[Cause]

Was shopping at a Macys a coule days ago for new jeans. While I waas there I saw a man trying to exit the building get swarmed by security and escorted to the office.

Went back last night to return one pair of the jeans and noticed that a section of the store I hadnt looked at before had all the shirts basically chained to eachother on tables, or chained to the rack. Dont know if I never noticed it before or if it was new but I dont want to shop at a store that requires me to request a key everytime I want to try on a shirt. This is not normal.

I took pictures because I thought it was so crazy. Ill try post them later. Anyone ever seen this before. I mean it makes shopping in these stores feel gross. If this becomes the norm I am sure ill abandon shopping there.

[Abyss]

Cause, on 12 May 2023 - 02:41 PM, said:

Was shopping at a Macys a coule days ago for new jeans. While I waas there I saw a man trying to exit the building get swarmed by security and escorted to the office.

Went back last night to return one pair of the jeans and noticed that a section of the store I hadnt looked at before had all the shirts basically chained to eachother on tables, or chained to the rack. Dont know if I never noticed it before or if it was new but I dont want to shop at a store that requires me to request a key everytime I want to try on a shirt. This is not normal.

I took pictures because I thought it was so crazy. Ill try post them later. Anyone ever seen this before. I mean it makes shopping in these stores feel gross. If this becomes the norm I am sure ill abandon shopping there.

Your money, your clothes, you do what you decide, but the problem isn't the store, it's the people stealing from the store.

[Cause]

I don't disagree but I also think there are smarter ways to deal with the issue.t

South Africa is famous for crime but I never worked into a store once in all my time there that had body wash under lock and key or had Shirts chained to tables. A few common, small and easily stolen items like baby formulae, condoms or razor blades would be behind a specific counter in the store but I didn't feel like I was shopping in a prison.

If every shirt is locked and I need to request a key to try it on the store is creating a hostile user environment.

Hire more staff, control the entrances and exits if necessary.

[QuickTidal]

Abyss, on 12 May 2023 - 03:25 PM, said:

Cause, on 12 May 2023 - 02:41 PM, said:

Was shopping at a Macys a coule days ago for new jeans. While I waas there I saw a man trying to exit the building get swarmed by security and escorted to the office.

Went back last night to return one pair of the jeans and noticed that a section of the store I hadnt looked at before had all the shirts basically chained to eachother on tables, or chained to the rack. Dont know if I never noticed it before or if it was new but I dont want to shop at a store that requires me to request a key everytime I want to try on a shirt. This is not normal.

I took pictures because I thought it was so crazy. Ill try post them later. Anyone ever seen this before. I mean it makes shopping in these stores feel gross. If this becomes the norm I am sure ill abandon shopping there.

Your money, your clothes, you do what you decide, but the problem isn't the store, it's the people stealing from the store.

Indeed.

The only similar thing I've seen in Toronto is at like Rexall and Shoppers Drug Mart they've locked all the shaving gear, blades, new packages, ect. so you need to get a store worker to let you get one to go buy. I've never seen it with clothes.

My brother in law's store is in Northern Canada and his biggest issue is locals coming in and guzzling/drinking the hand sanitizer and then leaving....yeah....

anyhow, how is Macy's (a fairly big store/company no?) nickel and diming for merch like that? Most stores here just accept that stealing is a thing, workers aren't supposed to do anything about it, and that's just all figured into the insurance. Like how is Macy's not insured enough to handle petty theft without locking down CLOTHES?

super Weird.

But yeah Abyss is right, theft is rampant in retail stores and in this economy, I bet it's amped into the stratosphere.

EDIT: We should go back to old-timey department stores where the wares were behind the counter, and the staff would go get what you wanted. Bonus if they do it in Bowler hats!

This post has been edited by QuickTidal: 12 May 2023 - 03:52 PM

[Azath Vitr (D'ivers]

Cause, on 12 May 2023 - 02:41 PM, said:

Was shopping at a Macys a coule days ago for new jeans. While I waas there I saw a man trying to exit the building get swarmed by security and escorted to the office.

Went back last night to return one pair of the jeans and noticed that a section of the store I hadnt looked at before had all the shirts basically chained to eachother on tables, or chained to the rack. Dont know if I never noticed it before or if it was new but I dont want to shop at a store that requires me to request a key everytime I want to try on a shirt. This is not normal.

I took pictures because I thought it was so crazy. Ill try post them later. Anyone ever seen this before. I mean it makes shopping in these stores feel gross. If this becomes the norm I am sure ill abandon shopping there.

They do that with books too in some places....




(Mostly in the Middle Ages, though some still survive.)

The Last Surviving Chained Libraries

It does risk breeding resentment. Same argument has been made about bulletproof barriers for cashiers / employees behind the counter---attempts to ban them, despite the fatal shootings of cashiers.... But obviously shoplifting isn't anywhere near as serious as that. So the chains might end up getting banned.

They're a primitive form of 'automation' that ultimately creates extra work (assuming it isn't possible to try clothes on without removing the chains... one of many ways in which (most) clothes aren't quite as adaptable as (most) books).

Better to have storewide surveillance by AI, with some automated mechanism to effectively stop people from leaving the store. Ideally something that wouldn't put other people at risk and wouldn't physically endanger the possible shoplifter---maybe something like an air lock between the store and the outside world (though that might require multiple airlock-exits...).

[Abyss]

QuickTidal, on 12 May 2023 - 03:50 PM, said:

Abyss, on 12 May 2023 - 03:25 PM, said:

Cause, on 12 May 2023 - 02:41 PM, said:

Was shopping at a Macys a coule days ago for new jeans. While I waas there I saw a man trying to exit the building get swarmed by security and escorted to the office.

Went back last night to return one pair of the jeans and noticed that a section of the store I hadnt looked at before had all the shirts basically chained to eachother on tables, or chained to the rack. Dont know if I never noticed it before or if it was new but I dont want to shop at a store that requires me to request a key everytime I want to try on a shirt. This is not normal.

I took pictures because I thought it was so crazy. Ill try post them later. Anyone ever seen this before. I mean it makes shopping in these stores feel gross. If this becomes the norm I am sure ill abandon shopping there.

Your money, your clothes, you do what you decide, but the problem isn't the store, it's the people stealing from the store.

Indeed.

The only similar thing I've seen in Toronto is at like Rexall and Shoppers Drug Mart they've locked all the shaving gear, blades, new packages, ect. so you need to get a store worker to let you get one to go buy. I've never seen it with clothes.

My brother in law's store is in Northern Canada and his biggest issue is locals coming in and guzzling/drinking the hand sanitizer and then leaving....yeah....

anyhow, how is Macy's (a fairly big store/company no?) nickel and diming for merch like that? Most stores here just accept that stealing is a thing, workers aren't supposed to do anything about it, and that's just all figured into the insurance. Like how is Macy's not insured enough to handle petty theft without locking down CLOTHES?

super Weird.

But yeah Abyss is right, theft is rampant in retail stores and in this economy, I bet it's amped into the stratosphere.

EDIT: We should go back to old-timey department stores where the wares were behind the counter, and the staff would go get what you wanted. Bonus if they do it in Bowler hats!

Consumers Distributing was ahead of its time.

[Lady Bliss]

Had a seizure least night at about 2 am. Got to the emergency room and they’ve admitted me

[RealGatekeeper1]

Hope your recovery goes well, Lady Bliss. That is scary.

[Tiste Simeon]

Lady Bliss, on 13 May 2023 - 01:42 PM, said:

Had a seizure least night at about 2 am. Got to the emergency room and they’ve admitted me

Oh gosh that's terrifying, hoping and praying for a quick recovery.

[Maark Abbott]

The Politicians are Greedy Twats Engineered Situation (aka Cost of Living Crisis) - did our weekly food shop today, didn't need cat litter or bog roll and thank goodness for it, because despite buying all Smartprice stuff, it came to near on £40! A couple of months back the same shop would have barely scratched £25. It's not easy when you're poverty gang, although the other thread will elaborate on that situation a bit...

[TheRetiredBridgeburner]

Lady Bliss, on 13 May 2023 - 01:42 PM, said:

Had a seizure least night at about 2 am. Got to the emergency room and they've admitted me

Hope you have a quick recovery!

Messing with my groove: finally had to give in and accept my sound sensitivity is out of control at the moment. It's been years since I was this bad. Hopeful it will sort itself out when the move is over and we don't have all that stress and are no longer living next to the monsters next door, because I'm pretty sure it's the lack of quiet and inability to relax in the house that's ramped it up. On the positive its taken 15 months of living here to get this bad, but its now deeply unpleasant and starting to affect me in most situations. Had my first bout of full on sensory overload (everything is one too loud volume, lights are too bright, everything smells too strong etc) in about a decade a few weeks ago, and have had three since. That really can't continue.

Have ordered some Loop everyday earplugs that are supposed to be able to be worn so you can still hear conversation with the person you're speaking to, but cut down a lot of background. Fingers crossed they make a difference.

[Lady Bliss]

So sorry to hear that TRB, I’ve heard that can be awful. I hope the ear plugs work. Have you checked in with the doctor about it? In 10 years they could have made some innovations in that area.

I’m feeling better, it just takes a couple of days to feel right. I’m now seeing a neurologist and he’s started me on seizure meds. Also there will be some lifestyle changes. Sadly my wine after work days are over, but honestly that’s not a big deal. I’ll just have to get used to having club soda if I go to the pub to hang out with friends. Much better than the alternative I can tell you!

[QuickTidal]

TheRetiredBridgeburner, on 17 May 2023 - 08:15 AM, said:

Messing with my groove: finally had to give in and accept my sound sensitivity is out of control at the moment. It's been years since I was this bad. Hopeful it will sort itself out when the move is over and we don't have all that stress and are no longer living next to the monsters next door, because I'm pretty sure it's the lack of quiet and inability to relax in the house that's ramped it up. On the positive its taken 15 months of living here to get this bad, but its now deeply unpleasant and starting to affect me in most situations. Had my first bout of full on sensory overload (everything is one too loud volume, lights are too bright, everything smells too strong etc) in about a decade a few weeks ago, and have had three since. That really can't continue.

Have ordered some Loop everyday earplugs that are supposed to be able to be worn so you can still hear conversation with the person you're speaking to, but cut down a lot of background. Fingers crossed they make a difference.

This sounds so much like me. My sound sensitivity has gotten really bad and my wife points out how often I can't deal with it. Like we will be in the car, both kids will be loudly talking or shouting with each other, the radio will be going, and the noise of the traffic all at once and I have to plug my ears otherwise I feel like I'm going have a breakdown.

I never used to be this bad. I've always enjoyed the quiet, but this has become a really insistent thing....I didn't know others experienced it like me.

I'm going to look into these Loop earplugs, they sound like they might help. Hope yours gets better!

[Tiste Simeon]

Oh dang TRB and QT that doesn't sound fun. I'll send you a recording of me talking in my soothing Yorkshire tones that should do the trick!

Bliss - glad to hear you're ok and I hope you continue to heal!

MWMG - I may have Type 2 diabetes. It's not confirmed yet and it seems as though we've "caught" it early enough that if I make some lifestyle changes and possibly go on meds it shouldn't be a big issue but it's still not fun to be told that.

[Azath Vitr (D'ivers]

Elon Musk apparently decided to make Tesla-bot look like a cross between Terminators and Aliens:

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Not only does this deprive the Tesla Bot of its ability to comfort potentially nervous onlookers with a warm smile, but it also evokes the black, shiny eyeless visage of the Alien series' Xenomorphs. Not exactly a face that says, "Invite me onto your city streets and welcome me into human society,"

Tesla Robots Finally Revealed And They Are Nightmares (giantfreakinrobot.com)

While I'm lol this is a terrible idea. Looks more like a far-right dystopian fantasy troll than a legitimate attempt to further the technology---maybe to drown out coverage of how Tesla is almost certainly still far behind other robotics developers like Figure?

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[Macros]

Tiste Simeon, on 17 May 2023 - 01:30 PM, said:

Oh dang TRB and QT that doesn't sound fun. I'll send you a recording of me talking in my soothing Yorkshire tones that should do the trick!

Bliss - glad to hear you're ok and I hope you continue to heal!

MWMG - I may have Type 2 diabetes. It's not confirmed yet and it seems as though we've "caught" it early enough that if I make some lifestyle changes and possibly go on meds it shouldn't be a big issue but it's still not fun to be told that.

Cut out as much ultra processed food as possible ASAP.
This will be harder than you realise, as its basically in everything on the shop shelves.
Look at the ingredients, if you couldn't make it in the kitchen, it's likely full of super processed shit.
Even things like "maize starch" or "potato starch" they are reductions and chemical recovered stuff. Whole ingredients only is a good guide, as the average UK persons diet is not 60% upf, and it fucks up out metabolisms and insides

[Tiste Simeon]

Yup just healthy, wholesome food like chicken nuggets from now on!

[Azath Vitr (D'ivers]

Tiste Simeon, on 18 May 2023 - 02:39 PM, said:

Yup just healthy, wholesome food like chicken nuggets from now on!

Hopefully you're kidding but

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ultra-processed foods include things like chicken nuggets

What are Ultra-Processed Foods, and are they Harmful? – Cleveland Clinic Newsroom

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In the UK we get around 60% of our calories from UPFs, and that figure is even higher for young people. At this point, it is our national food culture, and the material we build our children’s bodies from. [...] It [...] include[s] all supermarket bread; likewise breakfast cereal; packaged snacks, reconstituted meat products and [almost all] frozen meals. And beware: lots of UPFs are being marketed as healthy, nutritious or useful for weight loss.

The big idea: why we need a new definition of junk food | Food and drink books | The Guardian

Bread isn't as good for you as ice cream anyway---especially if you're diabetic.

[Abyss]

Tiste Simeon, on 18 May 2023 - 02:39 PM, said:

Yup just healthy, wholesome food like chicken nuggets from now on!

In related news i just learned that chicken diapers are a thing.

[QuickTidal]

Macros, on 18 May 2023 - 01:59 PM, said:

Tiste Simeon, on 17 May 2023 - 01:30 PM, said:

Oh dang TRB and QT that doesn't sound fun. I'll send you a recording of me talking in my soothing Yorkshire tones that should do the trick!

Bliss - glad to hear you're ok and I hope you continue to heal!

MWMG - I may have Type 2 diabetes. It's not confirmed yet and it seems as though we've "caught" it early enough that if I make some lifestyle changes and possibly go on meds it shouldn't be a big issue but it's still not fun to be told that.

Cut out as much ultra processed food as possible ASAP.
This will be harder than you realise, as its basically in everything on the shop shelves.
Look at the ingredients, if you couldn't make it in the kitchen, it's likely full of super processed shit.
Even things like "maize starch" or "potato starch" they are reductions and chemical recovered stuff. Whole ingredients only is a good guide, as the average UK persons diet is not 60% upf, and it fucks up out metabolisms and insides

Agreed and adding that the Mediterranean diet (not a diet really, more a group of whole food recipes to eat) will work against pre-diabetic and diabetic AND acid reflux to boot. We try to eat it a few times a week. I have recipe book my wife got me.