[dktorode]

Lacedaemonian, on Oct 23 2008, 05:57 PM, said:

Vengeance threatened me making reference to his name. He wasn't going to take his vote off me. Blah, blah, blah he was always going to get my vote in the instance of a train. Some of you supposed experienced players have played shit. Either making no cases or derailing with boring personal shit. If we lose this game it is because of this. At this point in the game Baudin and Mocker could be the killers and we could be fucking ourselves in the arse. But who would know? Been loads of argument today and case building. Do we have a chance of winning?

Yes the so called experienced players have been playing shit. I think we may be ignoring the new guys simply because we right everything off as newbie mistakes.
I would go that direction come tomorrow.

I can almost understand where obdi and venge are coming from if they ARE inno. (big if)
Tthat it is very difficult if both myself and JA are both pushing hard for a lynch on a specific person or persons.
So if they are inno i would put myself part to blame...but you got to admit they made it look real bad for themselves.

Im willing to accept i was wrong, after all this is only the second person who has died that i thought is really guilty. and the first was tapper who i took care of myself.

[Jump Around]

dktorode, on Oct 23 2008, 06:57 PM, said:

Venge did put in a final comment about silencer getting off the hook again...so i doubt he was silencers symp.

Venge took off his vote from Obdi and then was adamant Obdi was inno. He could have saved himself by voting Obdi, but didn't. He might be his symp.

Do you think Venge's inno verdict makes Obdi less guilty?

[dktorode]

Lacedaemonian, on Oct 23 2008, 05:59 PM, said:

dktorode, on Oct 23 2008, 04:47 PM, said:

Well, with a last ditch effort at keeping my sanity, all i can hope for is that Venge was silencers symp. Otherwise its got to be one of the newbies.

Lacedaemonian, on Oct 23 2008, 04:48 PM, said:

Why not JA?

dktorode, on Oct 23 2008, 04:51 PM, said:

Lacedaemonian, on Oct 23 2008, 05:48 PM, said:

Why not JA?

who are you talking to?

You. The apparent Vig.

why not JA as a symp or symping JA?
because i dont think JA is a killer!

edit - aded "or symping JA"

This post has been edited by dktorode: 23 October 2008 - 04:06 PM

[dktorode]

Jump Around, on Oct 23 2008, 06:02 PM, said:

dktorode, on Oct 23 2008, 06:57 PM, said:

Venge did put in a final comment about silencer getting off the hook again...so i doubt he was silencers symp.

Venge took off his vote from Obdi and then was adamant Obdi was inno. He could have saved himself by voting Obdi, but didn't. He might be his symp.

Do you think Venge's inno verdict makes Obdi less guilty?

fuck man...i dont know anymore.
I need to get away from this keyboard and have a think.

Obdi seemed REALLY confident about turning up inno...could all be an act

[Obdigore]

Jump Around, on Oct 23 2008, 11:02 AM, said:

dktorode, on Oct 23 2008, 06:57 PM, said:

Venge did put in a final comment about silencer getting off the hook again...so i doubt he was silencers symp.

Venge took off his vote from Obdi and then was adamant Obdi was inno. He could have saved himself by voting Obdi, but didn't. He might be his symp.

Do you think Venge's inno verdict makes Obdi less guilty?

Why was I joking about lynching you all game? Because you put me on your list after I got you killed last game, and I fucking KNEW you were going to screw over team inno by trying to get me lynched.

Jesus christ people, once again JA has decided, with no proof whatsoever, that I am guilty, and he is going to try to hammer you all to change to me, like he always fucking does.

Go on JA, quote the cases on me, the ones that DON'T need venge to be guilty. There aren't ANY that don't hinge on me and venge to be killers together. But here is JA, pushing his hidden agenda once again. DK, if you aren't on his team, I cannot believe you are putting up with this. Honestly.

[Jump Around]

dktorode, on Oct 23 2008, 07:05 PM, said:

fuck man...i dont know anymore.
I need to get away from this keyboard and have a think.

Obdi seemed REALLY confident about turning up inno...could all be an act

Same here.

What pisses me off is that despite what they said, the case was good. And tomorrow we'll have a pissed Obdi throwing shit at us all day

I bet he won't even make a case, just erratic insults with "weasel" and "railroad" in them.

Urgh.

[The Dude]

Obdigore, on Oct 23 2008, 08:49 AM, said:

Jump Around, on Oct 23 2008, 10:42 AM, said:

Obdigore, on Oct 23 2008, 06:42 PM, said:

OH LOOK VENGEANCE IS FUCKING INNO.

JA + DK = Killers.

Good game, since we have 2 nks tonight, and its game over.

If you're inno Obdi, it's because of innos like you that we'll eventually lose this game

Oh yes, its me, not you who builds bullshit cases on innos then browbeats all these fucking sheep into lynching them.

Yes, yes, it MUST be my fault! I have YET to vote for anyone comming up inno, and have defending nearly every inno lynch that happened because the cases, mainly championed by you, are FUCKING BULLSHIT.

BUT OH FUCKING NO here comes dk with some dominatrix mask to let you have your fun killing everyone while these sheep sit around and hold down your target for the glorious assfucking only because they have hope that they wont be the next one to bite the fucking pillow and pray you have a miniscule prick.

NOW you goddamn sheep listen the fuck up. It is WIFOM heaven, but JA has been railroading all fucking game. I come on today ready to build a case against him after thinking about it last night, and I find that he has built a case against me that you pansy ass little bitches have agreed to. Vengenace, (ANOTHER INNO DEAD!) tried to stop JA's ass-railing, but you all enjoyed it.

I can't build a case on JA because everything I fucking say will be viewed as giant pile a shit-flavored WIFOM and ignored. IF, and I use this IF sparingly, there is only one kill tonight, then DK is probably an actual vig, and the game continues. In which case I have EVERY SINGLE FUCKING INTENTION of lynching JA.

The_dude is next, since he followed his master pretty closely. I would also look at Silencer, who is JA's partner, since he just did his little distancing stunt.

And one last thing, let us not forget Gavin, who has been signed in reading the thread since before T-30 minutes but FAILED to post afaik.

PS - cocksuckers.

I'm walking away. I will be back later to see if game is over or not.

Whatever Obdi- I made a case against you I believed it. If you think I am symping JA then why the hell didn't I hammer Venge.... cause I didn't think he was scum!! I said so on the last line of my case against You. I wasn't going to vote Vengence. Thats it. More to follow. I think Baudin is a killer.


Baaaaaaaa

This post has been edited by The Dude: 23 October 2008 - 04:08 PM

[Obdigore]

PS - Gavin, I am sorry, I did miss your end-of day posts.

[dktorode]

I suppose the only thing really to do is go for obdi tomorrow.

If he is scum...he has a free ride to the end after this.

I just hope we have hit a symp already, otherwise one wrong vote tomorrow and its game over with a speed lynch.

[Gavin]

Jump Around, on Oct 24 2008, 01:02 AM, said:

dktorode, on Oct 23 2008, 06:57 PM, said:

Venge did put in a final comment about silencer getting off the hook again...so i doubt he was silencers symp.

Venge took off his vote from Obdi and then was adamant Obdi was inno. He could have saved himself by voting Obdi, but didn't. He might be his symp.

Do you think Venge's inno verdict makes Obdi less guilty?

To be honest yes I think it does make Obdi less guilty. I would prefer to look elsewhere, Silencer and Baudin both spring to mind. I need to think about it more as well.

[Obdigore]

dktorode, on Oct 23 2008, 11:08 AM, said:

I suppose the only thing really to do is go for obdi tomorrow.

If he is scum...he has a free ride to the end after this.

I just hope we have hit a symp already, otherwise one wrong vote tomorrow and its game over with a speed lynch.

Go right ahead. I will get to gloat about how you all got played by JA when I come up inno.

Lunch, bbl.

[dktorode]

Obdigore, on Oct 23 2008, 06:06 PM, said:

Jump Around, on Oct 23 2008, 11:02 AM, said:

dktorode, on Oct 23 2008, 06:57 PM, said:

Venge did put in a final comment about silencer getting off the hook again...so i doubt he was silencers symp.

Venge took off his vote from Obdi and then was adamant Obdi was inno. He could have saved himself by voting Obdi, but didn't. He might be his symp.

Do you think Venge's inno verdict makes Obdi less guilty?

Why was I joking about lynching you all game? Because you put me on your list after I got you killed last game, and I fucking KNEW you were going to screw over team inno by trying to get me lynched.

Jesus christ people, once again JA has decided, with no proof whatsoever, that I am guilty, and he is going to try to hammer you all to change to me, like he always fucking does.

Go on JA, quote the cases on me, the ones that DON'T need venge to be guilty. There aren't ANY that don't hinge on me and venge to be killers together. But here is JA, pushing his hidden agenda once again. DK, if you aren't on his team, I cannot believe you are putting up with this. Honestly.

If you are team inno...i cant believe you have freaked out the way you have!!!
And if you ARE team inno, you will know i cant be scum because i didnt hammer you.
Think about it

[Lacedaemonian]

If you Vig killed Tapper then you took out one of the people on my list. I had five main suspects:

Tapper
Gem

Morgoth
Vengeance
Lishao

Other than Lishao they are all dead. They all CF'd as Inno too.

The Tapper and Gem did not stick with me for too long. Gem was not interested and I dropped Tapper from my radar. I would not have Vig killed him.

With Morgoth and Vengeance I genuinely believed that one of them would turn up as a killer. Shows what I know. Dont think me and Veng helped each other in this game though. I will apologise to him after this game (assuming he was inno).

Only Lishao remains alive.

PS I dont expect to survive the night despite DK's claim to be a Vig.

[Lisheo]

I think we must have hit a symp at some point. The odds of getting one are big enough for us to assume there are probably at max three members of team evil left.

EDIT : oh, and thanks Lace

[dktorode]

Obdigore, on Oct 23 2008, 06:10 PM, said:

dktorode, on Oct 23 2008, 11:08 AM, said:

I suppose the only thing really to do is go for obdi tomorrow.

If he is scum...he has a free ride to the end after this.

I just hope we have hit a symp already, otherwise one wrong vote tomorrow and its game over with a speed lynch.

Go right ahead. I will get to gloat about how you all got played by JA when I come up inno.

Lunch, bbl.

You would gloat about the day you got railroaded?

[Jump Around]

Obdigore, on Oct 23 2008, 07:06 PM, said:

Go on JA, quote the cases on me, the ones that DON'T need venge to be guilty.

Here:

Jump Around, on Oct 23 2008, 08:08 AM, said:

Now I am at post 160. Obdi is spamming the thread like crazy, while the short 24-hour day passes. THAT is a symp activity.

The only game-related post I find (and the word is loose):

Obdigore, on Oct 17 2008, 12:58 AM, said:

mocker, on Oct 16 2008, 04:57 PM, said:

Obdigore, on Oct 16 2008, 10:53 PM, said:

Gem Windcaster, on Oct 16 2008, 04:51 PM, said:

That's Queen cute as a button to you!

Pretty Pretty Princess cute as a button

And mocker, if we don't kill dibs or JA asap, the innocents always live to regret it.

You ARE an innocent, aren't you?

haha! now thats such a bastard question... if i say yes then u'll ask why i felt the need to answer that question because, as innocence is implicit, that means i'm dodgy, and if i say no then im fucked lol hmm

No if you say yes I will then pressure you to vote for JA or DIBS.

Since you are dodging the question I now proclaim your sympdom is exposed for all to see!
Edit: changed know to now, because the other way is just silly. Morgy in a dress silly.

Here:

Jump Around, on Oct 23 2008, 02:38 PM, said:

It's easy for players to "say" something, but you have to make a case look at what they do.

Obdi for example, since I'm voting for him:

He says "spam spam spam" as if he doesn't like spam. And what are 90% of his posts? Spam. Innos don't like spams, so he says it. But killers like spam, short days, it means we do poor lynches with little time left, so he does it.

As inno, you need to lynch killers, they won't kill themselves. What does Obdi do? Day 1: lonely vote on Gavin, his case: Gavin is Morgoth's symp. Day 2: no lynch, and deadline happened during his coverage of the thread. Day 3: lonely vote on Lisheo, his case: Lisheo is my symp. Does that look like an inno who wants to win, no matter what he says?

etc. My case on him and Venge is based on how they acted, less on what they posted.

[Jump Around]

Here:

The Dude, on Oct 23 2008, 09:26 AM, said:

OK here is some Obdi fodder: Please note that before I started this quote train there were about 15 Day 1 joke posts. Many involving the Lynch JA/Venge?Dibs variety.

Obdigore, on Oct 20 2008, 07:39 AM, said:

I am here.

I have not read up. Will be attempting to do that you flipping spammers.

Obdigore, on Oct 20 2008, 12:31 PM, said:

Spam Spam wham diddly spam.

Honestly, there isn't a solid case at all at this point, and I'm not sure I want to vote for any of the people being brought forward since almost none of them have any defenders.

I skimmed what I missed (all 30 or so pages), and found nothing super-out-there, so I suppose I should read again more deeply, but I can't do it right now.

So we know he hates Spam...so do I.

Obdigore, on Oct 20 2008, 12:46 PM, said:

Gem Windcaster, on Oct 20 2008, 02:34 PM, said:

Thank heavens for the pros... (<--that's not sarcastic by the way - I better be clear from now on.)



Edit: grammar

Was that at me, wo-man?

Don't make me shatter your disco-pony!

Obdigore, on Oct 20 2008, 12:58 PM, said:

Gem Windcaster, on Oct 20 2008, 02:53 PM, said:

mocker, on Oct 20 2008, 07:51 PM, said:

haha thats genius!

sounds better than heaven, as it has one-up-man-ship as a standard!

fantastic

I never heard the expression one-up-man-ship - what does that mean?

It is having to be better than the previous poster.

"I'm a user!"
"Well I'm a mod!"
"oh yea, well I'm an admin, so there!"

and so on.

Fixed.

He Hates the Spam yet...... He seems to be doing it.

Obdigore, on Oct 20 2008, 01:00 PM, said:

Ahem, can anyone point me towards Morgy's defense on DIBs' case against him?

Obdigore, on Oct 20 2008, 01:14 PM, said:

Ok, some thoughts on the Morgy/Dibs issue.

DIBs has a point that Morgy has been doing funky things, but he always does. Morgy has a point that DIBs is like a dog on a jugular, he is not relenting, and ignoring everything else. But he always does. That is DIBS' style of inno play, which leads me AWAY from both of those two, because they are both innos trying to figure out HOW the other is a killer.

I'm going to go find the case on Lace now, post numbers about where that one is?

PS - if these are the quality of all the "cases", which is what I gathered from my skimming, I think we should kill JA while he sleeps and be done with it.

A little content, but basically all he says is what all the other vets know... Dibs is being Dibs, Morgy is being Morgy. Also, the second time he has asked for a case number. Not sure that means anything but there ya go.

Obdigore, on Oct 20 2008, 01:22 PM, said:

Lisheo 150
drinksinbars 90
Lacedaemonian 81
Tapper 79
Vengeance 78
Jump Around 74
Morgoth 72
Gem Windcaster 67
mocker 63
dktorode 52
The Dude 47
Obdigore 35
J_Slr 27
baudin 23
Yellow 22
Silencer 21
Gavin 17



And what have we here? Let me go look at Gavins', Silencers', Yellows', and Baudins' posts.

SO here he posts Post Count and wants to look at low posters...are you serious?!?!
He is 6th lowest and 75% of those are Spam Spam Wham Diddly Spam. If you need verification of this just search his first 25 posts. I am not going to quote them all. Suffice it to say, he does finger JA ...a lot. I mention this for a reason I will show in a second.

[Jump Around]

Here:

The Dude, on Oct 23 2008, 09:48 AM, said:

Obdigore, on Oct 20 2008, 01:28 PM, said:

Lisheo, on Oct 20 2008, 03:26 PM, said:

Hmmm have we stumbled onto something unusual here? I did say the killers would want to get rid of the more experienced members while they lay low... Have we got someone trying to start a train for reasons that aren't very nice?

Now Now Lisheo, the next poster having less than 2/3rds of your total posts can be seen as suspicious too.

This is interesting Lisheo thinks they are taking out the experienced ppl while laying low, obdi immediately rejects it and throws it back at Lish. Lish turned out to be very very correct.

Obdigore, on Oct 20 2008, 01:37 PM, said:

From Gavin:

Quote

Well looks to me the case on Morgoth is because he has sent a message to spoilers? If thats the case and it apparently, then thats gayer than a night out with Dibs.

Whats worse people are jumping on it. Come on people seriously we're voting people for sending messages to Spoilers? While Morgy has come across as a bit dodge still don't think its a case for voting on.

Since night is upon us soon and I need to go...
Vote Alt146

For being a little suspicious before and now just jumping on any bandwagon that looks like it might be the lynch.

Then he goes to bed. And he shows up the next day with this

Quote

Ok I'm here. So J_slr was the kill and people actually lynched Alt. Interesting, I find it rather strange, I put a vote on Alt for jumping on a weak Morgoth case and
then suddenly everyone else jumped on Alt as well with hardly any reasoning at all, seemed they wanted to start a train.

Lisheo has been very lynch happy, I know he's a noob and all, but I'm wondering about letting people get away with the noob card and all on us. I'm pretty sure I need to reread Gem as well, something about her struck me yesterday, will go back and do that.

Gavin then made a case against Gem, which I am not going to re-post because it is long and empty.

Gavin then did some brown-nosing with JA, and pointed out that that JA isn't playing as he normally does.

And his vote post from 3.5 hours ago

Quote

Well I am done for the day. Not sure what to make off Venges defence there but he's created some doubt for me.
Since i'm not around for the lynch and I was tossing up between Gem and Venge I guess I'll have to vote Gem. She didn't really seem to try or care about defending herself.

Vote Gem

I don't really see much there, either for him being innocent or guilty. I do see him saying JA isn't being his normal self, then later he brown-noses up. If this was a cult game I would think we had found a recruit.

More Crap thrown JA's way... Hoping it will stick... its not day 1 anymore. its not a joke anymore.

Obdigore, on Oct 20 2008, 02:08 PM, said:

At this point I would be willing to vote for, in order:

Gavin
Lace
Yellow


It appears the only one in there that is going to get any kind of votes is Lace, so that is where I am going to place my vote.

Quote

Vote Lacedaemonian

.

BTW - Gem the case against you is that you post, but don't "contribute". If you do keep that up I would be willing to vote for you tomorrow.

Obdigore, on Oct 20 2008, 02:55 PM, said:

Ahem.

Vote Lacedaemon

Yes I did mean to vote up there, but I'm not going to change it.

Im leaving work and won't be back for a couple hours I don't think, and so will mis the day time-out.

I don't really like the case against Lace either, but he has the most out of hte people I am willing to vote for and that is why my vote is there.

Who do we know that has a Vendetta against Lace?

Obdigore, on Oct 21 2008, 11:15 AM, said:

Old Yeller is about, look out!

La La La - Tell me JA, from 1-10, 1 being inno, 10 being scummiest of the scummy, where am I on the weasal scum-detectormatic?

Thought this was interesting. Gauging where you stand against the one you have been subtly trying to vote off?

Obdigore, on Oct 22 2008, 07:05 AM, said:

Or we can just lynch JA so he can join his boytoy Morgy in spoiler heaven.

And Back to the JA attempts. Thats every day that he has suggested a JA lynch.

Obdigore, on Oct 22 2008, 09:37 AM, said:

Jump Around, on Oct 22 2008, 11:35 AM, said:

Vengeance, on Oct 22 2008, 07:31 PM, said:

If you turn up scum then I won't have been screwing my team. Plus JA is still alive and that is his job.

Oh you mofo...

For the record I am called "Weasel" because I tend to screw the team I'm not with.

So you are going to screw team inno, and you screw the team you are not with?

Only one conlcusion:

DISCO-EVIL

Just more kill JA fodder. Obdi why don't you make a case and try to take him out if he is evil?

Obdigore, on Oct 22 2008, 12:09 PM, said:

This way I have mentioned everyone in the game as being on the list.

Fear me, mortals, for you cannot escape the all-knowing Discogore.

Bah... at this point I will vote for nearly anyone, but I think it would tickle my fancy to lynch Lacy today.

This quote just creeps me out like the puppet master

So i know this sounds like I am symping JA... whatever. I think Obdi is a killer, not a symp. Thats why I am voting him. I think that all the kills thus far have shown a veteran touch. The subtle joke by killing Gem, Getting rid of Dibs when he was just getting going. No more yellow because he wasn't going to make a case on Lace. There is some masterful work going on here. I am going to

vote obdigore

for these reasons. If he isn't the killer I don't know what to do as I don't think Venge is a killer. But whatever. we are getting down to the nitty gritty and I think a Veteran is playing with the field.

All the posts you ignored to focus on the "Poow Obdi gets WailWoaded " defense

[dktorode]

Lacedaemonian, on Oct 23 2008, 06:11 PM, said:

Gem was not interested and I dropped Tapper from my radar. I would not have Vig killed him.

Well next tmie you are a vig you are more than welcom to kill whomever you please.

Just remember, normally a vig doesnt use his power till end game, if at all. And normally there isnt a time limit.
I realize i could have fucked up the teams chances of winining by viggin Tapper, but i was just so sure. Anyways you will see in spoilers my reasons.
There is really no point now crying over spilled milk

[Lacedaemonian]

I now understand the paranoia that people have about the low (shit as fuck) posters. I do not mind losing the match (so much) against people actually applying some intellect and taking a few risks. To lose the match against people whose tactic is to not post would just be a slap in the face. Incidentally if they are Innocent then they do me no favours by leaving me to hang out to dry whilst they post about the merits of their favourite dirty hack authors!!!



On the flipside. I know I will not post as much in the next game. Too much spam from me and others makes case building messy. I will be a frequent poster but will only post on the game.





A lot of low posters/voters/case builders left in the game. Seems like a shite aspect of this game.