[Fener]

Hood's Path, on Nov 14 2008, 01:34 AM, said:

Ruse, on Nov 11 2008, 05:52 AM, said:

Ano does seem the more suspicious of the two. Only problem is, he's not going to be around till tomorrow, so we're not going to hear much more from him and I'd rather not vote someone off who cant defend themselves.

@Telas and there is this. Maybe trying slight deflection? Ruse didn't vote for Anomandaris. FYI.

Ah, that's interesting. The lynches have gone so fast, that it has been hard to keep tabs on who's on the trains. I'm gonna have a reread through Ruse's posts when I come back on tomorrow. I'm too tired right now, I'm going to bed.

remove vote

until we get to the bottom of this. Gn.

[Gamelon]

Hood's Path, on Nov 14 2008, 12:34 AM, said:

Ruse, on Nov 11 2008, 05:52 AM, said:

Ano does seem the more suspicious of the two. Only problem is, he's not going to be around till tomorrow, so we're not going to hear much more from him and I'd rather not vote someone off who cant defend themselves.

@Telas and there is this. Maybe trying slight deflection? Ruse didn't vote for Anomandaris. FYI.

In his defence it was day one and we were luckier than we have ever been (apparently) in lynching scum on day one. I voted Ano with reservations but then I guess we always have reservations particularly on the early lynches.

I have not voted on either of the trains since then. Both times the trains were pretty much done by the time I was active on the forums and I am sure we agree that Rashan was always going to get lynched both times. Only a fool scum would not join the trains - especially the second train on Rashan after the BP revelation. Rashan voted for Anomander too. lol

Is it safe to say that some of the cult know each other?

[Galayn Lord]

Gamelon, on Nov 13 2008, 04:58 PM, said:

Hood's Path, on Nov 14 2008, 12:34 AM, said:

Ruse, on Nov 11 2008, 05:52 AM, said:

Ano does seem the more suspicious of the two. Only problem is, he's not going to be around till tomorrow, so we're not going to hear much more from him and I'd rather not vote someone off who cant defend themselves.

@Telas and there is this. Maybe trying slight deflection? Ruse didn't vote for Anomandaris. FYI.

Is it safe to say that some of the cult know each other?

I'm taking it as a given.

Really, this game is heavily stacked against the Townies. How the hell are we supposed to win when the Possessed are taken into account? I hope we've got more firepower than's been shown so far.

Oh, I'm keeping my vote on you, both because it seems to annoy you so much and, frankly, I think you're far more Cultish feeling than Meanas. Gotta do something to keep myself entertained.

[Galayn Lord]

... aaaand, I'm talking to myself again.

Damn time zones.


(if it's not too much of an alt giveaway, I'm in California, and you all seem to be in Europe/UK, South Africa, and Australia).

[Tennes]

Hood's Path, on Nov 13 2008, 07:16 PM, said:

Glad you brought this up... I think Fener is suspect as well. He was his normal kinda spammy self first day and night, after night 1 he kinda shut up. I think Fener is a cult recruit. Just keeping that in mind. Not necessarily gonna go after him because I am assuming recruit, but something to keep an eye on.

Saw he just

Would this not point to him being possessed rather than a Laton recruit?
Since the possessed have new players behind there alts and would act differently, recruits get recruited

[Galain]

I'm back.

Sorry I'm (relatively) absent on this mafia day, today and tomorrow I have some work to do away from the computer. Anyways the week-end break is coming, I'll catch up then for sure.

For today, some interesting names have surfaced. I'm still OK for a Meanas lynch if time becomes short and this would be better than no lynch. Despite the internet problem excuses that might be true, his behavior specially on day 1 is too compatible with the missing Ivet to ignore.

For the cult, the Omtose-style of playing could apply to Galayn Lord, or even Emurlahn. That's a name I throw out there out of the blue, when I have time I'll try to do a re-read and see if I can back it up with anything. The only one I don't see as original cult is Tennes, since his reveal makes even more sense with the CF on Rashan. Not dismissing him as a recruit, of course.

As for the possessed, I haven't seen anything bizarre yet, maybe it's too early to have started, or to tell. Once again a good reread will clarify things. But like I said, that will wait in my case for the week-end break. Good work in the mean time to Hood's Path for digging up all this.

[Tennes]

How many votes is that on meanas btw?

[Galayn Lord]

Tennes, on Nov 13 2008, 11:51 PM, said:

How many votes is that on meanas btw?

I count three.

[Tennes]

So the case against him is he didn't place votes because of a fake internet issues?
I must just say thats rather convenient if you think about it.
I don't see why he would fake something like that though, especially with the rashan lynch, if i where rashans partner and there was a reveal i would have been one of the first guys to place my vote.
I think that if we do lynch meanas and he comes up inno we should have a good look at the guys trying to get a cheap lynch out of a someone having net problems.

[Galayn Lord]

Well, anyways, I'm out - I'll be back in eight or nine hours, after I sleep off all this alcohol.

It took me about five minutes to type that, and two to type this, and I got to stop.

[Galain]

Tennes, on Nov 14 2008, 10:14 AM, said:

So the case against him is he didn't place votes because of a fake internet issues?
I must just say thats rather convenient if you think about it.
I don't see why he would fake something like that though, especially with the rashan lynch, if i where rashans partner and there was a reveal i would have been one of the first guys to place my vote.
I think that if we do lynch meanas and he comes up inno we should have a good look at the guys trying to get a cheap lynch out of a someone having net problems.

Maybe the first time he "acted" the internet issue hoping deadline would come and we wouldn't have enough votes to get Anomandaris (there was a huge amount needed on day 1). Knowing his bluff is getting called, maybe now he keeps acting internet issues at times that would inconvenient for him being scum so that we accept the excuse he used on day 1.

Or he's genuine and just bad lucky in his timing. Who knows?

That's the point I guess, you can't know. So what do you do, take a chance and ignore it, or take a chance and lynch him? I guess it depends on the inno situation at this moment, and IMO we can afford scenario 2.

[Gamelon]

Not much happened since I fell asleep last night. Probably because a titbit contributor has been online.

@Galayn your vote never bothered me, it was the way you conveniently altered your view on me to suit the mood of other players that I needed to highlight. I get the impression that you are in most peoples top three as lynch material. Might be good to try and build a case or two today rather than to cling onto a weak as hell day one vote that was always too much of a convenience for you.

Not sure who I want to vote for at present. Hopefully somebody will cover themselves in a pile of shit (ala Anomander) before the end of day.

[Galain]

Galayn Lord, on Nov 14 2008, 10:17 AM, said:

Well, anyways, I'm out - I'll be back in eight or nine hours, after I sleep off all this alcohol.

It took me about five minutes to type that, and two to type this, and I got to stop.

Drunk! GET HIM!

[Korvalain]

Caught up a little with the thread, a cult member gone now as well. This has to be the best start the town has had in a mafia game. Maybe only having the Jester killed night 1 can compete.

Again a strange choice for kill, people were talking about Omtose and his post count and lack of content and suddenly he's dead? On top of Serc dying yesterday and all as well.

Tennes, on Nov 14 2008, 09:14 AM, said:

So the case against him is he didn't place votes because of a fake internet issues?
I must just say thats rather convenient if you think about it.
I don't see why he would fake something like that though, especially with the rashan lynch, if i where rashans partner and there was a reveal i would have been one of the first guys to place my vote.
I think that if we do lynch meanas and he comes up inno we should have a good look at the guys trying to get a cheap lynch out of a someone having net problems.

Presumably this is Meanas on day 1. Its not just the fact he didn't return and cast a vote for Ano. Its just 3 hours before day end he rather dismissed the case on Ano and instead went ahead and voted Tellan. For no obvious purpose I can see with 3 hours to go I don't think Tellan had anything against him or had any other votes. Why vote for someone when there's only 3 hours to go, and we're trying to get votes for a train for someone else, who was a pretty good day 1 candidate? And then turned out to be Ivet.

Its this coupled with the fact he didn't return which makes me suspicious of Meanas. It could certainly be just he was mistaken about Ano and all and wanted to look elsewhere.. but with 3 hours to go voting elsewhere, and not coming back. Timing there makes it look bad.

[Path-Shaper]

it is day 4, you have 21 hours remaining.

There are 14 players remaining. 8 for a lynch, 7 to go to night.

2 votes for meanas (hoods path, emurlahn)
1 vote for ruse (telas)

Players not to have voted :- Fener, Galain, Galayn lord, Gamelon, Korvalain, Liosan, Meanas, Mockra, Ruse, Shadow, Tennes

[Tennes]

Galain, on Nov 14 2008, 09:29 AM, said:

Tennes, on Nov 14 2008, 10:14 AM, said:

So the case against him is he didn't place votes because of a fake internet issues?
I must just say thats rather convenient if you think about it.
I don't see why he would fake something like that though, especially with the rashan lynch, if i where rashans partner and there was a reveal i would have been one of the first guys to place my vote.
I think that if we do lynch meanas and he comes up inno we should have a good look at the guys trying to get a cheap lynch out of a someone having net problems.

Maybe the first time he "acted" the internet issue hoping deadline would come and we wouldn't have enough votes to get Anomandaris (there was a huge amount needed on day 1). Knowing his bluff is getting called, maybe now he keeps acting internet issues at times that would inconvenient for him being scum so that we accept the excuse he used on day 1.

Or he's genuine and just bad lucky in his timing. Who knows?

That's the point I guess, you can't know. So what do you do, take a chance and ignore it, or take a chance and lynch him? I guess it depends on the inno situation at this moment, and IMO we can afford scenario 2.

Yes it would seem we do have the luxury of going for your option 2.
Just wanted to point out that his net problems could also be an easy excuse for scum to get him lynched.

Im also pretty worried about the cult. They are also looking for the killers and in doing so eliminating the competition and growing inn numbers with every lynch.
Perhaps we should look hard at omtose's posts today and attempt to keep the playing field level by trying to lynch another cult member before they have a bigger block in the votes.

[Korvalain]

So we had 3 hours to go, Ano had 4 votes, then the train started to form and moved up to 7 pretty quick. With pretty good reason.

Then we have Meanas vote and comments. I wasn't around when all this went down, but to me seems a little dismissive of Ano's case really, he's just RPing, and he's being a little annoying? I rather thought it was because there was an incriminating drunk post. And he's putting it down to RP.

Could be just mistaken about the whole thing, but well I'm not sure.

Meanas said:

Anomandaris: Yeah, he has basically just lorded over us the fact that he has a better avi then us! Annoying yes, if he keeps it up I will happily vote for him.

Tellan: Ah just posting to avoid modkill! 'Hearts not in it' 'dont expect much from me' Thats not fucking playing damn it! Thats just annoying.

right now:

Vote: Tellan

Because fuck it even if Anomandaris is just rping at least he is trying and Telas and Gam may actually be worth having around, whereas Tellan just seems to be apathetic!

P.s. @Gamelon: Playing the noob card is not going to win you any respite

[Liosan]

I am pleasantly surprised. The day is not yet over

so far, our main challenge seemed to be finding the cult when we had yet to really look for them at all. Omtose's death changes that which is excellent. It is theoretically possible he was recruited the same night he was killed, but I find it unlikely as Omtose was one of the main suspects at the time and it's hardly a good idea to recruit someone that can very well be lynched.

Meanas too is like that, unless he was originally cult which is always possible.

So, I'm left with this list.
Korvalain
Galain
Mockra
(Fener)
Before I go further, understand that I cannot build much of a case against cultists based on quotes at this time. Our game so far has been purely focused on the hunt for the Ivets. People have not been targeted with suspicions of being cult. At least not to any serious degree. As such, they've not been forced to defend themselves, or even take a stand at all in regards to that faction and thus there's little explicit to find. Nevertheless, I am a fervent believer in finding alignment through playing style.

So, Korvalain. He fits the quiet evil profile quite snugly. He's quiet, he says very little, and he rarely commits to anything that's not already a given. His play reminds me of Mocker in 32, Grief as the cult in 31, Silencer and Gavin as leader and poisoner respectively in 17.

Galain, well, my basis for suspicion there is simply that he plays much like I would if I was evil. Now, I don't pretend that everyone do play, or should play, like me, but it still draws my attention when people act as I do when I can kick anyone out of the game with a simple message (recruitment applies the same I think).

Mockra - I don't know. I'll have to come back to that later today when I'm back from my doctor's appointment. Sufficient to say at this point is that when I considered whom to put on my list, mockra sprang fort in my mind like a jack-in-the-box. Why that is I'll have to come back to you with.

Then there's Fener who's playing style has changed I think. Whether that is a result of getting more into the game, recruitment or possession I cannot say.

For now, I vote Korvalain

[Tennes]

Korvalain, on Nov 14 2008, 09:39 AM, said:

Tennes, on Nov 14 2008, 09:14 AM, said:

So the case against him is he didn't place votes because of a fake internet issues?
I must just say thats rather convenient if you think about it.
I don't see why he would fake something like that though, especially with the rashan lynch, if i where rashans partner and there was a reveal i would have been one of the first guys to place my vote.
I think that if we do lynch meanas and he comes up inno we should have a good look at the guys trying to get a cheap lynch out of a someone having net problems.

Presumably this is Meanas on day 1. Its not just the fact he didn't return and cast a vote for Ano. Its just 3 hours before day end he rather dismissed the case on Ano and instead went ahead and voted Tellan. For no obvious purpose I can see with 3 hours to go I don't think Tellan had anything against him or had any other votes. Why vote for someone when there's only 3 hours to go, and we're trying to get votes for a train for someone else, who was a pretty good day 1 candidate? And then turned out to be Ivet.

Its this coupled with the fact he didn't return which makes me suspicious of Meanas. It could certainly be just he was mistaken about Ano and all and wanted to look elsewhere.. but with 3 hours to go voting elsewhere, and not coming back. Timing there makes it look bad.

I am not saying we shouldnt vote off meanas, rather that we should not be too focused on one player.
Especially when all we have on him is his apparent internet problems and voting times. I just dont see him being so blatantly obvious.
Than again, Rashan and Ano were pretty obvious as well..*shrug*

[Liosan]

cross post with Korvalain x2, Tennes and PS


Btb, I am not convinced of Meanas I must say. It just strikes me as so incredibly foolish not to vote for anomandaris at that time, if he was his partner. It was obvious that Ano would go, and Meanas must've known it put him in a very bad light not to vote in case he turned up guilty. So I'm not convinced