[Gavin]

Tapper, on Oct 27 2008, 05:16 PM, said:

Dkt hasn't smelled the bullshit yet, despite the reveal. He should have been dead, dammit, practically getting a second chance but not concluding JA doesn't make sense. Now if only someone can throw Dibses code out...

I was thinking the same thing about Dibses code. DKT is still seemingly confused or at least taking a very cautious approach here.

[Lacedaemonian]

The one comment that I made was more embarrassing than offensive. It was just one small throw away post. Veng taking offence is one thing but others taking offence??? Seems a bit soft in my opinion. This one issue detracted from the fact that some people played a very poor game.

[Tapper]

Lisheo is coming on strongfor JA, but in in the wrong way: basically praising him while condemning Baudin based purely on playstyle. Not the best move.. typical symping behaviour without anything to support his theory. It may be the final push dkt needs to decide that Baudin is the lesser of the two evils to keep alive as JA and Lisheo are definately linked. He may even press for Lisheo, in which case team evil is fucked. Go DKT!!

Were I JA, I'd start sowing the seeds against Baudin for tomorrow, and making it abundantly clear that dkt or Obdi should be NKed. They're basically VPI anyway and The Dude will not vote for either.

[Path-Shaper]

JA:

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Well, I know I can't really convince anyone else except dktorode.

Obdigore will never accept I am not scum, The Dude caught a case of the stupid (he's right, but stupid to be so sure ). Baudin is my target.

The game is yours, Dktorode. Do with it what you want. If I'm to be beaten, better be by you.

I don't know if I can help my masters, though. Lisheo was too friendly to me, I don't know if my inno CF will help. Mocker I tried to dissociate from, that's the reason I fake-revealed, that's the shit only symps try. When I CF inno, they'll never accept I was inno and the real vig, they'll cry "symp", scared losers they all are

If someone counter-reveals (Obdigore, maybe?), then even better. Mocker and Lisheo should be safe for a bit.

Damned, it's just too hard for me


One thing Lisheo could try is to counter-reveal vig and say he vigged Gem. That would be awesome, they would speed-lynch me, he could become CI, and Mocker almost too. I don't know if he can see this move and come up with it (and have the guts to do it)

Shit, why did you tell them I was their symp? Because you realized that you forgot a 4th scum, and wanted to give them an advantage to compensate? That doesn't really help if I can't communicate with them, if anything it made things harder.

Dkt, hoping for our approval. Poor guy... I mean, 3 days drunkness, a beach and pretty girls... what hardship.

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Hello thar in spoiler heaven!!!

Hows it hanging you bunch of informed bastards.
After a great weekend of debauchery, sand, sun and topless ladies i find myself quite hung over and stuck with this conundrum that is mafia....oh yea and work...there is work too, i suppose

good lord how did i post this weekend?
i have been constantly pissed for 3 days now. Im reading my posts and i dont know how i made any sense at all, especially with that piece of shit phone.
anyhow, now i think its down to baudin or JA.

JA is always dangerous and is putting across that inno feling quite strongly, i just cant help but think he is inno. I keep going from this intense feeling im being played and that he is scum to thinking he just CANT be scum. Im like a middle aged woman with menopause or soemthing.
Lisheo has been shamelessly symoing him doesnt really help his cause.

Baudin has ben smelling (metaphorically ofcourse) bad since the beginning, and i think there is a very good chance he is scum. Right now though the only other person i can as his partner is lisheo. The problem i have here is, would lisheo be so vocal as a killer? really?...would he?
If he is a killer, the way he has spammed the thread with useless posts was very brave, and i think the fact he is new is whats covering his ass.
Its what?...his third game? I cant remember but he's still a newbie to me

But in the end it is either JA or baudin....ill tell you what.
At this very moment im leaning towards baudin....

is that a little cheer i heard form spoilers?....i can just see you bastards now going "NOOOOO NOT BAUDIN, KILL JA"
....Bah

Lisheo, believing he is almost lost.

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Well, this is it. The Dude did damn well with his guess about me, Mocker and JA, respect to JA for heading him off, but I think the Dude deserves invisible rep!
Anyway. It's probably the last day we killers can win. if we mess up here, well.... But its interesting. I'm looking forward to this. Baudin leaving his vote on JA was a possibly fatal error for team innocent, but damn JA for using my idea of claiming the vig reveal. Even if it does mean we win. But still.
All I've got to do now is wait for twenty odd hours, and try and head off any investigations into Mocker(what's JA playing at there? Someone might actually take his "accusations" against Mocker seriously, and the last thing we need is a train athering momentum!)
My symping JA was probably too obvious, but it made me appear as a symp, not a killer, which is better than what's happened to, say, Silencer or Vengeance. So I think while a lot of the remaining players have me on their list as scum, they don't have me high up enough. Everyone is focused on getting the killers at this point.
I'm not hugely sure we can win this, but I hope so. Would be nice to win my first game! Even if it is due to the n00b card lol.

[Gem Windcaster]

Well, I don't blame him, keeping your cool is the hardest lesson of Mafia.

[Path-Shaper]

I agree (Tapper on P-S, btw). He hasn't been cased, so far, though, so he hasn't had the quickened heartbeat and breath stuck in the throat of a huge post with quotes blasting away at your carefully planned but backfiring actions, followed by a bolded vote

[Morgoth]

Huh.. Killing Lace? If the killers lose now, it is purely based on that decision I think. Lace, I don't think people complain as much about your comment towards Venge as your seeming unwillingness to cooperate and with and listen to the other players of the game. I'm not saying you did not, but you gave the impression -to my mind- that such was the case.

anyways, I am very impressed with the playing of the new ones this game. The Dude stands out, but Lace and Lisheo have equally done very well I think. Mocker have also done a good game staying far off everyone's radar, and though one can argue how honourable such tactics as his are, they seem to be efficient and victory is the goal after all.

If dk goes for Baudin now, the game is over. Go team evil

[Vengeance]

alt146, on Oct 27 2008, 02:27 AM, said:

Very impressed with The Dudes last couple of posts, he's got the game completely figured out. Now he just needs to convince the others and stop JA completely derailing him. Of course JA claiming vig is just going to screw with everything, and he can probably pull it off. Although still refusing to vote for mocker or lish is going to raise HUGE alarm bells. Let's hope team inno manage to get it right.

I think that he will get by it. After all he did vote for Mocker earlier in the game and will try to fall back on that it anyone questions him. So far JA has played brilliantly if the killers had taken obdi and Dkt out earlier this might be over by now...

[Tapper]

Obdi did the right thing by being blunt and confrontational and not paying (much) attention to JA's dizzying talk.
JA can jump, turn, and talk all around it as much as he likes, but it does little to change things. Obdi put the question out there for all to see and any reasoning JA will do, will just be led back to that one question: shall we lynch Lisheo as a compromise/ binding factor?

The only way in which disaster for team evil can be averted, is if Dkt disagrees with voting Lisheo, I think, and maybe Mocker can help with that, by voting Baudin as a gamble.

[J_Slr]

I love how JA is using the fact that he is the weasel to defend himself.

[Gem Windcaster]

I'm sad to see that dkt is still basing all his decisions on the assumption that JA is inno. LOL!

This post has been edited by Gem Windcaster: 27 October 2008 - 02:49 PM

[Tapper]

J_Slr, on Oct 27 2008, 03:44 PM, said:

I love how JA is using the fact that he is the weasel to defend himself.

Yeah. Sadly, the long term outcome is that he will be seen as the Weasel even more in the future

@ Gem: he's consistent in that

[J_Slr]

I think JA is ascending!

He is too good at what he does. I have massive respect for him as a player and I refuse to be in the 'I can not trust him just because he is the weasel' camp, but he scares me!

I just hope that the rest of us can step up and challenge him.

[Tapper]

He is doing what he does best: steering play. Massive respect and I'd say that he's not weaseling right now, but making heads spin away from a Lisheo lynch.

I think the counter to JA is to either bluntly make him choose by presenting him with option a, option b and option c and no middle ground or way out, and cutting through his mistbanks every single time (Obdi did that perfectly a couple of times), or by questioning his every point while he questions yours, and bog him down in a 1-vs-1. The sad thing is, to do so, you need to be online as much as he is and counter him post for post with the same convincing force.

[J_Slr]

Which is not something I can pull off!
Gods matching JA move for move..... That would be epic, but can you imagine how big the thread would become?

[Tapper]

Yeah, it would be insane. DiBs and Morgoth can measure him in post count, and Dibs is confrontational enough to do it. My best bet is someone incredibly stubborn though, the kind of pitbull that never lets go. Do we have one?

[Gem Windcaster]

I might give it a shot one of these days... Someone has to try, right?

This post has been edited by Gem Windcaster: 27 October 2008 - 04:15 PM

[Morgoth]

Obdi voted Baudin. It is done

[J_Slr]

A the dude just shot himself in the foot!

The Dude, on Oct 27 2008, 06:12 PM, said:

baudin, on Oct 27 2008, 09:10 AM, said:

Ok well now it really looks like im gonna be lynched, i would suggest looking at obdi or JA they both seem to be the ones controlling the game atm, and the more i think about it it does seem possible theyre working together.
Or the scum are the noobs who are letting the experienced peopel control the game while stting in the back staying out of trouble, this would suggest mocker to me quite strongly.

But you understand we have to lynch you right? It just gives us too much information.

This post has been edited by J_Slr: 27 October 2008 - 04:16 PM

[Gem Windcaster]

He removed it, but...down goes the innos...