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Mafia 33 - Heroes: Experiments

#621 User is offline   Serc 

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 04:00 PM

peter does seem to be the exception but in truth its a lie. If we lynch peter day 1, the victory conditions for the company change so they need recruit every surviving power. While sylar only needs claire. at this point peter can win if sylar is killed, and sylar can win if claire is killed. So where does that leave us? we cant take out sylar, or peter wins (and no one will be in his faction), we cant take out claire or sylar wins. thinking about it fromt hw winnign conditions i know taking out peter first makes sylar or peter the only possible victors. Realistically speaking sylar will eventually get claire, or someone will eventually get sylar.

So lynching peter is a big no no until both claire and sylar are dead. which means we are again relying on the company.

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 04:02 PM

View PostOmtose, on Oct 29 2008, 04:55 PM, said:

Isaac's ex girlfriend, who then dated Peter. Got shot by Isaac by accident in one of the last episodes, series 1, irrc.



shoooo, for a second i thought she was that shape shifter chick.

Last thing we need is a goddamn shapem shifter role running around.


alright guys...i have to go ...will be back in 16 hours or so.

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 04:04 PM

View PostMockra, on Oct 29 2008, 03:54 PM, said:

View PostOmtose, on Oct 29 2008, 04:46 PM, said:

Why Simone is in the game, I really, really don't know. I tied her initially down to a victory condition for Isaac, but mainly because I have no clue why she is here.



who is Simone again?


they can alt reveal themselves if they want, i wouldnt recommend it given their lack of power they will be no target for anyone. i cant see what sort of hidden objective simone could have. Considering mohinder doesnt have abilities it seems the non powered players must be the ones with over riding objectives. the company isnt really looking for them, sylar and peter wont be able to gain anything by taking powers from them as they dont have any so they cant really join a faction in the same way the rest of us can.

maybe simone has an objective relatingto me getting captured thus cured of junk as in the show???

ando - maybe saving hiro from sylar somehow??

mohinder - saving the world from adam

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 04:09 PM

Shadow 119
Serc 111
Emurlahn 81
Barghast 59
Mockra 49
Liosan 42
Omtose 42
Fener 41
Korvalain 19
Galain 15
Meanas 11
Ruse 11
D'riss 9
Path-Shaper 8
Telas 4
Thyrllan 2


holy fuck i barely remember shadow posting beyond trying to decipher my pics !!!! thats 60x more than the lowest poster, i am pretty bad myself but thats got to be a record for before the game actually starts :(

anywyas got to go home - back on in the morning maybe with more pics, but i doubt anyone is going to send in provisionals now they know i can see them.

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 04:13 PM

View PostOmtose, on Oct 29 2008, 03:02 AM, said:

Oh, nice, the Darkness.

Sylar celeries Galain? :)



NOOOO!!!!!!! I guess its fine if he absorbs me...kills me..whatever he does...But I swear to god if Sylar Celeries me... I will have a vendetta against whoever does this for the rest of my mafia career. No one Celeries me!!!!! :( ;)

catching up right now. Only six pages this morning :)

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 04:19 PM

View PostSerc, on Oct 29 2008, 12:04 PM, said:

View PostMockra, on Oct 29 2008, 03:54 PM, said:

View PostOmtose, on Oct 29 2008, 04:46 PM, said:

Why Simone is in the game, I really, really don't know. I tied her initially down to a victory condition for Isaac, but mainly because I have no clue why she is here.



who is Simone again?


they can alt reveal themselves if they want, i wouldnt recommend it given their lack of power they will be no target for anyone. i cant see what sort of hidden objective simone could have. Considering mohinder doesnt have abilities it seems the non powered players must be the ones with over riding objectives. the company isnt really looking for them, sylar and peter wont be able to gain anything by taking powers from them as they dont have any so they cant really join a faction in the same way the rest of us can.

maybe simone has an objective relatingto me getting captured thus cured of junk as in the show???

ando - maybe saving hiro from sylar somehow??

mohinder - saving the world from adam

Ehm, Mohinder has the curing ability, no? Even if it only goes against Adam, it is still an ability. Also, if the virus wasn't important for Adam or if it was not a better way to victory for him, why would the ability be there in the first place? He'd be much less circumspect if he would not use it if he can't win through it himself, and by not using it, he'd deny Mohinder victory. 2 birds with one stone. I really think the additional victory condition is for Adam, or for both Mohinder and Adam, but not just for Mohinder.

Also, powerless people can get captured by the company or saved by Peter, I guess, at the least until it becomes known they lack power.

This post has been edited by Omtose: 29 October 2008 - 04:20 PM


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Posted 29 October 2008 - 04:21 PM

View PostLiosan, on Oct 28 2008, 08:16 PM, said:

Poor company lol, no one gives a shit about them.


OK, I trying to do a read up, but I ran out of time as I reached post 400.

I'll finish later, but I just want to point out that Liosan is obviously Company.

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 04:24 PM

View PostSerc, on Oct 29 2008, 04:00 PM, said:

peter does seem to be the exception but in truth its a lie. If we lynch peter day 1, the victory conditions for the company change so they need recruit every surviving power. While sylar only needs claire. at this point peter can win if sylar is killed, and sylar can win if claire is killed. So where does that leave us? we cant take out sylar, or peter wins (and no one will be in his faction), we cant take out claire or sylar wins. thinking about it fromt hw winnign conditions i know taking out peter first makes sylar or peter the only possible victors. Realistically speaking sylar will eventually get claire, or someone will eventually get sylar.

So lynching peter is a big no no until both claire and sylar are dead. which means we are again relying on the company.


From the rules
Sylar can kill players. If you are killed by Sylar, you become a part of him, and win when he wins. The exception is Peter Petrelli and Claire Bennet. Sylar wins when Peter Petrelli and Claire Bennet are both dead.
Sylar needs both Claire and Peter dead for him to win, Also as it states in Peter's description that he doesn't have to be alive to win, I assume that Sylar loses if he is killed.

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 04:25 PM

View PostEmurlahn, on Oct 29 2008, 06:22 AM, said:

Ok..

you people are all idiots, just let me get that out first and foremost. Honestly.

all right:
Noah captures Liosan
Hiro investigates Liosan
The indian guy (no, i refuse to atempt the spelling) heals/cures Omtose, Shadow and Emurlahn... Man I'm fucking popular

Sylar hunts/stores (universal darkness? or tonight?) Galain. Serc suggests Sylar needs to prepare night 1 in order to kill night 2, much like the FM in 17 and 31.

Correct?


Posting as I read here... I think I need to go over my posts to see what I said that pissed off Sylar. I thought I had been pretty quiet to this point. Hit a Nerve or Possibly not Galain... I am not familiar enough the aspects of each warren to pull them off the top of my head.

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 04:28 PM

Well at this point i think that Sylar has nothing to lose really by just randomly targetting people and hoping he hits someone interesting.

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 04:33 PM

Hello, im here.
Interesting pics.

Apparently im popular :(

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 04:38 PM

Reminder
There will be no lynches until the time has started again. Time will start tonight 10.00 pm GMT
Only someone with this much power could make this many frittatas without breaking any eggs.
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Posted 29 October 2008 - 04:44 PM

@ liosan is there any particular reason you're not a Game alt ?:( or did the powers above forget about you... :)

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 04:47 PM

I explained this earlier...
Its cause im sylar special.

Tell the truth, no Idea.
But its probably Broods fault.

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 04:50 PM

View PostMeanas, on Oct 29 2008, 09:21 AM, said:

View PostLiosan, on Oct 28 2008, 08:16 PM, said:

Poor company lol, no one gives a shit about them.


OK, I trying to do a read up, but I ran out of time as I reached post 400.

I'll finish later, but I just want to point out that Liosan is obviously Company.

Umm, atm from Isaacs paintins it seems they have a provi in to capture me.
As does sylar(I think).

Such fun.

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 05:01 PM

View PostOmtose, on Oct 29 2008, 09:19 AM, said:

View PostSerc, on Oct 29 2008, 12:04 PM, said:

View PostMockra, on Oct 29 2008, 03:54 PM, said:

View PostOmtose, on Oct 29 2008, 04:46 PM, said:

Why Simone is in the game, I really, really don't know. I tied her initially down to a victory condition for Isaac, but mainly because I have no clue why she is here.



who is Simone again?


they can alt reveal themselves if they want, i wouldnt recommend it given their lack of power they will be no target for anyone. i cant see what sort of hidden objective simone could have. Considering mohinder doesnt have abilities it seems the non powered players must be the ones with over riding objectives. the company isnt really looking for them, sylar and peter wont be able to gain anything by taking powers from them as they dont have any so they cant really join a faction in the same way the rest of us can.

maybe simone has an objective relatingto me getting captured thus cured of junk as in the show???

ando - maybe saving hiro from sylar somehow??

mohinder - saving the world from adam

Ehm, Mohinder has the curing ability, no? Even if it only goes against Adam, it is still an ability. Also, if the virus wasn't important for Adam or if it was not a better way to victory for him, why would the ability be there in the first place? He'd be much less circumspect if he would not use it if he can't win through it himself, and by not using it, he'd deny Mohinder victory. 2 birds with one stone. I really think the additional victory condition is for Adam, or for both Mohinder and Adam, but not just for Mohinder.

Also, powerless people can get captured by the company or saved by Peter, I guess, at the least until it becomes known they lack power.


But what would Mohinders victory condition be? I would assume everyone starts the game clean and doesn't need to be cured of anything. So if it is as you say Mohinder vs. Adam and adam has to kill people with virus? (sorry I don't watch the show so I feel really behind as far as abilities and plot lines) Mohinders winning condition might be to have no one infected at Games end? So possibly 2 seperate groups win perhaps. Say the company got all 4 of their captures AND no one is infected, Company wins and Mohinder wins?

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 05:04 PM

View PostLiosan, on Oct 29 2008, 09:50 AM, said:

View PostMeanas, on Oct 29 2008, 09:21 AM, said:

View PostLiosan, on Oct 28 2008, 08:16 PM, said:

Poor company lol, no one gives a shit about them.


OK, I trying to do a read up, but I ran out of time as I reached post 400.

I'll finish later, but I just want to point out that Liosan is obviously Company.

Umm, atm from Isaacs paintins it seems they have a provi in to capture me.
As does sylar(I think).

Such fun.


Well, you have refered to yourself as Sylar at least 3 times. Maybe they are calling your bluff :(

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 05:06 PM

Yes, but then how would adam win? It would be almost impossible.
As someone said, healers cant heal themselves.
However, in the series, it is Mohinders blood that heals the people, so it stands to reason(since its his blood) that he's uninfectable.

Therefore, how the hell can adam win. Especially if Mohinder can heal 3 people. Itd just be one sided.
Perhaps adam can do something else or something?

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 05:07 PM

View PostGalain, on Oct 29 2008, 10:04 AM, said:

View PostLiosan, on Oct 29 2008, 09:50 AM, said:

View PostMeanas, on Oct 29 2008, 09:21 AM, said:

View PostLiosan, on Oct 28 2008, 08:16 PM, said:

Poor company lol, no one gives a shit about them.


OK, I trying to do a read up, but I ran out of time as I reached post 400.

I'll finish later, but I just want to point out that Liosan is obviously Company.

Umm, atm from Isaacs paintins it seems they have a provi in to capture me.
As does sylar(I think).

Such fun.


Well, you have refered to yourself as Sylar at least 3 times. Maybe they are calling your bluff :(


Or maybe I can provisional myself, and its all part of my evil plan. Muahahaha :)

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Posted 29 October 2008 - 05:16 PM

Adam is probably BP. If anything, I'd be thinking that Hiro may also be set against Adam, but until our immortal friend sends in a provisional, we cannot know. My guess is Adam can infect four or five people a night. This would balance Mohinder's three counters, which is probably all they are, and the possibility that Hiro may have to take him out too. There is NO point in speculating about these roles at this stage, though. It'd be like speculating about the relationship between triad and FM without having ever heard of a game involving them before. We wait till Adam sends in his provisional. The fact that Hiro is a finder suggests he's looking for someone, though.
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