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#1021 User is offline   Ruse 

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 07:08 PM

View PostEmurlahn, on Nov 13 2008, 08:50 PM, said:

View PostRuse, on Nov 13 2008, 06:46 PM, said:

View PostFener, on Nov 13 2008, 08:43 PM, said:

Another note: interesting how Meanas keep talking about Galayne Lord - but without doing anything about it - possible distancing?
Also, he's shown interest in Gamelon, the same target Galayne Lord now wants to go after. Is that a possible pattern I see?



Meanas cant be involved wuth both Rashan and GL though, there's only one Ivet left. We assume, but then PS said all the info we needed for the beginning of the game was in the OP, so I think it's a good guess. We'll know after we hit another Ivet

Do we know specifically that we have no symps though.


If they do have symps, the symps most likely cant kill. I dont think their would be more than two, which means they would have to somehow lynch almost every other person in the game to win. So possible symps really aren't that much of a concern (to me at least). Although it's a possible explanation for Serc's wierd behaviour.

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 07:08 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on Nov 12 2008, 09:37 AM, said:

It is day 2, you have 0 minutes remaining.

18 players remain, 10 votes to lynch, 9 to go to night.

9 vote for rashan (telas, shadow, galain, tennes, meanas emurlahn, fener, rashan, ruse)
1 vote for galain (rashan)
1 vote for meanas (korvalain)

Day 2 end scene

You chased him down, led by Tennes, his face filled with grief at the loss of his amazingly non clourblinded dog.

"You killed my dog!" he shouted.

"By sticking a jumpsuit up its ass!" claimed galain.

"Dude what were you doing poking around in a dead dogs backside?" asked shadow, "was there a pm there?"

galain just shrugs, moving dirty stained hands behind their back before whistling a tune and heading toward a nearby bush.

tennes cuffs shadow across the face, enough of your posturing!! he says telepathically through the medium of smilie.

They grab Rashan, who with a hangover and no dinner is already looking deathly ill, but as you grab him there is a strange red light, floating in the air between tenees and rashan, and when tennes isnt looking everyone else runs like fuck for the bush Galain is pleasuring himself behind at the glee of possibly getting two ivets in as many days, or thats what the small sign he erected says, but you can never tell with this sort of thing.

"hand me that rope!" shouts tennes, and when he turns around to grab the rope mockra had been carrying and sees no one there he feels rashan wriggle out from his grasp. There is a flash, rashan and tennes are suddenly screaming and the world goes a little whacko for a second. you dont look back, because tennes is chasing you with his size twelves for abandoning him at the last moment and he looks like the devil in the eerie red light.

of rashan there are but traces of smoke and mirrors, cunningly set up before hand with a small disco ball set aside streaming funny colours to the sound of bizet.

It is night 2. You have 12 hours (of course i go to bed soon and wont be up in 12 hours so hurry with the provisionals.)

No one died.

















Rashan peeked out from behind a bush, "wow, that was close!"

"No i hit your leg," says galain with a sheepish look on their face.


I never understood this...if there was 10 to lynch, why does he post the scene with only having 9 on Rashan? Did I miss a vote?

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 07:11 PM

View PostFener, on Nov 13 2008, 09:04 PM, said:

Thank you Ruse. :rofl:

Well, I am leaning towards Meanas at the moment - the connection explanation still doesn't look good to me. Also, the connection between Meanas and Galayne Lord might be that they are both cult, but then I don't know why cult would not vote for Ano? :p


That's the point I was making earlier. Unless Meanas is a vanilla Ivet symp trying to muddy the waters and hide his last remaining master. Or got recruited very early in the game and is doing something similar for the cult.

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 07:12 PM

View PostHood's Path, on Nov 13 2008, 09:08 PM, said:

I never understood this...if there was 10 to lynch, why does he post the scene with only having 9 on Rashan? Did I miss a vote?


Yes, the mods forgot Mockra's hammer

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 07:13 PM

View PostRuse, on Nov 13 2008, 08:08 PM, said:

View PostEmurlahn, on Nov 13 2008, 08:50 PM, said:

View PostRuse, on Nov 13 2008, 06:46 PM, said:

View PostFener, on Nov 13 2008, 08:43 PM, said:

Another note: interesting how Meanas keep talking about Galayne Lord - but without doing anything about it - possible distancing?
Also, he's shown interest in Gamelon, the same target Galayne Lord now wants to go after. Is that a possible pattern I see?



Meanas cant be involved wuth both Rashan and GL though, there's only one Ivet left. We assume, but then PS said all the info we needed for the beginning of the game was in the OP, so I think it's a good guess. We'll know after we hit another Ivet

Do we know specifically that we have no symps though.



If they do have symps, the symps most likely cant kill. I dont think their would be more than two, which means they would have to somehow lynch almost every other person in the game to win. So possible symps really aren't that much of a concern (to me at least). Although it's a possible explanation for Serc's wierd behaviour.

Well it could explain certain connections found between players - like Meanas and galayne Lord. And I do think symps are a concern, because they are not on our side. :p

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 07:14 PM

View PostRuse, on Nov 13 2008, 08:11 PM, said:

View PostFener, on Nov 13 2008, 09:04 PM, said:

Thank you Ruse. :rofl:

Well, I am leaning towards Meanas at the moment - the connection explanation still doesn't look good to me. Also, the connection between Meanas and Galayne Lord might be that they are both cult, but then I don't know why cult would not vote for Ano? :p


That's the point I was making earlier. Unless Meanas is a vanilla Ivet symp trying to muddy the waters and hide his last remaining master. Or got recruited very early in the game and is doing something similar for the cult.

I'd say both those options are possible.

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 07:20 PM

View PostGalayn Lord, on Nov 13 2008, 06:36 PM, said:

Re: Gamelon: In fact, he hasn't posted anything of substance the whole game. A brief attack on me Day 1, and ... nothing but commenting on the blindingly obvious. Feels very Cultish - someone who's part of a faction that needs to lay low, and has no power of his own.

Never mind Meanas for the moment.

Vote For a Town and detract away from Meanas


Edit: And having said that, I realized what time it is, and I need to get going. Back in five or six hours. Other people are highly recommended to read through all of Gamelon's posts and decide for themselves, assuming anyone else is online - I'm in a completely opposing timezone to just about everyone, alas.


I like it how he ranted about my 'deflection' but conveniently plays it down here. Which is it to be?

Commenting on the blindingly obvious - I agreed with much of the discussion that took place before I came online and in some cases the days and nights were too short and missed me out. The active periods of play seem to be outside of my activity.

Your vote is a joke. Were you sincerely ever interested in Meanas?

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 07:38 PM

Here for everyone's reference and so I don't have to keep going back :p

Train 1: Rashan, Emur, Thyr, Galain, Serc, Omtose, HP, Shadow, Fener, Gay Lord, Mokra, Gamelon

Train 2: Telas, Shadow, Galain, Tennes, Meanas, Emurhlan, Fener, Rashan, Ruse, Mockra,

Train 3: Emur, Fener, Gay lord, HP, Mockra, Omtose, Shadow, Tennes, Telas

One thing of note. I would think that since the killers know one another its possible they weren't on the second train, but once it was evident Rashan was going down a second time they could get on the Rashan train at any point. Ironically I fall in that category. My only defense is that the day 2 lynch was insanely fast and I was asleep and hadn't logged in the entire time the train was happening. Others in that category: Gay lord, Omtose (scum), um...lol maybe I shouldn't bring up that point. But there it is. Ok really now, going to go back over Gay lords posts.

EDIT to correct train #2 order.

This post has been edited by Hood's Path: 13 November 2008 - 10:18 PM


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Posted 13 November 2008 - 07:51 PM

View PostGalayn Lord, on Nov 11 2008, 08:36 PM, said:

*crickets*

OK ...


In any case, I'm in favor of heading after Rashan. Anyone mentioned in Anomander's rather bizarre ramblings should be suspect. And we've already struck successfully once, why not again?

Hopefully, a little quicker this time, as should be usual for Day 2.


Well this was pre- tennes reveal and pre train. So it could be distancing but why take that risk of bringing it up, this would lean me away from him being Ivet, though cult.... *goes back to read*

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 08:00 PM

I just went through Gay Lords posts...after reading them..there is not much there. Not much spam, throws his opinions around. Not so sure on him anymore. Now to Mockra! :p

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 08:02 PM

I'm not totally sure that there wouldnt have been killers on the first Rashan train as well, because as soon as Tennes revealed and was supported it was pretty damn obvious Rashan was going down so If i was a killer I would jump on to try and detract attention from myself, which would suggest somewhere in the middle of the train. Which adds credence to the Meanas theory as he was one of the main suspects after Rashan at that point and jumped on when it was obvious Rashan was dead.
Oh screw it il put my money where my mouth is, as I may be on sporadically because Ive got a report to do for tomorrow.
Vote Meanas
EDIT @ post 1028

This post has been edited by Emurlahn: 13 November 2008 - 08:03 PM


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Posted 13 November 2008 - 08:06 PM

View PostHood's Path, on Nov 13 2008, 07:51 PM, said:

View PostGalayn Lord, on Nov 11 2008, 08:36 PM, said:

*crickets*

OK ...


In any case, I'm in favor of heading after Rashan. Anyone mentioned in Anomander's rather bizarre ramblings should be suspect. And we've already struck successfully once, why not again?

Hopefully, a little quicker this time, as should be usual for Day 2.


Well this was pre- tennes reveal and pre train. So it could be distancing but why take that risk of bringing it up, this would lean me away from him being Ivet, though cult.... *goes back to read*


I think Galayn is Cult if indeed he is anything much. He has not actually posted very much other than his PS I hate Gamelon messages.

EDIT: Cross posts not symping :p

This post has been edited by Gamelon: 13 November 2008 - 08:07 PM


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Posted 13 November 2008 - 08:24 PM

View PostEmurlahn, on Nov 13 2008, 12:02 PM, said:

I'm not totally sure that there wouldnt have been killers on the first Rashan train as well, because as soon as Tennes revealed and was supported it was pretty damn obvious Rashan was going down so If i was a killer I would jump on to try and detract attention from myself, which would suggest somewhere in the middle of the train. Which adds credence to the Meanas theory as he was one of the main suspects after Rashan at that point and jumped on when it was obvious Rashan was dead.
Oh screw it il put my money where my mouth is, as I may be on sporadically because Ive got a report to do for tomorrow.
Vote Meanas
EDIT @ post 1028


That coupled with the fact that he clearly didn't want to jump on the Anomandaris train (I mean he did...but had internet connection issues) is very suspicious. He was only in on 1/3 trains of scum. (ohhhh also a thought. If he is Scum he might have been willing to vote train 2 because Rashan was possessed. He could no longer communicate with him and so figured he was possessed. Not sure if the possessed retain the ability to off thread communicate or not. /end crazy theory.) Anyway, I had a case against Meanas on Day 1, he then won't vote for Anomander on train 1. and is only 1/3 on scum lynch, and has few if any theories of his own. Finally he was very book knowledge helpful. Who else was very book knowledgable and helpful? *looks at the corpse of Omtose*

vote Meanas

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 08:28 PM

actually he wasn't on the second Rashan train, just the first one. The second one he "missed" .

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 08:36 PM

@ Emur- Sorry I meant the second overall train. First Rashan Train. lol so many trains....

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 08:36 PM

View PostEmurlahn, on Nov 13 2008, 09:28 PM, said:

actually he wasn't on the second Rashan train, just the first one. The second one he "missed" .

Really? I was about to check whether he was on that train or not. Can't say I'm surprised. I'm kind of surprised he hasn't gotten more heat than he has, but then we've been quite busy with Rashan lately.

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 08:37 PM

I'm gonna be away for one or two hours at most, then I'll be back to discuss whatever you guys want to discuss.

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 08:56 PM

Back.
I think meanas is a decent choice, but I think we need to slow down.
We've had speed lynches, and theyve worked, but then it was rather clear cut, especially yesterday, whereas today, we have more to discuss, and more evidence, via the trains.

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 09:00 PM

View PostMockra, on Nov 13 2008, 12:56 PM, said:

Back.
I think meanas is a decent choice, but I think we need to slow down.
We've had speed lynches, and theyve worked, but then it was rather clear cut, especially yesterday, whereas today, we have more to discuss, and more evidence, via the trains.



Agreed, if we get to close to a lynch to soon I will pull mine. I am all for using up this entire day I just am not sure when I can come back ( I leave in 3 hrs for the night) and don't want to not have a vote out.

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Posted 13 November 2008 - 09:01 PM

View PostHood's Path, on Nov 13 2008, 08:24 PM, said:

Finally he was very book knowledge helpful. Who else was very book knowledgable and helpful? *looks at the corpse of Omtose*


This made me lol.

OMG, anyone who has read the books is scum, get 'em. :rofl:

And those scum. They're so goddamn helpful. Anyone helpful must die. :p

Just made me laugh, the idea of it.

Still, there are many other good reasons for voting meanas.
That just has to be the funniest.

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