[mocker]

Lacedaemonian, on Oct 18 2008, 02:52 PM, said:

Lisheo, on Oct 18 2008, 02:44 PM, said:

No, I wouldn't call him a master, but he's definatly got an agenda there. He casts suspicion on Vengeance, then votes for Morgoth again, again giving no reason. Trying to start a train for his master, perhaps?

Lisheo you are one of the people swinging (dancing) with the mob who lynched Alt. I think the behaviours and activities of Vengence last night were very reactionary and he was clearly trying to divert attention away from the lynch mob. Lisheo was also involved in this. Are those two somehow bound together? But for me it comes back to Morg. I voted Morg as a joke but perhaps this opened up the proverbial can of worms. Something about my voting Morg seems to have struck a chord with people. Some more than others - which I am gussing could mean a few things.

has struck a chord your right Lace, but it doesnt seem to me to be for the reasons your now claiming. i think ppl just didnt like how you were voting someone based on such a terribly loose argument. and because in these games that is a good reason to find someone suspicious; you are now suspicious.

i dont think your helping yourself again by voting for the same guy based on the same loose ideas, this time all wrapped up with the ever helpful and ever proverbial can of worms.

This post has been edited by mocker: 18 October 2008 - 02:01 PM

[Lacedaemonian]

I am voting the same again to see what happens. I might change my vote as the day goes on. Depends on the reaction here. Still thinking about Veng.

[mocker]

yeah Venge seems to be a favourite today, am gona go back and re read his posts see if i get anythin from it.

i wana hear more from the less vocal players. they could just be sittin back bein the killers n all that n we'd never bastard know!

also Lace uve gotta be careful u dont start a war over who's pro Morgy, who's anti Morgy, and even who cant be assed with Morgy lol. wud be a bad thing as it seems to me that the killers wud get a free ride. pressure needs to be shown everywhere, cracks opened, cussers lobbed in, stamp on wat comes crawlin out

[Lisheo]

Hell, I'm pro-Morgy for the simple reason that Morgy didnt, in my eyes, do anything to deserve the train that began to get started. I do think that Alt's behaviour was dodgy, as is yours right now Lace. But then I cant prove anything, neither of you are related in any way that I can see to our departed friend J_Slr.

EDIT: And Alt was innocent, anyway, so that doesnt really matter lol

This post has been edited by Lisheo: 18 October 2008 - 02:17 PM

[mocker]

i duno where the fuck i stand lol

your all drawin lines and i dont agree

Morgy mite or mite not be innocent. as far as i can see he still could be either, along with a few other ppl.

[Gavin]

mocker, on Oct 18 2008, 10:18 PM, said:

i duno where the fuck i stand lol

your all drawin lines and i dont agree

Morgy mite or mite not be innocent. as far as i can see he still could be either, along with a few other ppl.

This is pretty much where I stand as well at the moment. Its time like these its time for a proper reread.

For me, I've got a few people who i'm suspicious of, Morgoth and Venge, both have been brought up a couple of times, but its hard to pin actually
anything on them.
JA has been not his usual self, got his head in a bit more, and doing a little prodding, makes me suspicious of the DiscoWeasel.

Then we have Lisheo and Lace who are a little lynch happy, and I still need to reread Gem. So really I haven't cut down the field much at all at this point.

[Lacedaemonian]

Sometimes you just have to draw some lines. I dont mind being lynched if it proves valuable. I am sure my vote will change as the day goes on. What time does today end?

[Lisheo]

Me and Lace are just dancing about each other really.
Ive found very little suspicious behaviour other than what Ive stated previously.
Im thinking that the killers probably haven't revealed anything about themselves yet, and Im not sure what to think about J_Slr's death.
DiBs said earlier that him getting killed is obviously a tactic to divert the blame from Morgy, but it could also be a tactic designed to put the blame on Morgy. J_Slr was fairly inoffensive, seems to me the only reason he was killed off was for voting Alt. (Or for insulting Gem ) Anyone got a list of all the people who voted Alt?

Gavin
J_Slr
Me
Gem
Vengeance
DiBs
Tapper
Mocker
The Dude
Jump Around


And thats all I can remember lol.

Edit: edited to change the names from bold to italic.

2nd Edit: edited to add in the rest of the people who voted Alt.

This post has been edited by Lisheo: 18 October 2008 - 03:40 PM

[Path-Shaper]

14 dancers still getting down: Dktorode, DrinksinBars, Gavin, Gem, Jump Around, Lacedaemonian, Lisheo, Mocker, Morgoth, Silencer, Tapper, The Dude,Vengeance, Yellow

8 votes to lynch, 7 to go to night.

2 Vote Morgoth (DiBs, Lacedaemonian)

12 Players yet to vote: Dktorode, Gavin, Gem, Jump Around, Lisheo, Mocker, Morgoth, Silencer, Tapper, The Dude, Vengeance, Yellow


Bent here....I just want to remind everyone that while there weekend break is in effect, the timer stops, however if you get a lynch we still move to night, and when all actions are turned in night ends and a new day begins. So please, if at all possible, contribute during the weekends to keep the game moving, last weekend we had 20 players, and I was modding a dead board (Or bored), there were only 20 posts over the course of 2 days. It sucked, some people cannot play on the weekends, and thats cool, but if you can, please do.

Now after saying that, I am fighting, a cold, the flu, pneumonia, or cancer, or something, and feel like shit, wont be on much myself, but i will check in occasionally, every 4 or 5 hours. Grief should be around, and Bubba will be on later.lots of help in heaven and I really appreciate that. later guys, have much fun

[Gem Windcaster]

Well that's a fine joke, killing off J_Slr, the killer(s) must be having fun. Ha. Ha. Now, if the killer(s) manages to have me lynched for it, that would just be peachy. <-- Look, now I've helped you on your way, I dare you to do it!


Not sure about Obdi's case on Morgy. Seems a bit wifom to me. Sure, if nothing else comes up on the whole day, but lets make some more cases. Haven't got a clue where to start, I need to reread.


Edit: spelling

This post has been edited by Gem Windcaster: 18 October 2008 - 03:20 PM

[Lisheo]

I notice Morgy himself didnt actually vote for Alt... Hmm.

[Vengeance]

Lacedaemonian, on Oct 18 2008, 08:52 AM, said:

Lisheo, on Oct 18 2008, 02:44 PM, said:

No, I wouldn't call him a master, but he's definatly got an agenda there. He casts suspicion on Vengeance, then votes for Morgoth again, again giving no reason. Trying to start a train for his master, perhaps?

Lisheo you are one of the people swinging (dancing) with the mob who lynched Alt. I think the behaviours and activities of Vengence last night were very reactionary and he was clearly trying to divert attention away from the lynch mob. Lisheo was also involved in this. Are those two somehow bound together? But for me it comes back to Morg. I voted Morg as a joke but perhaps this opened up the proverbial can of worms. Something about my voting Morg seems to have struck a chord with people. Some more than others - which I am gussing could mean a few things.

Your behavior in removing your vote from morgy after the lynch had occurred is what was scummy. You keep saying that you voting morgy as a joke but really that is all you did on day one. All of your posts were one sentence and you contributed nothing to anything.


Vote Lacedaemonian

[Tapper]

Haven't done a reread, but I think Morgoth was busy at the time defending the 'defending someone =/= symping someone' thesis. Might be he didn't vote because it would be constructed as diverting attention, might be because he wasn't online when the train started (remember, the train got rolling roughly an hour before the deadline), might be he wasn't interested in lynching alt146.

Since you need only 50% +1 for a lynch, it stands to reason that 50% -1 aren't on board a lynch

edit: spelling.

This post has been edited by Tapper: 18 October 2008 - 04:39 PM

[Vengeance]

Lacedaemonian, on Oct 18 2008, 09:02 AM, said:

I am voting the same again to see what happens. I might change my vote as the day goes on. Depends on the reaction here. Still thinking about Veng.

YOu can think about me all you want but you might want to try to post a little bit more then a sentence. I will not be changing my vote ever....

[Tapper]

Vengeance, on Oct 18 2008, 05:54 PM, said:

Lacedaemonian, on Oct 18 2008, 08:52 AM, said:

Lisheo, on Oct 18 2008, 02:44 PM, said:

No, I wouldn't call him a master, but he's definatly got an agenda there. He casts suspicion on Vengeance, then votes for Morgoth again, again giving no reason. Trying to start a train for his master, perhaps?

Lisheo you are one of the people swinging (dancing) with the mob who lynched Alt. I think the behaviours and activities of Vengence last night were very reactionary and he was clearly trying to divert attention away from the lynch mob. Lisheo was also involved in this. Are those two somehow bound together? But for me it comes back to Morg. I voted Morg as a joke but perhaps this opened up the proverbial can of worms. Something about my voting Morg seems to have struck a chord with people. Some more than others - which I am gussing could mean a few things.

Your behavior in removing your vote from morgy after the lynch had occurred is what was scummy. You keep saying that you voting morgy as a joke but really that is all you did on day one. All of your posts were one sentence and you contributed nothing to anything.


Vote Lacedaemonian

Also... J_slr I think (but it might be Yellow) warned that Lace isn't playing the game along conventional lines. I'll go quotedigging, and if it was our now-dead J_slr, then I'm very much going to put pressure on Lace by voting for him.

[Lisheo]

In defence of Lace even I think that would be too obvious a kill!

EDIT: I dont trust the fellow very much but hes too cunning for that I think. Maybe he's a symp. That's my best guess.

This post has been edited by Lisheo: 18 October 2008 - 04:00 PM

[Tapper]

J_Slr, on Oct 18 2008, 08:06 AM, said:

I went back and had a look at Lace's posts and two things occurred to me.

1. Lace does not seem to be taking anything seriously. I.E. it would appear he is still just messing around

and 2. It was painful! He has been posting here as well as in other threads, so I kept seeing posts I could not remember

@Silencer: Your a mod. How hard would it be to create a search function that would allow us to search a specific thread for a specific person.

Maybe I am being dense, but so far I have only found the search thread (which only looks at what was actually posted in thread) and the "Find members posts" which is shows all posts for a member, which in Baudin's case is painful because he posts so much in "first word that comes to mind"

Back ON TOPIC:

Will be interested to see how Lace plays come day 2.

Edit: Grammar

And here's the quote, not as strong as I thought it was, so will search Yellow's posts as well.
Notice how it was late at night, so I might be off and the kill-action could very well have been submitted a looooong time before J_slr posted this, but it could connect.

[Lisheo]

Well, Ive got two theorys about J_Slr's death right now.
1) The one I said earlier, he was killed for voting Alt. Which I think is the most likely.
or 2) Perhaps Lace's master, after realising who he was by the voting for Morgoth, paniced a bit and killed of J_Slr to prevent him suspecting any thing more. But I find this one hard to believe.

[Tapper]

Oh, and it wasn't Yellow, so this was the quote I meant.

To put on the pressure:

vote Lacedaemonian

[Tapper]

Lisheo, on Oct 18 2008, 06:08 PM, said:

Well, Ive got two theorys about J_Slr's death right now.
1) The one I said earlier, he was killed for voting Alt. Which I think is the most likely.
or 2) Perhaps Lace's master, after realising who he was by the voting for Morgoth, paniced a bit and killed of J_Slr to prevent him suspecting any thing more. But I find this one hard to believe.

I don't think he got killed for voting alt. The people who are on the train are traditionally more vulnerable than the people not on it, since they lynched an inno. Another (speed?) lynch on an inno-guy and people who went with both trains, especially if they don't give a lot of reasons, are under suspicion of lynching to lynch an inno.
Nor do I think J_slr was perceived a threat because of his contributions so far. Read his contributions and you'll see that there is not a whole lot of pointed substance and research into people's posts in them. There are a lot of people still alive and if something goes wrong, then especially a symp can dive under by creating chaos and fingering other people, so protecting Lace would be far too much of an investment.

I think J_slr got killed because the killers figured he could well be roled. Otherwise, they probably would have killed a high-poster that could be troublesome later on, which J_slr wasn't so far (27 posts, lower-middle end):

Poster Posts
Lisheo 90
Morgoth 63
drinksinbars 57
Vengeance 56
Jump Around 50
Path-Shaper 42
Gem Windcaster 40
Tapper 40
mocker 39
alt146 36
dktorode 33
Lacedaemonian 31
Obdigore 27
J_Slr 27
The Dude 24
baudin 16
Silencer 15
Bubba 15
Yellow 14
Gavin 10

(also: Bent 7, Grief 7)

This post has been edited by Tapper: 18 October 2008 - 04:18 PM