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Mafia 33 - Heroes: Experiments

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Posted 31 October 2008 - 11:14 AM

View PostSerc, on Oct 31 2008, 07:00 AM, said:

well i have narrowed sylar down to three people. i also think i know who elle is and hiro and bob. like actually knwo not just think, but be pretty confident in my deduction. the thing is if i reveal i am crippling the company and i am sort of relaying on them or peter to save me from head shave too close boy.

The Company can't save you, sadly, unless you mean by taking out Sylar (but then, Claire must die first).

You can still be killed while captured, so unless they have a healer, you're doomed (read as: DHOOOOO-med).

In fact, Bob & Elle may now want to remove you since you know who they are and can reveal it as long as you live, and lynch/vig are far better ways to silence you than capture is... or they may wish to capture you, protect their identity through association, and hope that if Sylar gets you(r powers), he's less observant in guessing who's who than you are... but the safest bet for them is taking you out entirely and make sure your power is no longer in the game.

Bit of a contraproductive broadcast by you there, mate... at least, in my oh so humble opinion.

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Posted 31 October 2008 - 11:19 AM

you didn't read my second post?

i think i have a fair idea of who claire is simply by removing those i think i already know, possibly one or two there. i could provide alist of most likely and we could lynch until claire is dead then go for sylar. its up to yourselves, i may mass reveal my thoughts just to gain some noteriety :thumbsup:

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Posted 31 October 2008 - 11:21 AM

View PostSerc, on Oct 31 2008, 07:07 AM, said:

ok i have a suggestion, its a bit of an odd one, so bear with me. this power of mine is too much, no one has managed to take it, unless sylar has somehow absorbed it witht he stalking, so i think i should be lynched. everyone knows who i am anyway, so you will know i understand how much effort goes into setting a game up and i feel like i am ruining this game for gem and the others watching and its not fair on people. given that i know when people put night actions in and who is on at the time it is relatively easy for me to figure out all your roles and i think with another day i would have it almost totally correct and its just wrong that one player can do that. Given that two factions can harness this power if they get me, its totally a game breaker if i am taken by sylar, even though i know i could possibly lynch them today, i think either you all lynch me, or i ask for a modkill???


Modkill is unnecessary, we don't know what Gem has in store for you/us in the game.
Your power is freakinglishly strong, but there just might be a balance... and I think it is this:

Company can't allow Sylar to be killed now, for Peter would win, so if you reveal Sylar, then they're still interested in keeping him around. If they capture him, he's occupied for quite a while still since he needs to escape. So, unless Hiro must kill Sylar or another vig must for their personal victory condition (or, horror, Peter has a vig), revealing Sylar and watch him get captured makes sure the game continues since you force the Company's hand... they can't recruit all the players to their side in the time it takes Sylar to escape (no, I'm not company).

It is a fricking huge gamble to take, but better than a modkill.

I'm willing to vote for you though, if you push this through... but by making us lynch you, at the least you know that the majority of the players agrees with your assessment of the situation.

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Posted 31 October 2008 - 11:23 AM

View PostSerc, on Oct 31 2008, 07:19 AM, said:

you didn't read my second post?

i think i have a fair idea of who claire is simply by removing those i think i already know, possibly one or two there. i could provide alist of most likely and we could lynch until claire is dead then go for sylar. its up to yourselves, i may mass reveal my thoughts just to gain some noteriety :thumbsup:

I did now :p

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Posted 31 October 2008 - 11:23 AM

so do you want to hear my lists then? i dont mind but i just feel like there isnt going to be normal discussion as things stand.

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Posted 31 October 2008 - 11:24 AM

Fire out the list mate. I want to see how it stands with my own suspicions.
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Posted 31 October 2008 - 11:24 AM

View PostSerc, on Oct 31 2008, 07:23 AM, said:

so do you want to hear my lists then? i dont mind but i just feel like there isnt going to be normal discussion as things stand.

Not yet, anyway. I'm just one person, there's 14 around still, I would like their thoughts first.

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Posted 31 October 2008 - 11:25 AM

Serc, give us the names of your Sylar suspects. Also if company take you then you lose your powers right? Surely there are people who have healing powers who can protect you? I am sure Matt Parkman and co are looking for Sylar and the Haitian must be looking to block Sylar too. So much going on!!! Peter must also fancy saving you which would be a huge risk to Sylar if he keeps gunning for you.

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Posted 31 October 2008 - 11:30 AM

View PostFener, on Oct 31 2008, 07:25 AM, said:

Serc, give us the names of your Sylar suspects. Also if company take you then you lose your powers right? Surely there are people who have healing powers who can protect you? I am sure Matt Parkman and co are looking for Sylar and the Haitian must be looking to block Sylar too. So much going on!!! Peter must also fancy saving you which would be a huge risk to Sylar if he keeps gunning for you.


Peter cannot save captured people, so that is one avenue that is closed.
Sylar is the danger only because he becomes overpowerful when he has Serc's action, not because it brings him so close to immediate victory, he still needs 2 people dead, that will take time; a day after absorbtion to figure out who's who, 2 nights to kill, but the spirit on topic will become maybe a tad bit defeatist.

The risk with revealing the entire list is that play will be tainted by it, no matter what happens (modkill, lynch).
If the game is to continue without as little disruption as possible to the setting, no list-reveal + lynch Serc would guarantee that.
If the game is to continue with Serc still around, capture of Sylar would be the best option, imho.

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Posted 31 October 2008 - 11:31 AM

sylar - fener, korvalain, shadow

to balance it

elle is most likely thyrllan

i never got anything for peter so cant comment on him as his list is just people i suspect elsewhere removed, and i dont want to give anyone else away just yet

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Posted 31 October 2008 - 11:34 AM

How likely is it that Liosan is really Mohinder, Serc?
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Posted 31 October 2008 - 11:34 AM

Well, 1 out of 3 is pretty nice and won't give immediate victory to any single faction unless by a lucky shot.
Fener has been the target of a find, though... so if Hiro needs Sylar dead for a personal vc and Fener is Sylar, then revealing may be his best option, unlikely as that may sound :thumbsup:

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Posted 31 October 2008 - 11:36 AM

tbh my biggest suspect for sylar is actually shadow. when i first painted he seemed determined to belive he was on the chopping block, but joked about it more than anything. Due to his high post count though he is active during a lot of the time when i recieve my visions, and is subsequently a possible on a good few lists. Korv and fener though are not, and so are on less lists.

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Posted 31 October 2008 - 11:39 AM

he can prove it, if he posts his action in thread and i recive the pm i can confirm it with painting. he was on my short list for mohinder as i had almost half the players as a target to paint for mohinder. We also can remove the two players who have died, so liosan is one of five maybe for that role without proof. with proof he is certain.

so if liosan send in a night action, i will tell when i recieve it, he fills int he blanks, i confirm. We have our mohinder. Likewise if you reveal soemone(your a finder obviously or partnered to someone you think is safe to reveal) i can confirm if they have a power.

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Posted 31 October 2008 - 11:47 AM

View PostSerc, on Oct 31 2008, 11:31 AM, said:

sylar - fener, korvalain, shadow

to balance it

elle is most likely thyrllan

i never got anything for peter so cant comment on him as his list is just people i suspect elsewhere removed, and i dont want to give anyone else away just yet



Well I am not Sylar so that narrows the possibility down to two - presuming you are right. I was thinking Elle had to be Thyrllan due to post timings last night. Seemed too obvious.

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Posted 31 October 2008 - 11:50 AM

unless thyrllan is playing the sneakiest game ever, or the mods send actions to me at weird times it is highly likely.

anyone want to know who other players probably are :thumbsup:

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Posted 31 October 2008 - 11:53 AM

I have a list of educated guesses.

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Posted 31 October 2008 - 11:56 AM

Well, if you really need another claim to fame... :thumbsup:

But I'd talk to Gem first, it's her game, she laboured very long on it and if she feels this ruins it, then better not.
I found the game highly enjoyable so far, would hate if it all came crashing down. A mass reveal by you would take away a large part of the suspense, to be honest. If you like the tingling feeling of shadow knives slicing just below the skin in flaying motions, do as you please, though.

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Posted 31 October 2008 - 11:58 AM

i did - she told me to stop being a twonk and its her game and she made it...i feel small :thumbsup:

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Posted 31 October 2008 - 12:06 PM

What are your Peter suspects?

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