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Mafia 33 - Heroes: Experiments

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 08:01 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if they were both bluffing, to be honest. Look at them. And also, Fener may have been talking about an alt guess, while Mockra knows Emurlahn's character.
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Posted 29 October 2008 - 08:04 PM

I don't think Fener's was an alt guess because of the fact that it was followed up with a question about what Omtose is, not who Omtose is as I would expect for an alt guess.

Want to see their comments on that.

Edit: changed some bold to underlining so the mod won't hurt me.

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 08:06 PM

View PostBarghast, on Oct 29 2008, 09:52 PM, said:

I am concerned about Peter not putting any provisonals in, and the same with Adam. Those two may have been put off by the way Noah's supposedly secret provisional got read out to the class.


Not sure about Adam, but the thought has crossed my mind that Serc might be withholding Peter's actions.
So far he has given us actions for Noah, Sylar, hiro and Mohinder.
Now Hiro and Mohinder seem somewhat harmless, a healer and a finder.

But both Noah and Sylar are faction um..recruiters? Company gets you and you lose your power, Sylar gets you and you die, but win with him.
Now lets face it neither of those options are very appealing. Being dead means you can not play and not having your power means you are just an average boring joe....
So I would not be surprised if Serc is withholding Peter's action in attempt to get saved by him.

Another thing that has been bugging me. If you are a normal powerless person, like Simone or Ando, what happens when you get caught by the company? The heroes can obviously trade a night action and get out, but these players have no such option. So are they immune to capture or are they then forced to betray thier other half and stick with the company?

Edit: more fucking crosspostage....

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 08:07 PM

Perhaps they have actions of some form. Noah has no powers, yet he can still capture. For all we know Ando can pull out a sword and vig kill someone.

EDIT: Ugh, I dislike posting so much, but no one is contributing other than the same old people.

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 08:09 PM

there are a few paitnings i didnt draw, but people didnt do anything in them and so i didnt want to waste my time or yours trying to figure out how to paint them. i will post anything from the major characters, unless peter is saving me in which case i dont want to tell sylar i am being saved as then i will join peters team, and will try to lynch sylar to win :( this hasnt happened, which worries me a lot :)

certain actions though it is handy i think having someone announce them anono for you like healing or something. i get the feeling that good characters, or what i percieve to be good characters are uncaring that we know their actions, as it will probably help any claims later in the game, and lets people know that they may have an ally somewhere. If someone knows they are being investigated and have a good role they wont mind if they think the person investigating them is a good character.

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 08:13 PM

View PostPath-Shaper, on Oct 28 2008, 12:31 AM, said:

Bob Bishop and other company players can capture players. When you are captured, you cannot be protected by Peter Petrelli, and you don't count as saved. But you can still be killed. If you are captured and have an ability, you can't use your abilities while in captivity - but you can trade your night actions for an escape - which means you can't use your night actions the day and night following the escape.


Look at the underlined, maybe I missed it when I was catching up, but does that sound like the company can recruit multiple characters a night?

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 08:13 PM

Well, if Mohinder can heal multiple, I don't see why they can't.
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Posted 29 October 2008 - 08:14 PM

View PostD'riss, on Oct 29 2008, 08:06 PM, said:

View PostBarghast, on Oct 29 2008, 09:52 PM, said:

I am concerned about Peter not putting any provisonals in, and the same with Adam. Those two may have been put off by the way Noah's supposedly secret provisional got read out to the class.


Not sure about Adam, but the thought has crossed my mind that Serc might be withholding Peter's actions.
So far he has given us actions for Noah, Sylar, hiro and Mohinder.
Now Hiro and Mohinder seem somewhat harmless, a healer and a finder.

But both Noah and Sylar are faction um..recruiters? Company gets you and you lose your power, Sylar gets you and you die, but win with him.
Now lets face it neither of those options are very appealing. Being dead means you can not play and not having your power means you are just an average boring joe....
So I would not be surprised if Serc is withholding Peter's action in attempt to get saved by him.

Another thing that has been bugging me. If you are a normal powerless person, like Simone or Ando, what happens when you get caught by the company? The heroes can obviously trade a night action and get out, but these players have no such option. So are they immune to capture or are they then forced to betray thier other half and stick with the company?

Edit: more fucking crosspostage....



i actually posted about this!!! i wondered why i know who simone is but cant comms with her off thread and dont have any winning conditions which is worrying. if she does have any, does she have an abiltiy regarding me? in the show i learned to control my power after joining the company, so person she has a way of making me join???

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 08:15 PM

View PostD'riss, on Oct 29 2008, 08:13 PM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on Oct 28 2008, 12:31 AM, said:

Bob Bishop and other company players can capture players. When you are captured, you cannot be protected by Peter Petrelli, and you don't count as saved. But you can still be killed. If you are captured and have an ability, you can't use your abilities while in captivity - but you can trade your night actions for an escape - which means you can't use your night actions the day and night following the escape.


Look at the underlined, maybe I missed it when I was catching up, but does that sound like the company can recruit multiple characters a night?


i think we discussed this, if they couldnt then if noah died the company would be screwed so its unlikely. perhaps they have a single recruit a night and an order of action, so noah is recruiter till he dies and the power passes along the chain as the company goes. if its founders die, maybe the company does.

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 08:19 PM

Oh then I guess I should have spent an extra hour catching up then :(

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 08:19 PM

View PostSerc, on Oct 29 2008, 04:09 PM, said:

there are a few paitnings i didnt draw, but people didnt do anything in them and so i didnt want to waste my time or yours trying to figure out how to paint them. i will post anything from the major characters, unless peter is saving me in which case i dont want to tell sylar i am being saved as then i will join peters team, and will try to lynch sylar to win :( this hasnt happened, which worries me a lot :)

certain actions though it is handy i think having someone announce them anono for you like healing or something. i get the feeling that good characters, or what i percieve to be good characters are uncaring that we know their actions, as it will probably help any claims later in the game, and lets people know that they may have an ally somewhere. If someone knows they are being investigated and have a good role they wont mind if they think the person investigating them is a good character.



lol, and how do we know who's good and who's evil, exactly?
apart from Sylar, ofc.

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 08:21 PM

i love broadband, not using smellberry is so nice :(

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 08:24 PM

View PostSerc, on Oct 29 2008, 04:21 PM, said:

i love broadband, not using smellberry is so nice :(



*is envious and hateful*
I don't think I can handle dealing with my ISP today... it'll have to wait till tomorrow, :)

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 08:25 PM

We guess the winning conditions.

For example, in the shows, adam is trying to kill everyone, and therefore can be seen as evil. Yes the "cults" try to do the same, to control the game/beat the others, but anyone in them wins, whereas if adams win condition is kill everyone, and he wins, no one else does.

None of the cults are really "evil" although sylars is obviously bad because you die, and the companies cuase you lose your power.
The most dangerous people to everyone else seem to be those whose win conditions we dont know.

Also, some roles can be seen as less evil, as they are by nature trying to find the "evil" people, or save people etc.

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 08:28 PM

View PostSerc, on Oct 29 2008, 08:15 PM, said:

View PostD'riss, on Oct 29 2008, 08:13 PM, said:

View PostPath-Shaper, on Oct 28 2008, 12:31 AM, said:

Bob Bishop and other company players can capture players. When you are captured, you cannot be protected by Peter Petrelli, and you don't count as saved. But you can still be killed. If you are captured and have an ability, you can't use your abilities while in captivity - but you can trade your night actions for an escape - which means you can't use your night actions the day and night following the escape.


Look at the underlined, maybe I missed it when I was catching up, but does that sound like the company can recruit multiple characters a night?


i think we discussed this, if they couldnt then if noah died the company would be screwed so its unlikely. perhaps they have a single recruit a night and an order of action, so noah is recruiter till he dies and the power passes along the chain as the company goes. if its founders die, maybe the company does.


I agree with this point of view. Multiple recruiting is retardedly over powered.

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 08:31 PM

Especially since they stop others powers working.
Yes, we know mohinder can heal multiple people.
Perhaps other characters can affect multiple people aswell.

But if you recruit multiple people, and stop them using their multiple abilities it is a massive advantage.

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 08:34 PM

not to mention the game could end VERY soon if the do that...

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 08:35 PM

Yes, thats true. More than one would give them a huge majority.

Edit: Well, it would quickly. Even with 2 recruits, thered be able to have 6 day 2, 8 day 2. At that point they could take it to night and have a majority. And thats assuming no one dies.

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 08:36 PM

But if you can just trade a night action to escape the company, multiple recruiting would make sense.

I might be mistaken, but wasn't the company there to control people with these powers?
Which would mean that just preventing them from using any powers is achieving this.

Edit: Cross post again. I see your points. nvm me.

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 08:37 PM

mohinder though isnt a mutant so his abilty shouldnt be affected by joining the company. therefore if he is set against adam - then adams mission probably revolves around killing hiro and mohinder???

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