[amphibian]

I don't think Stover advocates for any particular government style - just the demolition of corporate rule and destruction of the caste system.

Also, go wrestle instead of hitting people. Iranian wrestling is some of my favorite stuff to watch, especially Reza Yazdani with his step on foot single legs.

[Abyss]

It's kind of difficult to put a solid interpretation on Stover's views on gov and so on. It comes up in the later books too.
Just take from it what you will but don't overthink it, because just when you think you get it he'll subvert what you thought.

[Salt-Man Z]

I've always been under the impression that Stover wants you to figure out what you want, rather than figure out what he wants.

[EmperorMagus]

Salt-Man Z, on 18 September 2014 - 08:59 PM, said:

I've always been under the impression that Stover wants you to figure out what you want, rather than figure out what he wants.

Well, I agree with you on this point, but there have been sections in the books where he metaphorically pisses on the concept of social justice, don't know what to think of that.

[Abyss]

EmperorMagus, on 18 September 2014 - 09:08 PM, said:

Salt-Man Z, on 18 September 2014 - 08:59 PM, said:

I've always been under the impression that Stover wants you to figure out what you want, rather than figure out what he wants.

Well, I agree with you on this point, but there have been sections in the books where he metaphorically pisses on the concept of social justice, don't know what to think of that.

Speculating, but if think it ties to the failure of the weak to actually work to gain what they want.The corollary being that those who gain what they want at the expense of others aren't worthy of getting what they want. Which is part of Caine's problem after a long history of doing just that.

[End of Disc One]

So I started Blade of Tyshalle, and I'm enjoying it quite a bit but I have a question for those who have a physical copy.

Those snippets between chapters...are they meant to be at the beginning of a chapter or the end of it? Just wondering if when I set the book aside at the end of a chapter, should I read that bit or save it until I pick the book back up again. How do they appear in a physical copy?

[End of Disc One]

Fuck you very much

[Abyss]

MODGOD NOTICE OF KINDLY ALL GO FUCK YOURSELVES. CARRY ON.

[End of Disc One]

I love seeing bad things happen to Caine, because you just know that he will stop at nothing to get his vengeance.

BoT spoilers

Spoiler

So far Shanks and Leisureman Vilo have it coming. And Tan'elKoth and Kollberg, although Hari doesn't know it yet. I can't believe I actually enjoyed watching his daughter get taken...just because I like seeing Caine get pissed off. I can't wait to see things play out.

Fuck.

[acesn8s]

End of Disc One, on 18 November 2014 - 06:09 PM, said:

I love seeing bad things happen to Caine, because you just know that he will stop at nothing to get his vengeance.

BoT spoilers

Spoiler

So far Shanks and Leisureman Vilo have it coming. And Tan'elKoth and Kollberg, although Hari doesn't know it yet. I can't believe I actually enjoyed watching his daughter get taken...just because I like seeing Caine get pissed off. I can't wait to see things play out.

Fuck.

Oh hell no, you fuckin' didn't!

[Abyss]

acesn8s, on 18 November 2014 - 08:01 PM, said:

End of Disc One, on 18 November 2014 - 06:09 PM, said:

I love seeing bad things happen to Caine, because you just know that he will stop at nothing to get his vengeance.

BoT spoilers

Spoiler

So far Shanks and Leisureman Vilo have it coming. And Tan'elKoth and Kollberg, although Hari doesn't know it yet. I can't believe I actually enjoyed watching his daughter get taken...just because I like seeing Caine get pissed off. I can't wait to see things play out.

Fuck.

Oh hell no, you fuckin' didn't!

The fuck he did. And I totally agree with the sentiment. ... It's like the worse it gets the better because you know the fight back is going to be epic fucking epicness.
And then it's even better.

[Tattersail_]

murphy72, on 16 November 2008 - 08:07 PM, said:

QUOTE (Briar King @ Nov 16 2008, 11:45 AM) HD & BoT were fucking uber badass reads. I loved them.

I will wait until this one comes out in pb though before I get it as my other two are pb's.


It's already out in trade (large) paperback.

I wish I had these back then. I have them now on my Kindle and it is totally worth paying the money to get them. I love Caine, I love the concept, I love everything about these books.

[Tattersail_]

Alrin, on 10 January 2011 - 09:43 AM, said:

OverWorld.tv has gone live!

I clicked this link but it says recently expired.

[Tattersail_]

Abyss, on 19 November 2014 - 02:23 AM, said:

acesn8s, on 18 November 2014 - 08:01 PM, said:

End of Disc One, on 18 November 2014 - 06:09 PM, said:

I love seeing bad things happen to Caine, because you just know that he will stop at nothing to get his vengeance.

BoT spoilers

Spoiler

So far Shanks and Leisureman Vilo have it coming. And Tan'elKoth and Kollberg, although Hari doesn't know it yet. I can't believe I actually enjoyed watching his daughter get taken...just because I like seeing Caine get pissed off. I can't wait to see things play out.

Fuck.

Oh hell no, you fuckin' didn't!

The fuck he did. And I totally agree with the sentiment. ... It's like the worse it gets the better because you know the fight back is going to be epic fucking epicness.
And then it's even better.

Just imagine all the movies you ever saw and imagine the people in them as Actors! Like it actually happened! What! Die Hard, somewhere on some world there is a John McClane. Somewhere else, there is a Rocky and a Rambo. Dutch from Predator. Yet then again there is a Hans Gruber and Predator!

[Tattersail_]

Pig Iron, on 16 June 2011 - 08:20 PM, said:

I always hear this really embarassing hard rock ballad thing with "I want it all I want it now" in my head when reading these threads. Next Stover, next Butcher, next Bakker, next Morgan. Fuck.

Looks like I am going to read Morgan next

[Tattersail_]

Abyss, on 14 March 2012 - 02:18 PM, said:

Salt-Man Z, on 13 March 2012 - 10:16 PM, said:

Yeah, the Look Inside feature generally lets you preview the majority of the book, with the occasional section of chapter left FUCKING missing, and usually the ending is omitted too. I read the Caine's Law "prologue" (I guess you would call it) but as soon as I saw the "pages 10-12 are not included in this preview" I was content to stop. FUCK.

Three weeks from today; I can hardly FUCKING wait.

Fucking fixed. We have fucking standards in this thread, y'know.

For fuck sake Abyss, edit my fucking posts already. You're fucking slacking you duck arse fuck

[champ]

Tattersail_, on 19 November 2014 - 10:27 AM, said:

murphy72, on 16 November 2008 - 08:07 PM, said:

QUOTE (Briar King @ Nov 16 2008, 11:45 AM) HD & BoT were fucking uber badass reads. I loved them.

I will wait until this one comes out in pb though before I get it as my other two are pb's.


It's already out in trade (large) paperback.

I wish I had these back then. I have them now on my Kindle and it is totally worth paying the money to get them. I love Caine, I love the concept, I love everything about these books.

Tattersail_, on 19 November 2014 - 10:43 AM, said:

Alrin, on 10 January 2011 - 09:43 AM, said:

OverWorld.tv has gone live!

I clicked this link but it says recently expired.

Tattersail_, on 19 November 2014 - 10:48 AM, said:

Abyss, on 19 November 2014 - 02:23 AM, said:

acesn8s, on 18 November 2014 - 08:01 PM, said:

End of Disc One, on 18 November 2014 - 06:09 PM, said:

I love seeing bad things happen to Caine, because you just know that he will stop at nothing to get his vengeance.

BoT spoilers

Spoiler

So far Shanks and Leisureman Vilo have it coming. And Tan'elKoth and Kollberg, although Hari doesn't know it yet. I can't believe I actually enjoyed watching his daughter get taken...just because I like seeing Caine get pissed off. I can't wait to see things play out.

Fuck.

Oh hell no, you fuckin' didn't!

The fuck he did. And I totally agree with the sentiment. ... It's like the worse it gets the better because you know the fight back is going to be epic fucking epicness.
And then it's even better.

Just imagine all the movies you ever saw and imagine the people in them as Actors! Like it actually happened! What! Die Hard, somewhere on some world there is a John McClane. Somewhere else, there is a Rocky and a Rambo. Dutch from Predator. Yet then again there is a Hans Gruber and Predator!

Tattersail_, on 19 November 2014 - 11:58 AM, said:

Pig Iron, on 16 June 2011 - 08:20 PM, said:

I always hear this really embarassing hard rock ballad thing with "I want it all I want it now" in my head when reading these threads. Next Stover, next Butcher, next Bakker, next Morgan. Fuck.

Looks like I am going to read Morgan next

Epic fucking fail...

[Mcardle]

Fucking fuck fuck! Just finished B.O.T and wholly hell thats a fucking fantastic book! Thank the Abyss for bringing that series to my attention!!! I do have to admit I totally lost any idea of what the Caine mirror is and where it came from though? Any kind souls want to help me comprehend?

[Abyss]

Mcardle, on 17 February 2015 - 04:02 PM, said:

Fucking fuck fuck! Just finished B.O.T and wholly hell thats a fucking fantastic book! Thank the Abyss for bringing that series to my attention!!! I do have to admit I totally lost any idea of what the Caine mirror is and where it came from though? Any kind souls want to help me comprehend?

So glad you enjoyed.
CAINE BLACK KNIFE and CAINE'S LAW are wholly worth your time/brainz/dollars as well.

Sadly, i'm blanking on the mirror thing. Fuck. Can you add a detail?

[Salt-Man Z]

Abyss, on 17 February 2015 - 06:06 PM, said:

Sadly, i'm blanking on the mirror thing. Fuck. Can you add a detail?

That was the device Raith used to torture Caine, right?