[Fener]

Galayn Lord, on Nov 13 2008, 07:20 PM, said:

Just read through all of Meanas' posts, and it's about 90% "Just dropping in" stuff.

Not quite enough to get a vote, but ... he hasn't really taken a hard stance against anyone.

Yeah, I'll dig up a couple of his posts. Brb.

[Galayn Lord]

Fener, on Nov 13 2008, 10:23 AM, said:

Galayn Lord, on Nov 13 2008, 07:20 PM, said:

Just read through all of Meanas' posts, and it's about 90% "Just dropping in" stuff.

Not quite enough to get a vote, but ... he hasn't really taken a hard stance against anyone.

Yeah, I'll dig up a couple of his posts. Brb.

I'd also add that I'm still suspicious of Gamelon. That "noob mistake" doesn't ring right, especially as he seems to be familiar with events in previous games.

... in fact, now that I've read through, he definitely tried to play the noob card and shows a decent bit of experience at the same time. No one who's played more than two games - "pure MAFIA" being a nonsense term - would make an honest role-reveal on Day 1.

[Galayn Lord]

Re: Gamelon: In fact, he hasn't posted anything of substance the whole game. A brief attack on me Day 1, and ... nothing but commenting on the blindingly obvious. Feels very Cultish - someone who's part of a faction that needs to lay low, and has no power of his own.

Never mind Meanas for the moment.

Vote Gamelon.


Edit: And having said that, I realized what time it is, and I need to get going. Back in five or six hours. Other people are highly recommended to read through all of Gamelon's posts and decide for themselves, assuming anyone else is online - I'm in a completely opposing timezone to just about everyone, alas.

This post has been edited by Galayn Lord: 13 November 2008 - 06:38 PM

[Ruse]

Day two Rashan train:

Emur
Omtose
Mockra
Shadow
Fener
GL
HP
Tennes
Telas (Hammer)
Myself (Cross vote)

The fact that Omtose is on that train strengthens my suspicions that some cultists would be hiding there.

Of those Mockra stands out for his single vote-post then absence. Tennes put Rashan on L-1 then disappeared, after it was decided to slow the game down a little. Meanas once again complained about internet and didnt vote scum. Gam and Liosan were both around at the start of the train but didnt vote, Gam with a single post, who was then missing until just a little while ago. Our last remaining NA perhaps?

[Fener]

Meanas first posts are alot about Grief and some speculation about the books versus the game and complaining about internet connection. Then there's posts about how slow the game is, how dead the thread is etc.

Showing some concern over Gamelon:

Meanas, on Nov 12 2008, 01:39 AM, said:

So final thoughts before I retire.
Sorry Serc, I know you wanted company.

People can go ahead and look at me all they want. As I see it, I was going to come under scrutiny anyway. Jumping onto the end of a train or not jumping onto the wagon is a 'damned if you, damned if you don't' situation.

Also I am a little apprehensive about Gamelon. First there was his role claim and subsequent noob comment, which he got defensive about when it was brought up. Later on though, he asked about why there was an Ano train and then just hopped onto it trying to be the hammer. I get the impression of distancing here, that or I have missed something.

Cheers lads, going to get a little sleep and then see whats what in the morning.

Making lists:

Meanas, on Nov 12 2008, 08:38 AM, said:

@Thyrllan: Honestly I am not sure. I would like to see what happens tonight though.

I am annoyed at Tellan's attitude though. Not that is really worth lynching someone over.

Then going by P-S posts:

Looking at the train on Anomandaris:
rashan, emurlahn, galain, serc, thyrllan, shadow, fener, galayn lord, gamelon, omtose, mockra, hoods path

Rashan: I am not sure about, he voted Anomandaris early and I think its possible he was distancing. So a possible lynch candidate come tomorrow

As for:
emurlahn, galain, serc and thyrllan.

They got on the the train in the space of about 5 hours and I feel they were just looking for a lynch so I reckon in that block we probably have a group of innocents and maybe a cult member.

An hour later it was:
shadow, fener, galayn lord, gamelon on the train.

Galayn Lord: definitely worth watching as they have said almost nothing this game.
Shadow and Fener can probably go into the previous group as well as they had reasons and have were around and talking.
Now Gamelon still bugs me, so I have no problem voting him.

Then its Omtose, Mockra and HP
HP and Omtose can go to the group of either cult or innocents as I see their votes were both missed by P-S
and then Mockra was just bandwagoning, but he did give reasons.

So as I see it, my possible day 2 candidates:

Rashan - because he seems to be linked to Anomandaris
Gamelon - because well I have stated before, go look it up.
Tellan and Bhargast - because neither of them said anything of note and to my mind have not really been playing!

Also I would like to hear a little from:
Korvalain, Ruse, Tennes

Wants to look at Galayne Lord - but did he?

Meanas, on Nov 12 2008, 08:43 AM, said:

Actually looking over Galayn Lord's posts, especially his last one, chalk him up as another possible candidate!

After that a couple of bla bla posts.

Defending himself for the Ano non-vote:

Meanas, on Nov 12 2008, 01:10 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on Nov 12 2008, said:

It is day 1, you have just under 2 hours remaining

There are 22 players remaining. 12 for a lynch, 11 to go to night.

11 votes for anomandaris - rashan, emurlahn, galain, serc, thyrllan, shadow, fener, galayn lord, gamelon, omtose, mockra
2 votes for rashan - telas, liosan
1 vote for emurlahn - D'riss
1 vote for tellan - meanas

This is about the time my internet connection fucked up and if you do not want to believe me fine. But from my point of view, with 2 hours left and Anomandaris at L-1, the chances of a lynch not occurring were minimal, now you people who say seem to think this connects me to Anomandaris because I did not vote for him? huh?
I feel insulted that you lot think I am scum and that I would have been stupid enough to make up an excuse to disappear, when it was blatantly obvious that Ano was going to get lynched.

More defense:

Meanas, on Nov 12 2008, 02:36 PM, said:

Korvalain, on Nov 12 2008, 03:13 PM, said:

Sorry I haven't been around. Had a lot of work on and haven't had a chance to read or post.
Caught up now more or less, so thats nice work on Ano.

So its looking like Rashan or Meanas today. Galain also got a mention in Ano's drunk rambling post.

I'm probably leaning towards Meanas at this point, I don't like he didn't put the vote on Ano and instead moved to Tellan. What was it going to achieve moving to Tellan late in the day with 3 hours to go? I know he said he couldn't make it back with an hour and a half to go and I can sympathise with that. But 3 hours he's going to pressure someone? Yeah right.

And this is his reasons for not voting Ano.

Meanas said:

Anomandaris: Yeah, he has basically just lorded over us the fact that he has a better avi then us! Annoying yes, if he keeps it up I will happily vote for him.

Tellan: Ah just posting to avoid modkill! 'Hearts not in it' 'dont expect much from me' Thats not fucking playing damn it! Thats just annoying.

right now:

Vote: Tellan

Because fuck it even if Anomandaris is just rping at least he is trying and Telas and Gam may actually be worth having around, whereas Tellan just seems to be apathetic!

Ano was just RPing? His post didn't seem like it to me, or that he was trying to Lord it over us. More like Meanas was trying to halt the train.

Not sure when I'm back next so I'll put my vote on now.
Vote Meanas

Thats me trying to halt the train? WTF?
I ignored the drunk post, because it was a drunk post, last drunk post I took seriously was the damn predator and the rest of his posts were him telling us his Avi was better than ours. Hmmmm..... does that make sense now.

And you do not like that I voted for someone else? At least I voted for someone.

After that he did vote for Rashan, but it can be chalked down to distancing, since we were quite determined.

He talks alot about Tennes and of course his internet connection.

---
My points is that since he was used to the internet connection going down, I don't buy his excuse - instead I think he was counting on being able to blame on the connection when he got back. He just put the vote on someone else, saying he was going to be around, then he blamed the connection - conveniently coming back on after the night had started.

Second point is that he doesn't really have much content to show for - he smells scum also for not doing much in general.

[Galain]

Day 2 or day 3? I didn't vote day 3, but I sure remember voting day 2.

edit: @Ruse

edit 2: it's quite obvious it's day 3, sorry. You mean lynch 2, I guess.

This post has been edited by Galain: 13 November 2008 - 06:42 PM

[Fener]

Another note: interesting how Meanas keep talking about Galayne Lord - but without doing anything about it - possible distancing?
Also, he's shown interest in Gamelon, the same target Galayne Lord now wants to go after. Is that a possible pattern I see?

[Ruse]

Galain, on Nov 13 2008, 08:40 PM, said:

Day 2 or day 3? I didn't vote day 3, but I sure remember voting day 2.

edit: @Ruse

edit 2: it's quite obvious it's day 3, sorry. You mean lynch 2, I guess.

Sorry, Day 3 - day 2 of the Rashan hunt, that got muddled in my head.

[Fener]

Galayn Lord, on Nov 13 2008, 07:32 PM, said:

Fener, on Nov 13 2008, 10:23 AM, said:

Galayn Lord, on Nov 13 2008, 07:20 PM, said:

Just read through all of Meanas' posts, and it's about 90% "Just dropping in" stuff.

Not quite enough to get a vote, but ... he hasn't really taken a hard stance against anyone.

Yeah, I'll dig up a couple of his posts. Brb.

I'd also add that I'm still suspicious of Gamelon. That "noob mistake" doesn't ring right, especially as he seems to be familiar with events in previous games.

... in fact, now that I've read through, he definitely tried to play the noob card and shows a decent bit of experience at the same time. No one who's played more than two games - "pure MAFIA" being a nonsense term - would make an honest role-reveal on Day 1.

What, first you say you're suspicious of Meanas, then you say 'never mind Meanas'? What is that about?

[Ruse]

Fener, on Nov 13 2008, 08:43 PM, said:

Another note: interesting how Meanas keep talking about Galayne Lord - but without doing anything about it - possible distancing?
Also, he's shown interest in Gamelon, the same target Galayne Lord now wants to go after. Is that a possible pattern I see?

Meanas cant be involved wuth both Rashan and GL though, there's only one Ivet left. We assume, but then PS said all the info we needed for the beginning of the game was in the OP, so I think it's a good guess. We'll know after we hit another Ivet

[Hood's Path]

Ruse, on Nov 13 2008, 10:20 AM, said:

Hood's Path, on Nov 13 2008, 08:16 PM, said:

Ruse, on Nov 13 2008, 10:08 AM, said:

Hood's Path, on Nov 13 2008, 08:01 PM, said:

OK- was waiting for night to end. I think we really need to look at Meanas and Gaylan lord. Meanas for the obvious reasons, Gaylan Lord becasue... well, let me get back to you. Going to do a re-read on his posts.

I had that same strange gut feeling about galayn lord earlier. I made a semicase against him earlier, but nothing he's said is overly suspicious. Although it was the same gut feeling that would have made me suggest omtose if Shadow hadn't beaten me to it, so it could be worth listening to. For some reason I also wanna take a look at Fener, dont ask me why.

Alright, there's like 8 people online, let's hunt us some scum!

@Mockra, true enough. Assume there's still scum until you've won

Glad you brought this up... I think Fener is suspect as well. He was his normal kinda spammy self first day and night, after night 1 he kinda shut up. I think Fener is a cult recruit. Just keeping that in mind. Not necessarily gonna go after him because I am assuming recruit, but something to keep an eye on.

Saw he just posted and still want's Serc- This would fit with Serc being the last Ivet.

Just speculation- I really have nothing but feelings on the Fener front.

EDIT: LAst part cause I accidentally hit send

Uhm, Fener didnt say anything about Serc. Noone has (other than galain commenting that he acted wierdly, which he did) cos he's dead...

BAH!! meant to say Meanas. I suck with names.

[Fener]

Ruse, on Nov 13 2008, 07:46 PM, said:

Fener, on Nov 13 2008, 08:43 PM, said:

Another note: interesting how Meanas keep talking about Galayne Lord - but without doing anything about it - possible distancing?
Also, he's shown interest in Gamelon, the same target Galayne Lord now wants to go after. Is that a possible pattern I see?

Meanas cant be involved wuth both Rashan and GL though, there's only one Ivet left. We assume, but then PS said all the info we needed for the beginning of the game was in the OP, so I think it's a good guess. We'll know after we hit another Ivet

How many ivets are there?

[Ruse]

Fener, on Nov 13 2008, 08:48 PM, said:

Ruse, on Nov 13 2008, 07:46 PM, said:

Fener, on Nov 13 2008, 08:43 PM, said:

Another note: interesting how Meanas keep talking about Galayne Lord - but without doing anything about it - possible distancing?
Also, he's shown interest in Gamelon, the same target Galayne Lord now wants to go after. Is that a possible pattern I see?

Meanas cant be involved wuth both Rashan and GL though, there's only one Ivet left. We assume, but then PS said all the info we needed for the beginning of the game was in the OP, so I think it's a good guess. We'll know after we hit another Ivet

How many ivets are there?

The OP says Quinn plus two others.

[Emurlahn]

Ruse, on Nov 13 2008, 06:46 PM, said:

Fener, on Nov 13 2008, 08:43 PM, said:

Another note: interesting how Meanas keep talking about Galayne Lord - but without doing anything about it - possible distancing?
Also, he's shown interest in Gamelon, the same target Galayne Lord now wants to go after. Is that a possible pattern I see?

Meanas cant be involved wuth both Rashan and GL though, there's only one Ivet left. We assume, but then PS said all the info we needed for the beginning of the game was in the OP, so I think it's a good guess. We'll know after we hit another Ivet

Do we know specifically that we have no symps though.

[Fener]

Ruse, on Nov 13 2008, 07:49 PM, said:

Fener, on Nov 13 2008, 08:48 PM, said:

Ruse, on Nov 13 2008, 07:46 PM, said:

Fener, on Nov 13 2008, 08:43 PM, said:

Another note: interesting how Meanas keep talking about Galayne Lord - but without doing anything about it - possible distancing?
Also, he's shown interest in Gamelon, the same target Galayne Lord now wants to go after. Is that a possible pattern I see?

Meanas cant be involved wuth both Rashan and GL though, there's only one Ivet left. We assume, but then PS said all the info we needed for the beginning of the game was in the OP, so I think it's a good guess. We'll know after we hit another Ivet

How many ivets are there?

The OP says Quinn plus two others.

I don't see it.

[Ruse]

Someone else who is very much under the radar right now is Korv, who's post count has yet to exceed some of the people who died night one... Although knowing that this board's go-to vote is the lowest poster (which he is by a long shot, the next lowest Gam has twice his posts) you'd think scum would make more of an effort.

[Gamelon]

Galayn Lord, on Nov 13 2008, 06:32 PM, said:

Fener, on Nov 13 2008, 10:23 AM, said:

Galayn Lord, on Nov 13 2008, 07:20 PM, said:

Just read through all of Meanas' posts, and it's about 90% "Just dropping in" stuff.

Not quite enough to get a vote, but ... he hasn't really taken a hard stance against anyone.

Yeah, I'll dig up a couple of his posts. Brb.

I'd also add that I'm still suspicious of Gamelon. That "noob mistake" doesn't ring right, especially as he seems to be familiar with events in previous games.

... in fact, now that I've read through, he definitely tried to play the noob card and shows a decent bit of experience at the same time. No one who's played more than two games - "pure MAFIA" being a nonsense term - would make an honest role-reveal on Day 1.

You have consistently said that from day one, too. The 'also Gamelon' on the end of every post. I have never once past this action off as a noob mistake - others said it was a noob mistake - I never said it and I do not think it was a mistake. Day one is hardly filled with serious posts and I have seen others posting similar reveals/fake reveals throughout a game and quite often in day one. Plenty of people say they are inno or imply that they are. I just cut out the bullshit pretense and posted the same sentiment more clearly.

You also accused me of deflection because I voted you after you voted for me. You were the only person on my train that seemed a bit soft and apologetic, so I thought I would stick one solitary vote on you. You reacted quite badly to this one solitary vote and tried to talk about me deflecting. How was I defelecting? I did not rant about the issue, I did not bang on about you stinking a little bit - all I did was vote for you. I never tried to gather votes against you.

And then the every other post with 'also Gamelon' like it was your personal crusade to keep the train on me. Was today the day you and your friends decided to put a train on me? Or do I come after Meanas?

I hope you are not Town.

[Ruse]

Path-Shaper, on Nov 6 2008, 01:34 PM, said:

Opening Scene

...

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Quinn watched as the towns folk grabbed another Ivet, he couldnt tell who it was from this distance and with the failing light, but the orange jump suit was unmistakable. The other two, all that remained of his sect in the Ivets, where crouched behind him. Their serpent beast had taken full control over them, and instead of fear their felt empowered by the slaughter, for they were not weak like the others. The townsolf that hunted them had numerical advantage yes, but they were skilled killers, well practiced in deciet and murder. Quinn had taught them well.

"Lets move, if any of them come for us in the night we will send them to Light Brother and curse their souls to the pit."

"And Laton?" asked Lawrence.

Quinn paused for a moment, considering his hidden nemesis. "He did us a favour when he cut the comm lines to the capitol, so we can deal with him later."

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...

Bolded for your convenience Fener. Underlined bits to confirm Quinn is an Ivet, since there was confusion regarding this earlier. Not that there should still be confusion about who's who at this point

[Gamelon]

lol @ the cross post. I see today was going to be my day. I really have no objection about being lynched as I have just been so busy with RL and I admit I have not been as committed with this game as much as my previous games. This is a shame as this game has all the hall marks of a classic. I am Town and I would prefer people did not waste a lynch on me. I will ask for a modkill rather than waste a day period for my team.

[Fener]

Thank you Ruse.

Well, I am leaning towards Meanas at the moment - the connection explanation still doesn't look good to me. Also, the connection between Meanas and Galayne Lord might be that they are both cult, but then I don't know why cult would not vote for Ano?