[Silencer]

I want to lynch a scum to see if dkt is guilty-by-association.

[Jump Around]

Silencer, on Oct 24 2008, 11:18 AM, said:

I want to lynch a scum to see if dkt is guilty-by-association.

Silencer, you blow my mind.


You could also comment on my take on the new players, that's relevant to the game too.

[dktorode]

The Dude, on Oct 24 2008, 09:25 AM, said:

JA why don't you vote obdi then If you are so sure? Also, you state mocker is doing all the things you have seen new players do when playing inno... But you just randomly put him at the top of your because you want to look in new directions? He is doing everything a noob would do, but... you want to look in a new directions. Your #2 suspect you seem much more unsure about, yet he is #2 to a person that is playing like an inno. AND your #3 person is someone who you said might be a killer... you have thought about it... but you are going to vote for the person who, according to you has acted as new players play acting inno. Granted, I suspected Mocker for a bit... but he is very new, he could have helped hammer on day 2 but didn't. Hell, he wasn't even here on day three. Not saying you are scum but I don't like your logic for your vote.

In your favor though, and this is very meta and might be in bad taste... think I read this on the forums somewhere, so if it is I will remove it if you let me know. Clearly mocker is roled. good or bad. he is roled.

Man I need to sleep.

Waoh there....you dont suspect mocker at all?

Ive been bitching about his style of play for days...classic killer play by that one!
Ok i know he wouldnt hammer on day 2 thats why ive not bothered with him.

BUT...he is new, and i would think that a new killer would shit himself if he had to put the HAMMER on for the fist time ever as a killer.
So i can see why, as a killer he would hesitate or even refuse, to look less guilty. So i wont write the guy off completely. People are strange.

[dktorode]

The Dude, on Oct 24 2008, 09:27 AM, said:

@ Silencer, are you doubting that DKT is a vig? maybe I am to trusting.... but the real vig would have come forward right???

I dunno if silencer is just not thinking, or if he is choosing not to think?

[dktorode]

Jump Around, on Oct 24 2008, 09:32 AM, said:

The Dude, on Oct 24 2008, 10:25 AM, said:

JA why don't you vote obdi then If you are so sure? Also, you state mocker is doing all the things you have seen new players do when playing inno... But you just randomly put him at the top of your because you want to look in new directions? He is doing everything a noob would do, but... you want to look in a new directions. Your #2 suspect you seem much more unsure about, yet he is #2 to a person that is playing like an inno. AND your #3 person is someone who you said might be a killer... you have thought about it... but you are going to vote for the person who, according to you has acted as new players play acting inno. Granted, I suspected Mocker for a bit... but he is very new, he could have helped hammer on day 2 but didn't. Hell, he wasn't even here on day three. Not saying you are scum but I don't like your logic for your vote.

In your favor though, and this is very meta and might be in bad taste... think I read this on the forums somewhere, so if it is I will remove it if you let me know. Clearly mocker is roled. good or bad. he is roled.

Man I need to sleep.

My point was to make a list of who my suspects would be if I didn't know who was new and who was not, i.e. if this was an alted game. I have completely ignored the new players until now, but this was an exercise to compensate for that.

I honestly would prefer to not lynch a new player today, too much gambling IMO. But if we should, it would be mocker-Baudin-Lace. I chose Mocker to see what would happen.

This is also one of the reasons i think JA is inno...he could have gone after the softer targets by going after the new guys mistakes, yet he hasnt.
I will be pissed if i find he is scum...but really, there is just no evidence to support him being scum as far as i can see.

[Jump Around]

You know, Silencer, I'm not worried for dktorode because I'm inno, so your point is moot.

But now you reach the point where you pass "confused" territory to enter "suspicious" in this whole story. Please explain to me how me being guilty could explain dktorode's reveal and lack of counter-reveal?

[dktorode]

Silencer, on Oct 24 2008, 09:33 AM, said:

Not necessarily. The 'real vig' may still have a kill left. I doubt that. But it's possible.
And they may also be new, in which case they would not reveal, for fear of being blamed.

As I said, in this case, JA is trusting. I am not. Hell, if JA is guilty, dkt is my second choice, Obdi my third.

Have you left your happy pills at home?
Vig must use his kill before or on night 4....dehhhrrr

[Silencer]

Your theory on the new players....

I admit, we've all been neglecting them. Some of them have been playing scummy...like Lace. I don't like Lace's style. However, Yellow was so insistent that he's screwing with us...I almost don't believe it because of that.

I don't get much feeling from the others. I haven't been paying much attention. I must say though, mocker must be the LEAST confrontational player ever. That's suspicious.

[Path-Shaper]

it is day 4, 12 hours and 30 minute left

9 people still grooving to the beat: Baudin, Dktorode, Jump Around, Lacedaemonian, Lisheo, Mocker, Obdigore, Silencer, The Dude

takes 5 votes to lynch or 5 to go to night

1 vote: mocker (Jump Around)

Note Voted: Baudin, Dktorode, Lacedaemonian, Lisheo, Mocker, Obdigore, Silencer, The Dude

am double checking time now ~ J_Slr

[Silencer]

It is DAY four, yes, dkt?

That means it's not NIGHT FOUR yet, yes?

[dktorode]

Silencer, on Oct 24 2008, 10:11 AM, said:

Your position on that list is based on JA being scum.

If he isn't, you're in the clear.

This is retarded...so if JA is in fact guilty, you will still ignore my vig reveal...THAT HAS NO COUNTER REVEALS???
Who vigged tapper?...i came forward the next day, unless yellow did it and im some kind of luckmaster-G, then i must not play fucking mafia. I should play the fucking LOTTO instead.
Wow...

[dktorode]

Silencer, on Oct 24 2008, 10:18 AM, said:

I want to lynch a scum to see if dkt is guilty-by-association.

Will that hold up in court.

Lets kill anyone who has even spoken to JA...
fuck that, lets kill his parents, just to be sure.

[Silencer]

You and JA have been playing really close games. No real interaction between you, except for agreement. You two are NEVER that in-step.

Hell, we all think Obdi could be guilty, but you and JA have been together on pretty much everything, I'll give Obdi that.

[Jump Around]

I'm thinking of switching my vote to Silencer.

Yesterday him and Obdigore worked hard to undermine what I say, not because of what I said but because of who I am. I accept that in a way because of how I have played in the past (I take it as a compliment, actually), and knew what to expect entering this altless game. Those who wonder why I played super-clean instead of my usual hell raiser, there is your answer.

But now we have dktorode, who is both experienced and VPI because of his reveal, and until now Silencer has been working hard to undermine him too, just because, what? I defend every attempt of putting dktorode in the suspicious pack? Of course I will!

I just don't understand why inno Silencer would do that, I just don't.

[dktorode]

Silencer, on Oct 24 2008, 10:29 AM, said:

It is DAY four, yes, dkt?

That means it's not NIGHT FOUR yet, yes?

aaah... but you said maybe the vig still wants to use his vigg...firstly if that is so...who the fuck killed tapper and Gem? the tooth fairy?
AND if the vig is ,by some miracle, around he would reveal anyways becasue he must use his vig tonight or not at all, so he cant be scared to reveal as you say "because he still might want to use his vig"
YES??

[Jump Around]

Silencer, on Oct 24 2008, 11:33 AM, said:

You and JA have been playing really close games. No real interaction between you, except for agreement. You two are NEVER that in-step.

Hell, we all think Obdi could be guilty, but you and JA have been together on pretty much everything, I'll give Obdi that.

See? He doesn't care what we say. He doesn't care why we say it. Just that we agree when we normally don't. No context of what games we were agree i , what teams we were in during those games.

Unbelievable.

[Silencer]

Ah...JA. This is bad. If you are inno, you'll get lynched after me, then probably dkt as well. I can't see this going well for the inno team. Unless one of us is evil, there are going to be between two and three dead innos, just by lynch, all from this.

[dktorode]

Silencer, forget about fucking JA...and just THINK.
I would be a complete idiot to fake reveal for no good bloody reason and 11 people still in the game, every one of them the possibel vig , especially after a night that just had a vig do his work.
That would mean i fake revealed KNOWING the vig is still around....i didnt wait three flippen days...i revealed the NEXT day. I did this specifically so that we could have a VPI in the game. Someone you can trust. That is why i wanted the other vig to reveal so we could potentially have two VPI's...so much for that.
But nooooo, you seek to undermine me?

[dktorode]

Silencer, on Oct 24 2008, 10:41 AM, said:

Ah...JA. This is bad. If you are inno, you'll get lynched after me, then probably dkt as well. I can't see this going well for the inno team. Unless one of us is evil, there are going to be between two and three dead innos, just by lynch, all from this.

IF you ARE inno..then stop trying to look for something that is not there, i am the vig. You are nessy hunting.

[Silencer]

dkt, I honestly don't care whether or not you are the vig. I'm just concerned about JA. If JA comes up guilty (if anyone ever manages to get him lynched), then I'll worry about you. If, for example, we get two kills tonight, I, or at least someone, will probably have some very hard questions for you.

I said, when I first posted, that I didn't think the vig had a kill left. However, if the vig is a noob, they may very well STILL not counter-reveal. Out of fear of being rail-roaded by you.


For now, can we just assume I believe your reveal unequivocally?