[Shadow]

Hood's Path, on Nov 14 2008, 12:58 PM, said:

SO shadow, assuming what you say is true. You must believe there was a guard and that no NK happened on the night of Omtos's death. Would you agree that Meanas would be the most likely source of a guard? This is the last I will speak against Meanas as I seem to be beating a dead horse. If he comes up inno I am sure to be looked at. I know others aren't quite as sold as I am. Anyway, I will now focus my meager efforts on cultists... ugh, where to start.

You are right about my beliefs, though I do not discount the possibility that (one of) our healer(s) was spot on. While great right now, that would also be a bit of a pity, as there's no guarantee of repeated success. So yes, a guard is what I hope.

I believe Meanas could be a scum: seeing how he is helpful, forthcoming with bookknowledge and yet absent on lynch trains on Ivets, keeping nicely to the sidelines and not stepping full out in defense. If he's scum, he's very able to see a lost cause. Neither Shadow or Anomander was the typical helpful scum that seems to be a bit of an archtype, so Meanas could fill the niche. I cannot however scry the mind of a guard and what he would consider scummy.

I also must admit that Meanas never made it onto my personal scum shortlists so far, there were always better targets or ones standing out more.

Basically, I am at a loss right now as to the best course.
I'm willing to vote Meanas, I'm willing to vote Ruse.
I'm willing to vote a low poster as well since those can be impersonated quite easily, as well.
I'm also still willing to vote Galain, as he is the one remaining person from my initial scumlist, but he is no Ivet, of that I'm certain due to his voting behavior, so I've repressed that particular urge.

Aside from that, not a lot I'll dedicate tomorrow to a re-read.

[Telas]

In response to Shadow's "I'm not cult" post. It definitely the lesser of the possibilities if you're lying. I'm not sure why you got so defensive on that point.

[Shadow]

Right now, I like Liosan's case on Korvalain better than Telas' case on Ruse, athough I am willing to switch to that one if that becomes the main lynch option.
I believe that HP's case on (italics = edit, just for clarification) Meanas will not get a train to lynch now with these two clearcut cases unanswered.

vote Korvalain.

Reasons: we need townies who dare to speak out, rather than going with the safe option of jumping on trains and repeating reasons others gave. It's all too easy to use that as a means of justifying your jump on a train and disguising the listing of other options as shows of (fake) participation. It's scum that doesn't want to commit.

Korvalain also fits the profile of a low poster well (17 posts), so he's a very good target for me.
But I agree with HP on this: if the guard is guarding Meanas, definately keep it up.

edit: clarifying what I meant with 'Meanas'

This post has been edited by Shadow: 14 November 2008 - 06:36 PM

[Shadow]

Telas, on Nov 14 2008, 01:15 PM, said:

In response to Shadow's "I'm not cult" post. It definitely the lesser of the possibilities if you're lying. I'm not sure why you got so defensive on that point.

Mostly because I didn't entertain that particular notion when I revealed, and so, I was going through all the options to see if it was even viable
In hindsight, I should just have said what Liosan and HP brought up, that would have been enough.

[Meanas]

Shadow you seem to have jumped quite high at the idea you might be cult (long defense was long), but your reasoning is sound so I am willing to concede you might not be cult.

As to a lynch on Korv, I would be willing to vote there purely on the fact that he is a low poster and if recruited or possessed would be easy to change style/impersonate, but my first preference is still Ruse.

[Meanas]

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Ok so again I arrive and everyone disappears. WTF?
Going to re read Korv then.

[Meanas]

Korvalain, on Nov 10 2008, 12:46 PM, said:

In as well. What books is the opening post based off? I may have read them but the names don't look familiar.

Korvalain, on Nov 10 2008, 05:07 PM, said:

One thing I don't get about the possession and people coming back thing. If someone who dies, then comes back, why wouldn't we lynch them for being dead then coming back to life? I mean isn't it going to be obvious if someone has been possessed or returned or is there something else going on? Like all this possesion happening in the Beyond?


Anyway off for the night, maybe someone whose read the books may have a clue without giving away Spoilers?

I found this interesting, maybe not all that helpful, but interesting. I would like some clarification here Korv, first you said you may have read the book and then ask people who know about the book to help out without giving spoilers?

A little confused here, I have read the trilogy, but that was a few years back and it is not one of my favourites, but its distinctive and I at least remember the main characters and how things worked. What happened to you?

Edit: Also how does Korv have less posts than D'riss?

This post has been edited by Meanas: 14 November 2008 - 07:13 PM

[Path-Shaper]

it is day 4, you have 10 hours remaining.

There are 14 players remaining. 8 for a lynch, 7 to go to night.

4 vote for ruse (telas, tennes, fener, meanas)
2 votes for meanas (hoods path, emurlahn)
2 votes for korvalain (Liosan, shadow)


can people send in spoilers please? its dull without them and then you wont have any fun observations to make when you die if you dont!

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 14 November 2008 - 07:21 PM

[Hood's Path]

All right guys, I have meetings the rest of the day and am not sure if I will be back before the deadline in 10 hours. After much debating I will

remove vote

vote Korvalain

He is by far low poster, he has gone from low post to moderatly active (scummy), He has been on 0 lynch trains and could therefore be Killer OR Cult (either is fine by me.) Even if he is inno he hasn't contributed a whole lot other than parroting. If he does come up killer and not cult, Meanas I owe you an apology as I seem to remember reading a couple of your posts that would make you non original cult. I will try to check in as time permits but I really wouldn't expect much, sorry. I'll also try to make it on before deadline to lend a lynch to Meanas if thats where the day goes, or even Ruse.

EDIT to make it make sense

This post has been edited by Hood's Path: 14 November 2008 - 07:39 PM

[Gamelon]

Nearly 1200 posts and he has contributed 17 times. I do not recall any apologies or reasons given for limited activity. I have been busier this last last week than at any other time in my working life but have still tried to show a hand. I am also still pissed about the Disco game where Mockra played the bastard card and had virtually nil involvement in the forum side of the game. I understand people motivated by this reasoning as there truly is no worse way to lose to scum. This is my only motive for voting him.

Vote Korvalain.

[Meanas]

OK it seems nothing is happening right now and I need to go to bed, my vote on Ruse stays as I still feel he scum as opposed to Korv who has so little to say for himself, its hard to really get a read on him.

I doubt I will be back on before day times out, but I will try to get back before then.

Cheers lads

[Hood's Path]

I have a half an hour if anyone's around....

[Telas]

If you have something to say, HP, you should say it, whether there's someone here or not.

[Emurlahn]

I'm here for abit while I eat my tea

[Telas]

Seven and a half hours left in the day. I have to go to, I'll try to be on before deadline, but I make no promises on that.

[Galain]

I'm here 5 minutes on my way to bed.

I see from the last few posts it's 4 - 4 Meanas - Korvalain.

Sadly, I don't have time to catch up the whole thread so I'm not sure where the Korvalain thing comes from. I guess it must be for cult, which is not my #1 gut instinct but better IMO than Ruse.

One thing I thought is that Shadow suggests a guard action to explain only one kill. This further makes sense if the guard went for the logical target, which would have been Meanas. I guess he can do that again and see if there's a NK. Ivets are almost down, we need to find cult.

vote Korvalain

to trust you for now, and in case you need all the small change for the lynch. Tomorrow/Sunday at the latest I'll do my promised re-read if today's lynch is not conclusive.

I'm out

[Path-Shaper]

it is day 4, you have 7 hours remaining.

There are 14 players remaining. 8 for a lynch, 7 to go to night.

5 votes for korvalain (Liosan, shadow, gamelon, hoods path, galain)
4 vote for ruse (telas, tennes, fener, meanas)
1 votes for meanas (emurlahn)

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 14 November 2008 - 10:58 PM

[Emurlahn]

Well looks like there's not much point on me keeping my vote on Meanas as noone else seems to share my view that he's a bit scummy. The trouble is although Ruse has been raising my hackles slightly and the points against him are ones i find that i do agree with, There is a point that Korvalain's low posting does make him a good target for possesion, so at the moment I will think on it a bit but I can see the merit in either lynch.

[Shadow]

Emurlahn, on Nov 14 2008, 06:18 PM, said:

Well looks like there's not much point on me keeping my vote on Meanas as noone else seems to share my view that he's a bit scummy. The trouble is although Ruse has been raising my hackles slightly and the points against him are ones i find that i do agree with, There is a point that Korvalain's low posting does make him a good target for possesion, so at the moment I will think on it a bit but I can see the merit in either lynch.

Actually, HP has Meanas as his prime target. I'm not opposed to lynching him, see my exchange with HP. But I think the Korvalain case removes a possible silent predator, and the Ruse case has enough people who see him as evil. As long as both stand, there seems no way that a Meanas lynch will top these two.

[Fener]

Finally back, will catch up now.