[D'riss]

Liosan, on Nov 24 2008, 05:42 PM, said:

Shadow, on Nov 24 2008, 06:55 PM, said:

Rash, I appreciate the defense, but I don't think its needed at this time. Kess has on a joke vote, and Mandy has no case on me at all. I do however think your plight is more serious, as Sil has a more serious case on you (weak, but at least serious) and you might want to adress his and the other(can't remember who) vote on you. I 'll hammer you if it comes to it, hope you know that, lol.

This post struck me as odd, just wording wise.
It just seemed to me like the kinda thing you might write in pm to your killer-partner, you know, stop defending me, it looks bad, defend yourself, you're in more serious trouble than me, if needs be, i'll distance hammer you.

If you find someone scummy, you vote for them, so why wait until it was a hammer vote?

Shadow.

aha!
yet another cross-post--the scourge of mafia players everywhere
i'll have to re-read shadow now
Alas, gotta run to a meeting.
back in 2 hours or so.

[Fener]

Today is going to be hell at work, mondays suck. I will post when I can but for today, its not going to be much.


@Liosan, my senses started tingling at that statement as well... not that I think it was a missent PM, but the famaliarity and blatent message to stop. I don't think Rash is shadow's symp, but I do think shadow might be trying to make clear that he is someone who doesn't need to be symped. If someone did that to me I would brush it off and let my play speak for itself to prove my innocence if an accusation was made later. Scum on the other hand might find it necessary to nip it in the bud early lest it be brought up later.

[Shadow]

Liosan, on Nov 24 2008, 12:42 PM, said:

Shadow, on Nov 24 2008, 06:55 PM, said:

Rash, I appreciate the defense, but I don't think its needed at this time. Kess has on a joke vote, and Mandy has no case on me at all. I do however think your plight is more serious, as Sil has a more serious case on you (weak, but at least serious) and you might want to adress his and the other(can't remember who) vote on you. I 'll hammer you if it comes to it, hope you know that, lol.

This post struck me as odd, just wording wise.
It just seemed to me like the kinda thing you might write in pm to your killer-partner, you know, stop defending me, it looks bad, defend yourself, you're in more serious trouble than me, if needs be, i'll distance hammer you.

If you find someone scummy, you vote for them, so why wait until it was a hammer vote?

Shadow.

If I was a killer, I would have put that in a pm. Since I am not, I couldn't so I put it in thread. C'mon really. No one wants to look at anyone other than me or Rashan? Weak.

[Shadow]

Fener, on Nov 24 2008, 12:57 PM, said:

Today is going to be hell at work, mondays suck. I will post when I can but for today, its not going to be much.


@Liosan, my senses started tingling at that statement as well... not that I think it was a missent PM, but the famaliarity and blatent message to stop. I don't think Rash is shadow's symp, but I do think shadow might be trying to make clear that he is someone who doesn't need to be symped. If someone did that to me I would brush it off and let my play speak for itself to prove my innocence if an accusation was made later. Scum on the other hand might find it necessary to nip it in the bud early lest it be brought up later.

This makes sense, but if you'll notice, Rashan playing the symp card at the beginning of the day is what drew the attention to me in the first place. I would have adressed it early on, if it mattered. It didn't. The point is, I have 3 votes now, and only 1 is reasonable. Mandy's is full of holes, if I need to, I'll pick him apart. Kess voted and left, but whhen he comes back will no doubt say, I'll leave my vote there cause evidence points to Shadow. Liosan made a claim. I've addressed it. Again I say. weak.

[Shadow]

Anomandaris, on Nov 24 2008, 12:18 PM, said:

Shadow, on Nov 24 2008, 01:16 PM, said:

Anomandaris, on Nov 24 2008, 12:14 PM, said:

Shadow, on Nov 24 2008, 01:06 PM, said:

Here is a good reason. I am not scum, haven't played like scum, and I have 2 votes on me for no good reason. Keep it there, its just 2 votes.

It's just 2 votes. Why over react? The fierce reaction from both you and Rashan is part of the reason why I keep the vote where it is.

Damnit I gotta go. Who over reacted? I never even made a defense! whatever, back in an hour or three.

Nice to hear you don't over react! Rashan totally have though.

Missed this

And your still voting me because?

Rash had more spam and "similar content" you voted for me. Rash over-reacted(acccording to you) and your vote is still on me. Something for the others to keep in mind.

[Liosan]

No, as killers can only pm each other, not symps, so while it may be the kind of thing you say to killer partner, its also the kind of thing you say to symp.
And that last bit? Why didnt you just say:

Its weak that none of you look at people other than me, and though I was telling Rashan to stay away from me a while back, I may aswell tell you all to leave him alone.
Dont look at either of us!
Its weak!

[Fener]

At this point I am leaning towards shadow. Another to really make my senses tingle is Kaschan. Quiet, mid to low post first day, all joke posts. Exactly like Galain in 33, and Meanas in 34. Both Scum. In fact

vote Kaschan

I don't really expect anyone to follow me at this point, as there is not really much evidence. But on day one all you really have are your instincts and this is what mine are telling me.

[Liosan]

Mandys vote is weak, and one of the reasons ive put him as possibly on Rashans team, if rashan is scum.

[Fener]

Will be in and out the next 2-3 hours but will stay logged in, I am not lurking .... much

[Shadow]

Liosan, on Nov 24 2008, 01:06 PM, said:

No, as killers can only pm each other, not symps, so while it may be the kind of thing you say to killer partner, its also the kind of thing you say to symp.
And that last bit? Why didnt you just say:

Its weak that none of you look at people other than me, and though I was telling Rashan to stay away from me a while back, I may aswell tell you all to leave him alone.
Dont look at either of us!
Its weak!

The case on me is weak. Thats all none of the rest. Just the case on me.

Fener, on Nov 24 2008, 01:07 PM, said:

At this point I am leaning towards shadow. Another to really make my senses tingle is Kaschan. Quiet, mid to low post first day, all joke posts. Exactly like Galain in 33, and Meanas in 34. Both Scum. In fact

vote Kaschan

I don't really expect anyone to follow me at this point, as there is not really much evidence. But on day one all you really have are your instincts and this is what mine are telling me.

Thyrllan has done the same. And Korlat hasn't posted yet.

Liosan, on Nov 24 2008, 01:08 PM, said:

Mandys vote is weak, and one of the reasons ive put him as possibly on Rashans team, if rashan is scum.

Yet your vote is on me I believe. hmmmm.

[Rashan]

I'm scum allied to Mandy, Lios?! Do tell.

[Liosan]

For different reasons, which I dont consider as weak.
His reasons are weak, I have no objection to him keeping his vote there, as long as he comes up with better reasons.

Shadow, on Nov 24 2008, 07:59 PM, said:

C'mon really. No one wants to look at anyone other than me or Rashan? Weak.

And youre saying that this was only calling the case on you weak, and not the one on Rashan?

[Liosan]

Rashan, on Nov 24 2008, 08:17 PM, said:

I'm scum allied to Mandy, Lios?! Do tell.

Well, he's basically accusing you of worse stuff than Shadow did, then voting him, so it appears like he's unwilling to vote you.

[Rashan]

That is true, I suppose. I'd more or less forgotten about it, but after all my challenges to put his vote on me, he never once did. Interesting. Especially as, should you folks decide to lynch me (L-4, ain't it?), I WILL come up inno.

[Liosan]

Rashan, on Nov 24 2008, 08:23 PM, said:

That is true, I suppose. I'd more or less forgotten about it, but after all my challenges to put his vote on me, he never once did. Interesting. Especially as, should you folks decide to lynch me (L-4, ain't it?), I WILL come up inno.

Certain symp is certain .
And if you're symp it explains shadow having to post, rather than pm.

G2g for a while.

[Shadow]

Liosan, on Nov 24 2008, 01:19 PM, said:

Shadow, on Nov 24 2008, 07:59 PM, said:

C'mon really. No one wants to look at anyone other than me or Rashan? Weak.

And youre saying that this was only calling the case on you weak, and not the one on Rashan?

No, I'm saying that sheeple like to be led around day 1 and don't look at who's doing the leading. THAT is what is weak. Both cases started telling both Rash and I to stop spamming. We have yet there have been votes added on both of us after the fact. Your vote on me Liosan is acceptable, as it at least makes sense. Mandy's we've been over, and Kess never removed his, but Fener is the only one who even looked at anyone else. Its a weak attempt to get a day 1 lynch without having to pay attention. I haven't voted for Rash and I have defended him, why? Because he plays EXACTLY like I am playing. Why are we both spamming and wasting time? Because killers see that as a perfect oportunity to push Sheep into lynching. If we die, info, is gained, however you lose active players and the thread gets deader and deader as the game progresses because the killers pick off the experienced. Bonus if they get you to lynch them for them. I assume that Rashan's reasons are similar for defending me. I simply don't think I need any defense. Nothing of value to defend against except that Rash and I are defending each other, which is why I asked (not told) asked him to stop. It was causing more of you to think, huh, maybe the killers that are pushing for their lynch are onto something.

*End Mini-rant

[Path-Shaper]

It's day 1. There's 27 hours left of the day.

13 players remain:
Thyrllan, Rashan, Anomandaris, Kaschan, D'riss, Kessobahn, Korlat, Liosan, Gamelon, Shadow, Tennes, Fener, Silanah

7 votes needed to lynch
7 votes needed to go to night

1 vote Driss - Gamelon
3 vote Shadow - Kessobahn, Anomandaris, Liosan
3 vote Rashan - Tennes, Silanah, Driss
1 vote Silanah - Shadow
1 vote Kaschan - Fener

Players who have not voted:
Thyrllan, Kaschan, Korlat, Rashan

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 24 November 2008 - 06:40 PM

[Shadow]

Damn, dead thread.

Rash if you are around, what do you think about Sil being a killer? Since no one else wants to get into a discussion. By the way, I think Mandy is just a confused inno. But why he won't vote you is curious.

Edit: I might put D'riss in there as a possible symp. Wasn't around to add pressure when it started, but came on and tossed the vote on you.

Edit 2: And why haven't you voted?

This post has been edited by Shadow: 24 November 2008 - 06:43 PM

[Shadow]

And I just realized that Rash said he had a virus. lol

[Kaschan]

After looking over the posts again. I think that D'riss could be a symp. I also am getting a funny feeling from Tennes. It would be a good killer strategy to get two trains going on spammers while keep the pressure off of themselves and their symp. But I don't have enough evidence to warrant a vote at this point. It is just a feeling.