[Silencer]

I said I didn't like it. Sheesh.

My bet is on a new player.

[Silencer]

Lish...I see you lurking down there!

Post, damn you, before I head off!

[Jump Around]

Obdi got one ass hair away from getting lynched, despite the superhuman powers some give me in this game, there's no way we could "plan" something like this.

I'm just saying in case we do manage to lynch Obdi and he comes out killer, to not have to defend after

[Silencer]

JA, I wouldn't push for you if Obdi came out killer NOW. I would have yesterday. You're not below lynching your own partner to make yourself as close to clear as possible....

But...I still reckon it's a newbie.

[Jump Around]

Silencer, on Oct 24 2008, 12:41 PM, said:

Lish...I see you lurking down there!

Post, damn you, before I head off!

? I never see Lisheo down there, I think he put himself invisible.

Or is it because you are admin? Awesome, you can be our LurkerHunter ™

[Lisheo]

Well, Silencer, what do you want me to say? I agree with DK and JA. And I've put you forward for a candidate for killer before, I'd like to know if I was right before Spoiler Heaven, tbh

[Silencer]

It's because I'm an admin.

That's two things from you I need to put in my sig. XD

And Lish, we'd like your input on the newbie players, and your stance on Obdigore.

[dktorode]

Jump Around, on Oct 24 2008, 11:22 AM, said:

dktorode, if we lynch (or threaten to lynch ) one of the new players today, who would be your choice?

Bugger...i dunno

Baudin...only comes on when needed, says what is needed steps on no ones toes, you could eat off of his nose.

Mocker...says allot...of nothing. Likes to go with the flow, he didnt want to kill Gem though. If he was not new i would have made him a PI just for this, but i know how scary it is to be the hammer when you are scum, so i cant discount this as he could have been just trying too hard to play the inno.

Lace, lace was very vocal in the beginning, even more so when he got some heat. He is the only new guy to get any serious heat. Has become very quiet since the heat has been off.
Perhaps he realised that keeping a lo profile is the better way to play scum? also could be why yellow died night two, getting rid of the one person who knows him?

The dude, well he has played very well, seams on the straight and narrow to me. If anything he could be a symp to one of the new guys, and has not had much to do in the way of defending since we are all fighting amongst ourselves.

Errr...who else is new?
Oh shit how can i forget lisheo...talks too much. I dont see him talking so much as a killer. May be a symp causing havoc and keeping attention away from his masters.

so really i could go for any one of them. The case venge made on Baudin is raather appealing though.

[Jump Around]

I didn't hear dktorode's take on the new players, I mean specifically. I'm curious, since if we go that way it will be complicated and we should start hunting early.

edit: cross-post

This post has been edited by Jump Around: 24 October 2008 - 09:46 AM

[dktorode]

Im glad we got so many new players...Also glad they got a long game in and werent taken out early.
Gives them a chance to experience a full game with all its drama and tension.
I suspect we have a few new mafia memebers after this

[dktorode]

Silencer, on Oct 24 2008, 11:43 AM, said:

JA, I wouldn't push for you if Obdi came out killer NOW. I would have yesterday. You're not below lynching your own partner to make yourself as close to clear as possible....

But...I still reckon it's a newbie.

You seem to want to lynch anybody..

[Jump Around]

OK, I'll re-quote my take because it got lost back there:

Jump Around, on Oct 24 2008, 08:20 AM, said:

But anyways, dktorode is right, enough slack to the noobs. If we were alted, I would have harassed them more than I did, that's for sure. So let's play a game and imagine I don't know it's their first game. Here they are, in my eyes, in order of scumminess, from least to most:

1) The Dude. New or not, he played a good game. I don't remember him saying or doing anything suspect, inno in my eyes.

2) Lisheo. Lots of posts, with content. Not "original" content, lots of agreeing or disagreeing, but at least I remember his opinions on most of what was happening, and he never hid. A few suspicious acts, like vote-hopping and refusing to finish Morgoth. (unalted game note: for his first game, if he's getting the highest post count while being a killer, he is a fucking force of evil that needs to be hunted in future games. As it stands, it reminds me of Grief's first game, he's posting a lot, having fun, enjoying the power of lynching the rest of the poor suckas )

edit: he could still be a symp, though, just getting inno lynches for his masters. That's not a difficult strategy to come up with in your first game, and explains the relaxed way he's playing and the fun he's having

3) Baudin. Strange game he played, in between being around and not. I see two cases made on him, by Vengeance and The Dude, and I like them. He might be a killer

4) Lace. He raised many hairs since the start, and that has nothing to do with being new. That's my problem with him, and the reason I voted him earlier: new or not, his game doesn't sound inno. Then again, it doesn't sound killer that I know, but then again, maybe he's a new breed. I would vote for him today happily.

5) Mocker. Well, he's playing the classical killer game, new or not: laying low, many lol posts, asking lots of questions, asking others what we should do, laying low in intense moments. All this, however, I have seen in new player playing inno, which is why I didn't raise it before. But if we are to look in new directions and look somewhere else, my choice would be him.

So, assuming Obdigore and Silencer are not scum (which is highly improbable)

vote Mocker

So, Mocker, Lace or Baudin would be my choices if we lynch a new player today. But unlike the other two, Lace's play could be compatible with symp, so maybe less him.

edit: unbolded the vote in the quote to avoid confusion

This post has been edited by Jump Around: 24 October 2008 - 09:50 AM

[dktorode]

Jump Around, on Oct 24 2008, 11:43 AM, said:

Silencer, on Oct 24 2008, 12:41 PM, said:

Lish...I see you lurking down there!

Post, damn you, before I head off!

? I never see Lisheo down there, I think he put himself invisible.

Or is it because you are admin? Awesome, you can be our LurkerHunter ™

I never log in invisible....is that a bad thing?

[Lisheo]

Alright.
Of the n00bs:
Lace: I disliked his playing style originally, however after the pressure mounted he started taking things seriously. Playing for the inno team proper, and questioning people's motives. His Morgy obsession was a little strange (Has he even voted since then?) but I put that down to the surety of a n00b.
Baudin: Hops on lynchs, is helpful, posts little content. Possible killer.
Mocker: Not as lynch happy, nor helpful(Baudin posted a lot more older arguments for our benefit, keeping conflict going?) doesn't post much content. Possible killer, but I'd rank Baudin above him.
The Dude: helpful, outspoken when he's on, and lynchs for genuine reasons: he's been watching the game and knows how to play. Innocent.

Obdigore, i originally thought was 100% scum, especially as he wouldn't jump ship and lynch Vengeance. Now, I truly don't know.

[dktorode]

Would love to hear what obdi has to say about the new players...

[Silencer]

Haha. No, I don't want to lynch you, right now.

I don't want to lynch the new players, right now.

I don't have anyone as CI, or VPI (well...you come close...but I'm not convinced), so why would I be against lynching anyone?

I want to lynch either JA, or Obdi.

[Jump Around]

dktorode, on Oct 24 2008, 12:51 PM, said:

Would love to hear what obdi has to say about the new players...

So do I. He's in in around 3 hours, and we have loads of time. I'm off for lunch, brb

[Silencer]

Now I'm really off to bed.

Night all.

My vote is there...don't let Obdi take it too personally. Please. It's just a "if you need it and I'm not on" vote.

[dktorode]

OR a "Hope an inno puts his vote with mine so partner and our symps can finish this game off quick" vote

This post has been edited by dktorode: 24 October 2008 - 10:31 AM

[Jump Around]

You know, dktorode, I have been re-reading what you were talking about with Obdi refusing to vote Vengeance even to save his own life.

If you check, it happened when it became obvious it would be Venge, not him, who would get lynched: Venge and yourself removed votes from Obdi, and you, Gavin and others were saying Vengeance was your favorite target.

Now, 2 scenarios:

1) Obdi is inno. Venge is about to get lynched, with a good case against him. If Venge CFs guilty, Obdigore sets himself for the fastest lynch in history the next day. Now, Obdigore is good, that's part or my case against him, but not to the point of getting inno vibes from someone with such conviction, specially on player that had a good case on himself.

2) Obdi is guilty, he knows Vengeance will come out inno. He has his "sheep railroading Weasel" rants ready, and they have a much bigger impact if, once again, he manages to not be on the lynch train of an inno. Now the pressure on him today is less than if he said "OK, if you guys think Venge is guilty, well, I don't know about him but I know about me, so I'll vote him"

The second makes more sense in my mind, he just took a small gamble, which wasn't so tricky if you follow the flow of the lynches directions.

I think re-reading the thread looking for connections will help finding the right new player to lynch, so I would be willing to confirm the killer CF on Obdi first today.

This post has been edited by Jump Around: 24 October 2008 - 10:33 AM