[Gnaw]

HiddenOne, on 14 December 2012 - 04:19 PM, said:

about to have a meeting with clients wherein I shall state that I am tired of worrying about running their business for them, while they sit at home, without adequate compensation

Any advice from the peanut gallery?

Edit: commas are good

Call them low posting scum?

[HiddenOne]

Gnaw, on 14 December 2012 - 08:46 PM, said:

HiddenOne, on 14 December 2012 - 04:19 PM, said:

about to have a meeting with clients wherein I shall state that I am tired of worrying about running their business for them, while they sit at home, without adequate compensation

Any advice from the peanut gallery?

Edit: commas are good

Call them low posting scum?

thanks, Gnaw

meeting passed, client has agreed to begin handling his own biz more, so now I have to figure out how to get a little more money from less stress and similar hours

[Silencer]

I hate this time of year.


Also, the more immediate groove messing cause; as with most everybody else on the planet today, I think - the Connecticut shooting.

[Loki]

Obviously the Connecticut shooting is a terrible tragedy and my thoughts and prayers are with everyone involved but what is messing with my groove as well is the response certain people have had to it.

[Ain't_It_Just_]

I don't want to sound like a whinger, what with the Connecticut shootings, but this has got me climbing the walls.

Here's how it is. Today I went to a friends birthday party. Another close friend of mine was not invited, and this was one of several recent snubbings. I told her that I was going, and after she'd cursed other friend into oblivion, turned her anger on me. Said that I should have +1'ed her, that I should have stuck up for her and that now, apparently, we are no longer on speaking terms because "you have to he a friend in order to have a friend."

I don't even...Am I supposed to be a fucking mind reader? Is it my duty to ensure she gets invited to every shindig? Even though I've done that often in the past, this time I forgot, as I was preoccupied with other things. And it seems that I get one strike, and I'm out.

[Dutch]

The shooting in CT really messes with my groove.

But seriously, blame a game like Mass Effect? How f*c*i*g mindless some people can be.

Innocent lives are lost because of this game.

There is blood on your hands.

Some of the comments that were posted on the Mass Effect FB page.

[Munken89]

bummed that one of my neighbours apparently decided arson was the way to get revenge or something, cue waking up at 7 in the morning with firetrucks and smoke jippi.. brother just got back from overseas too.....

[Loki]

Briar King, on 15 December 2012 - 05:23 PM, said:

Wait, wait,wait, people are blaming this fucker killing kids on Mass Effect?

The media misreported that the suspect was the killer's brother at the start (Ryan Lanza, not Adam Lanza) and because he had 'liked' Mass Effect on his facebook account some people felt that obviously meant he must have killed people because of the games. Cos you know, people never harmed each other before video games existed.

http://www.examiner....end-video-games

http://m.kotaku.com/...rassingly-wrong

http://www.escapistm...cticut-shooting

This post has been edited by Loki: 15 December 2012 - 06:53 PM

[Loki]

Dear Media,

Autism isn't a form of mental illness - it's a developmental disorder. Try and report something correctly.

Cheers.

This post has been edited by Loki: 16 December 2012 - 02:53 AM

[Adjutant Stormy~]

Dear Loki,

The media is retarded.

Love, Everyone.

[Lucifer's Heaven]

Loki, on 16 December 2012 - 02:47 AM, said:

Dear Media,

Autism isn't a form of mental illness - it's a developmental disorder. Try and report something correctly.

Cheers.

Dear Loki,

Psychological developmental disorders are a type of mental illness/disorder.

Cheers.

This post has been edited by Lucifer's Heaven: 16 December 2012 - 07:17 AM

[Loki]

Lucifer, on 16 December 2012 - 07:11 AM, said:

Loki, on 16 December 2012 - 02:47 AM, said:

Dear Media,

Autism isn't a form of mental illness - it's a developmental disorder. Try and report something correctly.

Cheers.

Dear Loki,

Psychological developmental disorders are a type of mental illness/disorder.

Cheers.

Because I can't be bothered going into great detail when you can look it up yourself - here's a few quick definitions of Developmental Disorder and Mental Disorder/Illness.

'A developmental disorder is any condition that appears at some stage in a child's development and delays the development of one or more psychological functions, such as language skill. Developmental disorders include psychological and physical disorders, for example autism or dyslexia. Developmental disorders are an impairment in the normal development of motor or cognitive skills that are developed before age 22. They are usually expected to continue indefinitely, and there usually is no cure'

'A mental disorder or mental illness is a psychological pattern or anomaly, potentially reflected in behavior, that is generally associated with distress or disability, and which is not considered part of normal development of a person's culture. Mental disorders are generally defined by a combination of how a person feels, acts, thinks or perceives. This may be associated with particular regions or functions of the brain or rest of the nervous system, often in a social context.'

As defined by the US Congress:
According to the Developmental Disabilities Act (Pub.L.106-402), the term developmental disability means a severe, chronic disability that:

- is attributable to a mental or physical impairment or a combination of those impairments;
- occurs before the individual reaches age 22;
- is likely to continue indefinitely;
- results in substantial functional limitations in three or more of the following areas of major life activity: (i) self care, (ii) receptive and expressive language, (iii) learning, (iv) mobility, (v) self-direction, (vi) capacity for independent living, and (vii) economic self-sufficiency; and
- reflects the individual's need for a combination and sequence of special, interdisciplinary, or generic services, individualized supports, or other forms of assistance that are of lifelong or extended duration and are individually planned and coordinated.


According to the NSW government:
Developmental disability is a severe, chronic disability which is attributable to intellectual or physical impairment, is manifested before the person attains the age of 18, is likely to continue indefinitely and results in functional limitations in three or more of the following areas of major life activity: self-care; receptive and expressive language; learning; mobility; self-direction; capacity for independent living and economic self-sufficiency.

NSW Inquiry into Health Services for the Psychiatrically Ill and Developmentally Disabled 1983, Part 2, pp

Australian Law defines developmental disorders as being seperate from mental illness.

The basic model for assessing the difference between a developmental disorder and a mental illness in Australia is:

Developmental Disorder:

Thoughts are limited by cognitive ability and understanding.

Is lifelong and will not dissipate.

Onset occurs before 18 years of age.

Medication cannot restore cognitive ability. (Keyword being 'restore' - medication can aid/help but not 'fix')

Assessed by a psychologist

Mental Illness:

Disturbances in thought processes and perception. May experience hallucinations and delusions.

May be temporary, cyclical or episodic.

Onset can occur at any stage of life.

Medication can be prescribed to control the symptoms.

Diagnosed by a psychiatrist.



A developmental disorder is seperate from a mental illness (though the two often go hand-in-hand).

This post has been edited by Loki: 16 December 2012 - 09:20 AM

[Lucifer's Heaven]

Okay, so I oversimplified it.

There is a fair bit of overlap in the two definitions you give.

It also depends on which set of definitions you use. Quite a few places list mental illness and mental disorder as interchangeable.
And in fact the DSM (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders) which is the standard psychiatry reference of the American Psychiatric Association lists Autism as a mental disorder.
Oh, as does the International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems as written by the World Health Organisation.

While there is a difference between mental illness and developmental disorder, they do have overlap. And in the case of autism they were arguably correct to label it a mental illness anyway. So quibbling over something that is this close when it comes to general use is kinda pointless. And these can definitions change too.

This post has been edited by Lucifer's Heaven: 16 December 2012 - 10:20 AM

[Puck]

I think the problem with labelling it a "mental illness" like the media likes to do is that it instantly provokes images of "teh crazy!" and all the potential subconscious fear that goes with it for many people, which in turn demonizes it even more. Whether autism is a mental illness or a developmental disorder or both is up for debate but "mental illness" has become too much of a catch phrase to throw it around thoughtlessly.

Which is what messes with my groove.

[Lucifer's Heaven]

Yeah, which is unfortunate.
I'd much rather the term mental illness became common place enough that it was dissociated from that stigma.
After all, that's part of the problem with depression and some other common ones. People don't want to go get help because they don't like to think they have something with those connotations.

[Sparrohawk]

Media regularly screws with the definitions of both, and they'll say whichever gets them better ratings. An uninformed watcher seeing some autistic or Asperger's behaviours could easily believe it's a mental illness (screaming, stimming, pika, etc).

Simon Baron-Cohen wrote an article back in 2008 calling for Asperger's and high-end Autism to be classified differently to disorders, as generally their core symptoms can't be classified as maladaptive or otherwise disordered, per se. The weird shit that we get up to is symptomatic of a bad 'interface' with the rest of humanity rather than a core issue. Or so evidence beyond my immediate comprehension says, anyway

As for groove-screwing, I guess I'm pissed off that the coffee at my local Merlo is rapidly decreasing in quality. Damn holidays.

[MTS]

My sister's best friend (who is like a daughter to my family) lost her dad to a heart attack this morning. Still feels so surreal.

[Loki]

Season one finale of Grimm


Edit: Sorry to hear that, MTS. I hope your friend, her family and your family are okay (as much as can be expected, that is).

This post has been edited by Loki: 17 December 2012 - 01:51 PM

[Abyss]

Loki, on 17 December 2012 - 01:49 PM, said:

Season one finale of Grimm

....

If it helps, S2 gets better.

Mostly. There are still some incredibly weak eps, but overall the series improves i thought.

[Loki]

Abyss, on 17 December 2012 - 03:24 PM, said:

Loki, on 17 December 2012 - 01:49 PM, said:

Season one finale of Grimm

....

If it helps, S2 gets better.

Mostly. There are still some incredibly weak eps, but overall the series improves i thought.

Started watching the first episode of season 2 but stopped after

Spoiler

his 'mother' explains that her friend was wrongly identified as being her and that dental records were no good because the killers took her head. Really? Because I can understand police labelling it as an accident despite one of the victims heads being missing (extreme sarcasm) The investigating officer told Nick in the Cinderella episode that it wasn't labelled a homicide until a year after the incident occurred. And Nick's a bloody cop - as if he didn't read the crime scene report. Did he just somehow forget or overlook the fact that his mother's head had been stolen? Bleh...

I've really enjoyed it up until now despite it not being my usual cup of tea but I'm worried about the direction the story is going and the future quality of the writing. I'll give the first few episodes of season two a fair go tomorrow and hopefully find enough reasons to keep going.

Edit: And the season two title sequence - wtf? Please tell me they get rid of the 80's daytime tv inspired beginning. Days of Our Lives meets the A-team.

This post has been edited by Loki: 17 December 2012 - 03:46 PM