[Volkh]

Ok this is my 1st post so what's up peeps!!! I have only this summer found out about Steven Erikson and have devoured series up to Toll of the Hounds.

I need to re-read the last 150 or so pages just to get everything strait but i'm just wondering this:

Alot of people are wondering and speculating what people like Drac and Alpasar( ya ya i suck at spelling and don't feel like looking them up right now bc i feel like dog poo poo ) are going to do now that they are out of Rake's sword. Last I remember Hood and Rake were still walking in the sword so wouldn't they be free to leave as well?

just wondering...

volkh

[Aral Fayle]

Welcome fellow newcomer!

Other forum members will be able to explain it much much better than I can, but here it goes. Rake is actually gone. He sacrificed himself inside dragnipur and rejoined Mother Dark. I don't remember much about Hood, but i feel as if he is still alive. Alot of hood's army and the various demons/residents of dragnipur are also gone, devoured by the chaos (such as Pearl :'( - I actually really liked Pearl from the shot dialogues we got). As for the rest, we can only speculate that they will end up some where in the world.

This post has been edited by Aral Fayle: 30 October 2008 - 04:59 AM

[Aptorian]

I think it's Vorcan that close to the end is wondering where the sword will spill out into the world. So a couple of gods, demons and other awesome things are going to be set loose. Then Draconus will probably kill them again

Weere ApsalarImass went is anyones guess. SHe's probably trying to find a way into Moons spawn as we speak

[Silencer]

Love to see her try! Couple of thousand leagues under the ocean somewhere, probably crushed into breaking...except for the burial room, of course.

Yes, it is quite a mystery. Will they return where they died? Will they just turn up somewhere random? Wherever the location of Dragnipur's wagon coincided with in the 'real world'? Hopefully we'll find out in DoD.

[Traveller]

They'll probably all pile out into Thordys garden.

I wonder if anything different will happen to Apsalara as she was the only one to break her chains? And, do we know whos 'familiar' voice asked her to steal the eye?

[Aptorian]

Draconus or the CG me thinks.

[Volkh]

That's right i remember now about rake joining mother dark... ok thats cool ..

[cerveza_fiesta]

I didn't really get the bit earlier in the book where Rake has to ease the weight of the thing so he unslings it and sets it in the stone under Black Coral.

Endest silann said something about the stone not being able to bear the weight of it for long. I didn't really get what that was about.

[Lisheo]

The sword is essentially the weight of Darkness I assume, so in order to even want to wield it, you've got to be damn capable. Its like a security set-up Draconus built into it. And Rake had to, for a moment, put the sword down on that rock thing, which I assume is part of Burn. He was tired.

[Aptorian]

Some kind of magical stress. Not actual weight but something that affects stuff none the less.

[Traveller]

And, Rake uses considerable effort to conceal Dragnipurs' true image... in Daru, he starts to let it slip, and the chains branch out and out, until they fill the whole street behind him - the power and pressure knocks walls over and blows mortar about.

When Hood is killed, the additional weight of all of the dead armies fill the sword as well as Hood - which drives Rake slowly to his knees. How he managed to lift it to fight Traveller is incredible. The fact that the weight of the sword made the stone sweat shows how strong Rake is to carry it all the time.

It's weight is usually described as a vast pressure - it makes Baruks roof groan even back in GotM.

This post has been edited by Traveller: 30 October 2008 - 12:21 PM

[Volkh]

When Mother Dark is in the sword damn strait it's gonna be hard to carry.

[Aptorian]

There's some kind of "yo mama" joke hidden in that post

EDIT: Wait, here it comes

Mother Dark is so fat that when she cut herself she bled darkchocolate.

[cerveza_fiesta]

I thought he let the chains out on purpose to increase the pressure and douse the gas fires in daruj.

Was it actually just a side effect or was he trying to save the city?

[Volkh]

Aptorian, on Oct 30 2008, 07:51 AM, said:

There's some kind of "yo mama" joke hidden in that post

EDIT: Wait, here it comes

Mother Dark is so fat that when she cut herself she bled darkchocolate.

haha Mother Dark is so fat she uses an Azath for a tampon!!!

[Osric]

Mother Dark is so fat, she didn't create light, she was just sitting on it.


Anyway, I think the chains are an ability of the sword, not something that's always there but hidden. I wonder if the entire realm is now gone.. Anyone know?

[Lisheo]

Well, chains sprouted from the wagon(the Gate of Darkness) so it could be pulled, and so I would assume the chains are something to do with the Gate of Darkness itself then.

[Traveller]

I thought there was a description of Draconus forging those chains with Burns Hammer, and using the remaining Blackwood trees to make the wagon itself.

And yes, Rake let the pressure and cold from KG spread to stop the fires, and stop them from igniting more gas chambers.

This post has been edited by Traveller: 31 October 2008 - 07:51 AM

[Volkh]

the chains probably had something to do with trapping mother dark in there. we know they were part of the wagon and the fact that it kept moving helped keep MD trapped in there.

[Aptorian]

uhm... no. The chains were what kept the souls trapped in Dragnipur. Mother Dark wasn't caught in Dragnipur, just the gate.