[Giles]

I'm not 100% sure about anyone except myself to be perfectly honest. am pretty sure about Dkt. JA just strikes me as the most likely to be scum especially as everyones theories seem to have him and ... as killers.
Now im going to bed, hopefully wont have to much to catch up on when i get back.

[mocker]

nite dude

[Lisheo]

Well, I've got my wonderful insomnia back again. Isn't it great. I shall reread the last couple of pages thoroughly, I don't think much was said though.

[Obdigore]

Lisheo, Baudin, and mocker/ja.

[Obdigore]

Anyway, thats my thought.

Busy workday tomorrow, so I will be on as I can, but don't expect much.

[The Dude]

Well, i'm back. Interesting turn of events... man I had a rough rough weekend. Sorry I couldn't make it here to play guys. Broke up with my GF of 4 years. Mafia kinda went back burner. I will be on for the next hour or so. And then tomorrow at about 8am PST.. not sure what that is GMT. Gonna go back and read up.

[The Dude]

OK My initial reaction is that I still think Baudin is a Killer. But I would also vote, JA or perhaps Lisheo. I am not sure on the Lisheo is symp of JA.. If I was a killer and my symp put me at L1 I would be pissed.... BUT if JA was symping Lysh... thats a possibility. JA has done a great job of attracting attention to himself the last couple days, and JA is smart enough to pull a stunt like that. Mocker.... If he is a killer is amazing, he had a chance to hammer 2 people and withheld both times. I am going back to look at the Obdi JA trains.

[The Dude]

OK I now doubt Baudin is a KIller. Did a re-read. Could have hammered Silencer and didn't and he defended me, when he didn't have to. I know I am inno and I don't think he would have done that if he was scum. Also, the reason I believe I am still alive is that I am leading a Baudin charge. The killer knows he is inno and wants to make sure we get him. Thats the only reason the Lace lynch makes sense. Why would you not get rid of me last night? I have NEVER been under a serious scrutiny I am pretty much a garunteed inno. Thats an easy kill for the Killers. Lace... no one knew about, true, direction had gone away from him.. but still he was an unknown. The killers know I am leading a charge. I was pulling hard for Baudin. SO based on that logic, I am CI(well to me anyway )If baudin is inno, then we have DKT as VPI. Obdi is a PI in my book (yeah yeah I am his symp...whatever. Look at his voting patters over the last few days... he is definately not voting and unvoting in a killer like manner. Though he was the hammer on silencer so I guesss that is killerish.) Other than Obdi, of the 4 people I have considered inno how many were on the silencer train????? NONE. it was (not in order)

Lisheo Mocker, JA, Who am I missing... was baudin on that train.. dammit I have to go back. 1 sec.

[Jump Around]

baudin, on Oct 27 2008, 02:25 AM, said:

JA just strikes me as the most likely to be scum especially as everyones theories seem to have him and ... as killers.
Now im going to bed, hopefully wont have to much to catch up on when i get back.

Again with this. Everyone has me as a killer? Who else than you, if you don't mind quoting?


Anyways,

vote Baudin


I don't need a case. He puts a vote on a inno and goes to bed. If it's three scum left, then he has lost us the game anyways, UNLESS he is scum himself.

This post has been edited by Jump Around: 27 October 2008 - 05:50 AM

[Jump Around]

And as of suspicions today, it would have been, in order:

Obdigore
Mocker
Baudin
Lisheo
The Dude
Dktorode.

The fact that there was no hammer on either me or Obdigore yesterday was buggin dktorode, and it made me think seriously too.

One thing is almost certain: one of us dead and CFed inno would have resulted in the other lynched. And I think everyone including Britney Spears had a chance to hammer on of us at some point. If Obdi and I are both inno, that's a dream scenario, and an almost win, for the scum team.

Now, if one of us in scum, then it's something else. Hammering scum is not good, obviously, and hammering the inno causes the scum to get lynched the next day, which is also not good. So what they had to do is to transfer the lynch to neutral territory.

I know I am inno, so Obdigore must be scum.

That's what I got thinking last night, and since, like I said, either Baudin is scum or we lost already, then all that becomes moot.

[Jump Around]

The Dude, on Oct 27 2008, 07:40 AM, said:

I have NEVER been under a serious scrutiny I am pretty much a garunteed inno.

Woa woa woa easy there tiger.

Today is a crucial day, and open to many surprises and discussions. Sentences like that would normally make my hair rise.

[The Dude]

OK it was Lisheo, Mocker, JA, Lace, and Obdi.

I know I am making a huge Logic leap here by assuming Obdi is inno but I am willing to bet my game on it (and like i said, I will change my avatar to "Obdi's Bitch" for the next game If he is a killer)

That means That both Killers HAD to be on the Silencer train. That leaves Lish, Mocker, and JA. The way I see it, I think Lisheo and Mocker are the Killers and JA is Lish's symp. Thats why Lish was willing to vote JA. He said ..sorry for lack of quote here. I am Rolling.

"*/sigh* if he (JA) comes up inno I I know who I am coming after The Dude and Obdi" No shit! Cause he knows JA will come up inno and can then lead a charge against two other innos and have a great case!

Thats Why JA can be so confident when he say "when the CF shows me inno you know where to look" cause he will come up inno. and guess who he is pointing the finger at usually? Obdi. cause he is inno. This is really making sense to me.

OK 2 holes I see... I am assuming Baudin is innocent. This is a Big hole. And I am assuming Obdi is innocent. Not as big in my eyes. But in Every scenario I run... JA is scum. I say we hit him first if he is killer...yay, if he is inno and we keep playing we will know we have our last symp. We then go to night, lose me or Dkt. We won't lose Baudin or Obdi as they are the only ones shooting a hole in my plans. I will probably die, whatever it will be confirmation my plan is on the right track. Then whoever is left can get Mocker and Lish. If you remaining innos really buy my plan, we can take out mocker or Lish now. At anyrate, in all of my plans mocker and JA come up inno. Baudin and Lish are interchangable. Therefore

Vote Mocker

This post has been edited by The Dude: 27 October 2008 - 07:08 AM

[The Dude]

Jump Around, on Oct 26 2008, 10:49 PM, said:

baudin, on Oct 27 2008, 02:25 AM, said:

JA just strikes me as the most likely to be scum especially as everyones theories seem to have him and ... as killers.
Now im going to bed, hopefully wont have to much to catch up on when i get back.

Again with this. Everyone has me as a killer? Who else than you, if you don't mind quoting?


Anyways,

vote Baudin


I don't need a case. He puts a vote on a inno and goes to bed. If it's three scum left, then he has lost us the game anyways, UNLESS he is scum himself.

This just confirms my suspicion. my vote stays.

[Jump Around]

The Dude, on Oct 27 2008, 07:40 AM, said:

OK I now doubt Baudin is a KIller. Did a re-read. Could have hammered Silencer and didn't and he defended me, when he didn't have to. I know I am inno and I don't think he would have done that if he was scum. Also, the reason I believe I am still alive is that I am leading a Baudin charge. The killer knows he is inno and wants to make sure we get him. Thats the only reason the Lace lynch makes sense. Why would you not get rid of me last night? I have NEVER been under a serious scrutiny I am pretty much a garunteed inno. Thats an easy kill for the Killers. Lace... no one knew about, true, direction had gone away from him.. but still he was an unknown. The killers know I am leading a charge. I was pulling hard for Baudin. SO based on that logic, I am CI(well to me anyway )If baudin is inno, then we have DKT as VPI. Obdi is a PI in my book (yeah yeah I am his symp...whatever. Look at his voting patters over the last few days... he is definately not voting and unvoting in a killer like manner. Though he was the hammer on silencer so I guesss that is killerish.) Other than Obdi, of the 4 people I have considered inno how many were on the silencer train????? NONE. it was (not in order)

Lisheo Mocker, JA, Who am I missing... was baudin on that train.. dammit I have to go back. 1 sec.

Woa woa woa, let's see the whole thing.

1) Baudin is probably not a killer because he didn't vote Silencer.
2) The ones that voted Silencer must be the killers.

3) Baudin is probably not a killer because the killers didn't kill you last night.

4) If Baudin is inno, dktorode is VPI, so logic fits since dktorode is VPI anyways
5) Obdigore is now PI even though he hammered Silencer (see point 1)

Damn, The Dude, if it makes you feel better, you lost me with this post. You go and invent absurd logical arguments, which you didn't do all week, to add VPI and PI next to Obdigore and Baudin.

[The Dude]

DKT I really want to hear your thoughts on this as you are the only one I truly trust. I will be on and off for the next 45 min. JA I look forward to Getting verbally bitch slapped by you in the next few minutes

[Jump Around]

The Dude, on Oct 27 2008, 08:02 AM, said:

OK 2 holes I see... I am assuming Baudin is innocent. This is a Big hole. And I am assuming Obdi is innocent.

There you go again. So you're ready to make assumptions today? We have a whole thread of analysis to do, and stop with the voting dammit!!!!

Let us discuss, THEN we vote

1 inno vote 1 inno = lost game.

[The Dude]

Jump Around, on Oct 26 2008, 11:07 PM, said:

The Dude, on Oct 27 2008, 07:40 AM, said:

OK I now doubt Baudin is a KIller. Did a re-read. Could have hammered Silencer and didn't and he defended me, when he didn't have to. I know I am inno and I don't think he would have done that if he was scum. Also, the reason I believe I am still alive is that I am leading a Baudin charge. The killer knows he is inno and wants to make sure we get him. Thats the only reason the Lace lynch makes sense. Why would you not get rid of me last night? I have NEVER been under a serious scrutiny I am pretty much a garunteed inno. Thats an easy kill for the Killers. Lace... no one knew about, true, direction had gone away from him.. but still he was an unknown. The killers know I am leading a charge. I was pulling hard for Baudin. SO based on that logic, I am CI(well to me anyway )If baudin is inno, then we have DKT as VPI. Obdi is a PI in my book (yeah yeah I am his symp...whatever. Look at his voting patters over the last few days... he is definately not voting and unvoting in a killer like manner. Though he was the hammer on silencer so I guesss that is killerish.) Other than Obdi, of the 4 people I have considered inno how many were on the silencer train????? NONE. it was (not in order)

Lisheo Mocker, JA, Who am I missing... was baudin on that train.. dammit I have to go back. 1 sec.

Woa woa woa, let's see the whole thing.

1) Baudin is probably not a killer because he didn't vote Silencer.
2) The ones that voted Silencer must be the killers.

3) Baudin is probably not a killer because the killers didn't kill you last night.

4) If Baudin is inno, dktorode is VPI, so logic fits since dktorode is VPI anyways
5) Obdigore is now PI even though he hammered Silencer (see point 1)

Damn, The Dude, if it makes you feel better, you lost me with this post. You go and invent absurd logical arguments, which you didn't do all week, to add VPI and PI next to Obdigore and Baudin.

Of course I lost you there JA I knew as soon as I put this up you would have a barrage of Quotes and hole shooting. Thats fine I expect that, I can only hope that all the other inno's see the logic in this argument. I am staking my game on it. I know I will now have a ton of my play scrutinized and I am willing to back up everything I have done. I fully expect to either be lynched today or have team inno win.

[Jump Around]

Hole shooting? Of course I'll hole shoot, isn't that what this game is about?

Admit that the points I raised are true, do you see that? Do you see that we can easily take your posts as clumsy attempts to Innocent Baudin (as well as Obdigore) based on air?

Why would you do this today?

This post has been edited by Jump Around: 27 October 2008 - 06:15 AM

[The Dude]

I think the killers made a big mistake in not lynching me last night. It just doesn't make sense to me to Lynch Lace instead of me. The only way it makes sense is if the Killers Wanted me alive to lead the charge on Baudin. AND lol the very first thing you did before you read my post was vote Baudin! It just backs up my claim.

Like I said JA I am staking my game on this. You can try to reason with me or laugh at me or vote me. But I believe this. It all fits together to nicely to be cooincidence.

This post has been edited by The Dude: 27 October 2008 - 06:20 AM

[The Dude]

Jump Around, on Oct 26 2008, 11:14 PM, said:

Hole shooting? Of course I'll hole shoot, isn't that what this game is about?

Admit that the points I raised are true, do you see that? Do you see that we can easily take your posts as clumsy attempts to Innocent Baudin (as well as Obdigore) based on air?

Why would you do this today?

Absolutely. Like I said, I am making logic leaps. But I believe this strongly. If you don't agree with me, feel free to vote me off. It all makes sense to me. BUT JA say you are inno.... that just means Baudin is the symp.. Switch you and baudin fine... but at worst he is a symp. Mocker and Lish are the killers. I would think you would want to vote one of them