumped to his defence. Fact is you are saying i am voting for rashan and mistaking my reasons for someone elses. I have stated my reasons and rashans attempt to answer them was even more WIFOM. Your response was to counter case, now if you two get labelled as paired its because you have done it, i never accused you of it, but you have propagagted that view by constantly defending rashan.

I am tired of trying to explain myself to you, you are like a dog with a bone and you are just ignoring what i am saying to suit your own case which is weak as piss btw.

[Liosan]

Damn you.
Im around for a little longer.

[Silanah]

I am not defensive, i am answering your points, do you want me to ignore them?

[Liosan]

Night all, unless this cross-posts.

[Silanah]

Liosan, on Nov 24 2008, 10:40 PM, said:

Ofc my train gives you information.
What is the justifiable reason you speak of?

Ive pissed people off?
Or maybe because im a mastermind killer, who planned it all in advance.

Everyone knows that itd just buy the killers extra time, as you say.
Therefore, whod want it, scum.
Info.

Thats not how i see it, anyone who votes for you can put fake ninja in the reaosn and for day 1 thats more than justifiable imho. If seven people vote for that reason, where do we look for scum?? i am not trying to get at you mate, it just strikes me as such a strange thing to do that i cant see the reaosn.

[Shadow]

Actually it was page 4

on 3 you spam some more

Silanah, on Nov 24 2008, 09:59 AM, said:

Kaschan, on Nov 24 2008, 02:54 PM, said:

Ok I just caught up reading all of your wonderful spam... dry.gif

Here is my suspect list so far

Thyrllan, Rashan, Anomandaris, D'riss, Kessobahn, Korlat, Liosan, Gamelon, Shadow, Tennes, Fener, Silanah


Obviously not myself as I am the definition of goodness

yay! i am last thumbsup.gif

And then you say Rash is doing all ALL ALL of the things you have been doing. And have been called out on.Spamming, joking, and over reacting. SCUMMY PLAY my friend. Thats what I saw and then...after that post, you push, and push and push for Rash to go ahead and admit he's scum. Got the atention off of you, and onto Rash.

Silanah, on Nov 24 2008, 10:21 AM, said:

Anomandaris, on Nov 24 2008, 03:06 PM, said:

vote Shadow

for spamming. And to get things going until everybody is on.

Rashan, on Nov 24 2008, 03:08 PM, said:

Kaschan, on Nov 24 2008, 03:05 PM, said:

Uggg Go away Rash you are masturbating on the good rug. Jesus you are worse the a dog, humping everything in sight.

Yes master, will do.
But why are you belaying your previous orders? tongue.gif

Master... I love you. wub.gif

And Ano, Shadow for spamming!? Really?

surely rashan is the worse for spamming? Constant symp WIFOM as well.

vote rashan

You are trying too hard to appear as a hyper active inno, bored and making jokes. You over react to everything, not even votes, just everything, and your gonna post more in the first morning than most people post in an entire game.

Thats how I see it. So thats why your case is a bad one. You accused Rash of doing what you had been doing up until that point.

[Shadow]

Silanah, on Nov 24 2008, 05:44 PM, said:

@shadow

Blah blah blah


I am tired of trying to explain myself to you, you are like a dog with a bone and you are just ignoring what i am saying to suit your own case which is weak as piss btw.

I asked you to wait. You asked for quotes. I am finished now.

[Silanah]

Shadow, on Nov 24 2008, 10:52 PM, said:

Actually it was page 4

on 3 you spam some more

Silanah, on Nov 24 2008, 09:59 AM, said:

Kaschan, on Nov 24 2008, 02:54 PM, said:

Ok I just caught up reading all of your wonderful spam... dry.gif

Here is my suspect list so far

Thyrllan, Rashan, Anomandaris, D'riss, Kessobahn, Korlat, Liosan, Gamelon, Shadow, Tennes, Fener, Silanah


Obviously not myself as I am the definition of goodness

yay! i am last thumbsup.gif

And then you say Rash is doing all ALL ALL of the things you have been doing. And have been called out on.Spamming, joking, and over reacting. SCUMMY PLAY my friend. Thats what I saw and then...after that post, you push, and push and push for Rash to go ahead and admit he's scum. Got the atention off of you, and onto Rash.

Silanah, on Nov 24 2008, 10:21 AM, said:

Anomandaris, on Nov 24 2008, 03:06 PM, said:

vote Shadow

for spamming. And to get things going until everybody is on.

Rashan, on Nov 24 2008, 03:08 PM, said:

Kaschan, on Nov 24 2008, 03:05 PM, said:

Uggg Go away Rash you are masturbating on the good rug. Jesus you are worse the a dog, humping everything in sight.

Yes master, will do.
But why are you belaying your previous orders? tongue.gif

Master... I love you. wub.gif

And Ano, Shadow for spamming!? Really?

surely rashan is the worse for spamming? Constant symp WIFOM as well.

vote rashan

You are trying too hard to appear as a hyper active inno, bored and making jokes. You over react to everything, not even votes, just everything, and your gonna post more in the first morning than most people post in an entire game.

Thats how I see it. So thats why your case is a bad one. You accused Rash of doing what you had been doing up until that point.

look at my underlined bit


try quoting the bit before the vote - yet again you ignore my case, you are relentless in your defence of rashan.

vote rashan

cause rashan doesnt defend shadow, and shadow is just making up a bullshit case to pull attnetion away from rashan.

even when making your case you ignore me and point at someothing to suit your case. Constant symp WIFOM. Evertime i make a case on rashan its these two points, but no you say i am voting for his spamming.

maybe i should quote both of us up until that point shadow, cause lets be honest you said fucking nothing of worth until rashan was attacked by me and then you were like his guardian angel.

[Silanah]

Shadow, on Nov 24 2008, 10:54 PM, said:

Silanah, on Nov 24 2008, 05:44 PM, said:

@shadow

Blah blah blah


I am tired of trying to explain myself to you, you are like a dog with a bone and you are just ignoring what i am saying to suit your own case which is weak as piss btw.

I asked you to wait. You asked for quotes. I am finished now.

responded to each of your points, sir, in fact to do so i just referenced the posts you quoted, maybe if you read them instead of just picking out what suits you you could have a worthwhile case.

[Fener]

I have a few minutes here,

Thoughts: Though not something I would do, I would tend to think Liosan's gambit did PI him and Anomander (Sil make of that what you will) Ano had a definate screw you attitude and I don't think Liosan, is killer...because he is really walking on Modkill territory there. As a killer he wouldn't need to take that kind of a gamble that early. The problem I see is, you set up 2 easy kills for the Killers the next 2 nights. All NK's are WIFOM but I feel I can pull some info from them, and the Killers can be sure they aren't hitting their symp. Lame.

More thoughts: It seems that the board is leaning towards taking out the more aggressive louder players most every game I have ever played in has had at least 1 killer in the quiet, low post, low content, area. ie Kasch, Thry, Tennes. I am more in favor of putting pressure on them and forcing them to play. ppl that play killer in that manner are more liable to slip up when forced to talk than say...grief/lish who have diarrhea of the fingers and post so much that its a chore just to wade through all the crap so that you can get a case, and they are used to talking so less likely to slip.

Of the loud talkers, Shadow comes off most as scum, the begging to remove votes thing really got to me, as well as Liosan's earlier point about not liking being fake symped. Just my 2 cents. I will keep my vote on Kasch in the hopes that we might pressure some non talkers, but if it was an hour to lynch and we needed info I would switch to shadow.

[Rashan]

Silanah, on Nov 24 2008, 10:57 PM, said:

Shadow, on Nov 24 2008, 10:52 PM, said:

Actually it was page 4

on 3 you spam some more

Silanah, on Nov 24 2008, 09:59 AM, said:

Kaschan, on Nov 24 2008, 02:54 PM, said:

Ok I just caught up reading all of your wonderful spam... dry.gif

Here is my suspect list so far

Thyrllan, Rashan, Anomandaris, D'riss, Kessobahn, Korlat, Liosan, Gamelon, Shadow, Tennes, Fener, Silanah


Obviously not myself as I am the definition of goodness

yay! i am last thumbsup.gif

And then you say Rash is doing all ALL ALL of the things you have been doing. And have been called out on.Spamming, joking, and over reacting. SCUMMY PLAY my friend. Thats what I saw and then...after that post, you push, and push and push for Rash to go ahead and admit he's scum. Got the atention off of you, and onto Rash.

Silanah, on Nov 24 2008, 10:21 AM, said:

Anomandaris, on Nov 24 2008, 03:06 PM, said:

vote Shadow

for spamming. And to get things going until everybody is on.

Rashan, on Nov 24 2008, 03:08 PM, said:

Kaschan, on Nov 24 2008, 03:05 PM, said:

Uggg Go away Rash you are masturbating on the good rug. Jesus you are worse the a dog, humping everything in sight.

Yes master, will do.
But why are you belaying your previous orders? tongue.gif

Master... I love you. wub.gif

And Ano, Shadow for spamming!? Really?

surely rashan is the worse for spamming? Constant symp WIFOM as well.

vote rashan

You are trying too hard to appear as a hyper active inno, bored and making jokes. You over react to everything, not even votes, just everything, and your gonna post more in the first morning than most people post in an entire game.

Thats how I see it. So thats why your case is a bad one. You accused Rash of doing what you had been doing up until that point.

look at my underlined bit


try quoting the bit before the vote - yet again you ignore my case, you are relentless in your defence of rashan.

vote rashan

cause rashan doesnt defend shadow, and shadow is just making up a bullshit case to pull attnetion away from rashan.

even when making your case you ignore me and point at someothing to suit your case. Constant symp WIFOM. Evertime i make a case on rashan its these two points, but no you say i am voting for his spamming.

maybe i should quote both of us up until that point shadow, cause lets be honest you said fucking nothing of worth until rashan was attacked by me and then you were like his guardian angel.

Actually I spent a good deal of time defending Shadow from Anomanderis. Shadow doesn't need defending atm, either. And I'm not bothering to defend myself because at this point you see one of us as a symp and one of us as a killer, and knowing you as an inno, nothing's going to change your mind until you get a lynch.

[Tennes]

I think I'm going to Remove Vote for the time being, because I want to take some time to mull over the new evidence. Not sure where Shadow is going with Silanah, exactly, but I'm open to anything being put forward. I'll be away for a bit, but when I get back I'm going to try and examine a few more people's posts.

[Shadow]

What I am trying to say, is Rash may be fake symping me, if he is, well done.

But you called him scum for- You are trying too hard to appear as a hyper active inno (which you did, joking and playing around, and not being a bi offensive as Game pointed out)


, bored and making jokes.(Which you were doing as well)

You over react to everything, not even votes, just everything, (you did this and it was pointed out by Rash and myself)

and your gonna post more in the first morning than most people post in an entire game. (This is your accusation of spamming, which is what you did up until this point_)