[Path-Shaper]

From Shadow...A 3rd confirm on D'riss...

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Fener appears to be occupied with Liosan
unless he's lying
oh, what the hell

let's try vigging Sylar again

VIG D'RISS

at least afterwards, I can go bac to playing normally..

[Path-Shaper]

From Ruse (now he is all impatient)

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how many are we waiting on?

My reply

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A couple and Gem.... I refuse to end day or night without her...

[Path-Shaper]

Fener

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Hi I would like to memory wipe Liosan for the next period of day, please. I am aware that he is on my team but his current dialogue is both baffling and time consuming. I think his removal from the next day will allow us to better orchestrate our moves and it will provide Liosan with an opportunity to contemplate the error of his ways. If I had the vig powers he would have been dead for some time. If you could somehow empower me with the vigilante night moves as a one of favour or as a trade for my powers for the remainder of the game then I would gladly give them up. It has now become part of my own personal winning condition - Liosan must die.

PS I would also like to write his death scene for when that beautiful moment happens.

PPS Fuck the company!!!

Ahahahahah

[Path-Shaper]

Night actions

Ruse/Bubba/Peter Petrelli: Protecting shadow, telas, and omtose ; killing D'riss
Telas/Q21/Hiro Nakamura: Investigate D'riss
D'riss/J_Slr/Sylar: (used them up to escape)
Meanas/Jump Around/Matt Parkman: (captured)

Mockra/dktorode/Bob Bishop: Tazer Shadow.
Fener/Lacedaemonian/The Haitian: Wipe Liosan for the next day...
Thyrllan/Kurt Montandon/Elle Bishop:
Barghast/Lisheo/Noah Bennet:

Liosan/Grief/Mohinder Suresh: Tazer Telas
Omtose/Tapper/Nathan Petrelli:
Shadow/Mentalist/Niki Sanders aka Jessica: Kill D'riss.

Ruse has 2 capture tokens and one kill token, Driss has one kill token

[Path-Shaper]

From Shadow...

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that neither Ruse nor Telas actuially mention that I'm going for D'riss
I joke around enough to make the Korvy thing stick by myself, I hope.

More shadow

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Peter recruited fener yesterday, no?
that's why he let DiBs die
Fener's playing it reeeal smooth, he even voted Ruse right after me.
wow
i'm so obtuse
I needs moar sleeps... too bad I'll end up going out tonight....

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 04 November 2008 - 08:43 PM

[The Dude]

Path-Shaper, on Nov 4 2008, 11:45 AM, said:

Shadow/Gem/Shadow/Vengeance

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I'm trying my best to help my soon to be former team
sorry, Ruse
I'd love to kill D'riss, but apparently I can't sad.gif

Why not Shadow?

according to D'riss, I am denied that power. He could be lying, but I don't know why he would, since we're supposed to be on same team.
which is why im vigging one of the company's recruits
and I do NOT consider my hammer on my leader (Ruse) as a betrayal, or going against my victory condition
because he told me he was BP
and because I've played all day, up to the end pretending that his recruit failed, distancing myself.

Wait for Gem to get back before you make your choice. I will have her talk to you.

fine
hold kill on D'riss for now.

My reply

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Will do...

Is PS symping Peter????? It sounds like you are trying to get him to vig D'riss. I'm probably reading it wrong, but it seemed like they were having communication issues between themselves. Isn't that their problem?

[Path-Shaper]

Path-Shaper, on Nov 4 2008, 07:36 PM, said:

Uhhhhh Gem This might have been the problem....

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Jessica comes out at night, if you allow her. 3 nights of your choosing, you can kill someone - send a name to the mod. If the targets are Peter Petrelli or Sylar they won't die.

That is probably the problem....Sigh....

Man! I totally forgot I put that there... Hmm, that's a lame rule. What to do...?

The Dude, the reason I asked Shadow was because I got the impression he was knowlingly acting against his own team - I wanted to be sure that wasn't the case.

*sigh* Complicated rules are complicated.

Okay, here's what we'll do - We'll inform Peter, Sylar, Bob and Shadow that Jessica can kill any character when the kill conditions for that character has been forfilled.

Do you think that is okay? It will be the same for all groups then, right, whoever takes the ability.

I'll wait for your input before I do anything.

Or maybe it's a good rule. In which case, the kill token on D'riss should be removed. But actually, I don't think I actually meant for it to mean that they Never died - just not died directly - actually I'm not sure what I meant.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 04 November 2008 - 09:45 PM

[Path-Shaper]

From Omtose:

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No lynch, heh. This should make tomorrow interesting.
I really hope Peter steals powers when he recruits... Go Peter!

No flying by me tonight.

[Path-Shaper]

Liosan:

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Recruit Telas.
Confirmed.

[Path-Shaper]

I have to go, I'll be back in an hour or so, so just hold your horses until then...I need to get on my regular computer so I can check the setup properly.

[The Dude]

Path-Shaper, on Nov 4 2008, 01:37 PM, said:

Path-Shaper, on Nov 4 2008, 07:36 PM, said:

Uhhhhh Gem This might have been the problem....

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Jessica comes out at night, if you allow her. 3 nights of your choosing, you can kill someone - send a name to the mod. If the targets are Peter Petrelli or Sylar they won't die.

That is probably the problem....Sigh....

Man! I totally forgot I put that there... Hmm, that's a lame rule. What to do...?

The Dude, the reason I asked Shadow was because I got the impression he was knowlingly acting against his own team - I wanted to be sure that wasn't the case.

*sigh* Complicated rules are complicated.

Okay, here's what we'll do - We'll inform Peter, Sylar, Bob and Shadow that Jessica can kill any character when the kill conditions for that character has been forfilled.

Do you think that is okay? It will be the same for all groups then, right, whoever takes the ability.

I'll wait for your input before I do anything.

Or maybe it's a good rule. In which case, the kill token on D'riss should be removed. But actually, I don't think I actually meant for it to mean that they Never died - just not died directly - actually I'm not sure what I meant.

I think that its hard to change rules once they have been put in place and have been played with... if they've been playing by that rule all game up til now they should continue.... but then again I am rooting for Sylar and am dead

[Path-Shaper]

Shadow....4th confirmation...

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confirming D'riss for kill
won't be around to wait for Gem, I'm afraid--I got a make-up evening lecture and then a real meeting (when i write that in thread, I mean "lecture"), which MAY (I hope not) turn into an evening out.
so, vig D'riss, and let's see how it feels like to be ordinary again...

[alt146]

I think the bolded bit was to let niki know she had hit a power player after a vig failed. But I can see why Telas interpreted it the way he did. The game would be damn near impossible if the only vig in the game couldn't kill either peter or sylar. A clarification might be a good idea. Although the mods will have to defend the choice to do so, because it will hand the game to peter's faction and everyone else will bitch and moan about how it ruined their chances.

I'm sure once more people will hit spoilers, there will be lots of thoughts regarding the setup itself, so I'll add my two cents in the meantime.

All in all a cool setup, but there should have been some way of stopping people from figuring out who is who so early. Maybe only tell Hiro and Isaac the results of the provisionals currently in - stuff like x will die tonight or y will be joining the company. It would also been more inline with the series, since the paintings were pretty cryptic. And if you do ever rerun this game, you would have to either change Noah and Fener's winning condition, or not tell bob which company man is which.

Otherwise it's a very clever game - I especially liked the way the roles were setup and the access to pms power. It would have been cool if parkman wasnt recruited night one. And if everyone didnt go and mass reveal day two.

This post has been edited by alt146: 04 November 2008 - 10:58 PM

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The Dude, on Nov 4 2008, 11:05 PM, said:

I think that its hard to change rules once they have been put in place and have been played with... if they've been playing by that rule all game up til now they should continue.... but then again I am rooting for Sylar and am dead

It's not like changing the rules, because I was being unclear, it's more like a clarification. As for it benefiting a certain team, I don't think that's the case. Shadow could be killed by Sylar, or captured by company. As it is now, if Shadow became company, he couldn't help take out either Sylar or Peter, and the vig wouldn't transfer to either Sylar or Peter in any way that's meaningful.

It would just be a really bad and sucky setup.

I'm sending the clarification.

[The Dude]

Yeah agreed. It was a cool set up that if it was run again with no knowledge could have gone a totally different way. I would definately be up for a second run at some point with minor tweaking. As it is, looks like its game over. Peter's faction wins along with Emu and Barg and Fener... man, thats a lot of winners.

[The Dude]

Path-Shaper, on Nov 4 2008, 03:02 PM, said:

The Dude, on Nov 4 2008, 11:05 PM, said:

I think that its hard to change rules once they have been put in place and have been played with... if they've been playing by that rule all game up til now they should continue.... but then again I am rooting for Sylar and am dead

It's not like changing the rules, because I was being unclear, it's more like a clarification. As for it benefiting a certain team, I don't think that's the case. Shadow could be killed by Sylar, or captured by company. As it is now, if Shadow became company, he couldn't help take out either Sylar or Peter, and the vig wouldn't transfer to either Sylar or Peter in any way that's meaningful.

It would just be a really bad and sucky setup.

I'm sending the clarification.

Agreed.... just tryin to stick up for my man D'riss

[Path-Shaper]

This is what I sent:

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Clarification due to certain ambiguity that made certain aspects of the game moot and meaningless that was not intended to be moot and meaningless, following clarification have been sent to Bob Bishop, Peter Petrelli, Sylar, and Niki. The mods cannot choose any sides by not making this clarification - it is the mods honest opinion that this is the most fair thing to do under the circumstances.

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Jessica can kill any character when the kill conditions for that character has been fulfilled.

:queen: (<--why did the smilies stop working??)

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 04 November 2008 - 11:11 PM

[Path-Shaper]

Man, with the current setup this game is over...I R sad queen...

[Path-Shaper]

Emur:

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All right.. I don't dare to interfere. Lace seems so focused on Liosan I think I'll risk shadow figuring things out on his own and thus not alert Lace to more than what's necessary.. shit, I feel like since friday/saturday the only thing i could do was to lurk and keep within the mod kill limit.

Anyways, here's fingers crossed

Bargh:

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Capture D'riss

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 04 November 2008 - 11:28 PM

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Night 3 actions:
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Ruse/Bubba/Peter Petrelli: Protecting shadow, telas, and omtose ; killing D'riss
Telas/Q21/Hiro Nakamura: Investigate D'riss
D'riss/J_Slr/Sylar: (used them up to escape)
Meanas/Jump Around/Matt Parkman: (captured)

Mockra/dktorode/Bob Bishop: Tazer Shadow.
Fener/Lacedaemonian/The Haitian:Wipe Liosan for the next day...
Thyrllan/Kurt Montandon/Elle Bishop: tazer Emurlahn.
Barghast/Lisheo/Noah Bennet: tazer D'riss

Liosan/Grief/Mohinder Suresh: Tazer Telas
Omtose/Tapper/Nathan Petrelli: no action
Shadow/Mentalist/Niki Sanders aka Jessica: Kill D'riss.

Ruse has 2 capture tokens and one kill token, Driss has one kill token from previous night

No matter what the company does, this means:
Sylar is killed.
Shadow is recruited to Peter's team.
Telas is captured by company.
Emur is captured by company.
Peter wins.

Since capture happens last, after the other actions, captures does not effect winning conditions. This game is over. I R sad sad mod. And very excited at the same time! Working on end scene now.

This post has been edited by Path-Shaper: 04 November 2008 - 11:31 PM