[Gamelon]

Dudes, we can't just hit someone and hope we get it right. We have to be sure dammit!

[Tellan]

Morgoth, on Oct 1 2008, 02:42 PM, said:

The Faceless Man - The Faceless Man is one of those men who blends in. You don't remember him, no matter where you met him. This makes him not only an excellent hitman, but also an unmatched impersinator.

Once a night the FM can pick a player which place he wishes to take. The first night he spends making ready. Learning the persons habits, singularities etc. The second night he kills the person unless he has changed his mind inbetween. At the end of the second night, the FM learns the password of the new account and takes control of it (all pms having been cleared in advance). The FMs old alt will be listed as dead, and will be to shown by the CF to have been inhabited by the player who originaly used the FMs new alt. To use an example: Player 1 is the FM and inhabits Meanas. Player 2 inhabits D'riss. the FM takes the D'riss alt, and Meanas is anounced dead with Player 2 inhabiting it.

Why would the FM not change his mind and wait another couple of days. It seemed obvious Gam was Nouv, and that most likely he would go down soon. Omtose and Shadow were hard to figure, I only pegged Shadow today. So I agree with Kas that Shadow is the most likely. I'd like to hear his defense, but if he hasn't posted before I go to sleep I will vote for him.

[Gamelon]

Hey, imbeciles, no need to rush anything, lets discuss some more.

[Kaschan]

Galain, on Oct 13 2008, 04:33 PM, said:

Kaschan, on Oct 13 2008, 09:27 PM, said:

I think that, especially after the end-of-day-2 fiasco, gamelon would have been too visble (i.e, had too many people pissed off at him) to make a good FM target.
Shadow managed to stay almost completely off the radar--just what the FM would be looking for, imho. at the end of yesterday, Shadow didn't reaveal much more of himself either. Leaving him a good FM target. I had a hard time figuring out which family he was with, and I had the added bonus of knowing my don to draw conclusions. the FM wouldn't know that, so it's easy to assume he made a mistake when picking Shadow.
Shadow's play made it just as easy to thonk he was a Corleone or a Di Lauro.

but wen he would have chosen to go for Gamelon (as it takes 2 weeks), Gam wud still only have been a middling player, reasonable post count, not a lot of enemies etc etc... and only after that did shit start to crumble around Gam. the FM might hav felt it necessary to carry on the swap. and now we have a quieter Gamelon which is a wee bit out of character...

EDIT: shit grammar again, warblings are ever full of errors

ok, it's day 4
FM switched Night 3
meaning, he could have prepared the body Night 1 OR night 2.
IF it was Gamelon:
Night 1--FM prepares the body. Gamelon is pretty much an unknown
Night 2- FM should switch. Gamelon just got into shit for not voting, people hate him
the FM could either prepare a new body, or wait.
suppose he waits.
Night 3 --Gamelon is still suspicious, he's blatantly a Nouv, and some people still want him dead.

OR:
night 1 or 2: FM chooses Shadow who's a very average, below the radar player.
Night 3 -Shadow is STILL an unnoticed, below the radar player. no clue which faction he's on. FM shifts.

to me, at leastm the second scenario seems more reasonable.

[Gamelon]

Barghast, on Oct 13 2008, 09:41 PM, said:

Gamelon, on Oct 13 2008, 08:39 PM, said:

Hey, imbeciles, no need to rush anything, lets discuss some more.

Why? You have no chance of winning whatsoever.

Oh rly?

[Galain]

Gamelon, on Oct 13 2008, 09:37 PM, said:

Wtf, Galain, what's your motherfucking problem you hypocrite! I'm not out of character, I'm just taking this seriously.

woh lol
dude was only musing, but as was writing it you appeared again n convinced me otherwise, or at least threw me back onto shadow instead. was only coz hadn't heard from you wile ive been on! makes a boyo paranoid!! hypocrites a bit far

This post has been edited by Galain: 13 October 2008 - 08:45 PM

[Tellan]

Barghast, on Oct 13 2008, 10:39 PM, said:

Tellan, on Oct 13 2008, 08:30 PM, said:

Barghast, on Oct 13 2008, 10:24 PM, said:

Ok. There are 3 Nouvs, Omtose, Shadow, and Gamelon.

We lynch one today. We lynch the other one tommorow. And the remaining dons (there is one alive I'm certain of) probably haven't used up all of their investigations/kills. So, they target one of the remaining Nouveletta players during the night. If that player is the clan leader, he will die. Chances of us taking out the FM are 83%.

That's a good plan. I dont like giving the triad extra time though. I'm not sure how you get 83%. I dont like the risk that we'll take out the two who ARENT the FM then be in the exact same situation two days from now.

Plus, one of them could be a triad member. Joy to the world...

83%? Simply.

Chances of us taking out a triad member in the first shot - 33%

Chances of a don hitting an FM - 50%*66%=33%

Chances of us getting the second lynch right - 50%*33%=17%

Add it up....83%.

Ok - though to nitpick it should be (1-.66*.5*.5) Somehow that still adds up to 83% though

[Emurlahn]

Gam, everyone thinks the FM is one of you, so at least one will probably be lynched. Possibly more. That leaves you 2 players. Not much chance of getting a majority with 2. You've been rather fucked up by the modkills, which have been shit this game, so BOOO to everyone who got modkilled.

[Gamelon]

Galain, on Oct 13 2008, 08:42 PM, said:

Gamelon, on Oct 13 2008, 09:37 PM, said:

Wtf, Galain, what's your motherfucking problem you hypocrite! I'm not out of character, I'm just taking this seriously.

woh lol
dude was only musing, but as was writing it you appeared again n convinced me otherwise, or at least threw me back onto shadow instead. was only coz hadn't heard from you wile ive been on! makes a boyo paranoid!! hypocrites a bit far

Not for this alt it isn't.

[Omtose]

Gamelon, on Oct 13 2008, 04:38 PM, said:

Dudes, we can't just hit someone and hope we get it right. We have to be sure dammit!

Most of us are sure. I will spell it out for you..

I login I see that fener is dead and is coming up with a nove family name.

Fener voted for our don he was not in our family.

the way the FM works is when he changes bodies, the old one dies, BUT(very important part) he comes up with a family CF from where he went.

Fener was not Nov, yet he voted for the don? He voted for the don because he was the FM, now he is in a Nov body.

now I assume you are nov Gam, you wouldn't vote for the don the same way I wouldn't.

Shadow just admited to being Nov he is a perfect target for the FM to go to.

[Gamelon]

It could just as easily be you being the fm then, Omtose.

[Kaschan]

cross-posts... Gamelon, nice to know you're still your old exploding self...

do you think Fener would have voted for your Don at L-5?
with a larger train on Mockra still having 2 votes more?
if not, then he wasn't a Nouv. if he wasn't a Nouv, but CF-ed as one, he was the FM who took over a Nouv.
THere are 3 Nouvs left
You (don't seem to have changed)
Omtose (doesn't seem to have changed)
Shadow (not much to tell either way)

process of elimination suggests Shadow.

[Omtose]

Gamelon, on Oct 13 2008, 04:48 PM, said:

It could just as easily be you being the fm then, Omtose.

or you.

[Tellan]

Gamelon, on Oct 13 2008, 10:42 PM, said:

Barghast, on Oct 13 2008, 09:41 PM, said:

Gamelon, on Oct 13 2008, 08:39 PM, said:

Hey, imbeciles, no need to rush anything, lets discuss some more.

Why? You have no chance of winning whatsoever.

Oh rly?

If the FM isnt a Nouv (unlikely) then you have two outed players. If you can win with that you deserve the most awesome mafia card ever, and none of us will ever play mafia again cos there will never be a game nearly as epic.

Edit - you would probably also warrant a shrine of some sort.

This post has been edited by Tellan: 13 October 2008 - 08:52 PM

[Gamelon]

It's not like Omtose is that hard to emulate. Actually, the fm could have planned this. With just some regular intelligence, he would have known that people would suppose Shadow being the fm - so fucking brilliantly he decides to pick Omtose! Woot!

[Gamelon]

Omtose, on Oct 13 2008, 08:49 PM, said:

Gamelon, on Oct 13 2008, 04:48 PM, said:

It could just as easily be you being the fm then, Omtose.

or you.

Haha, no.

[Kaschan]

Gamelon, on Oct 13 2008, 04:50 PM, said:

It's not like Omtose is that hard to emulate. Actually, the fm could have planned this. With just some regular intelligence, he would have known that people would suppose Shadow being the fm - so fucking brilliantly he decides to pick Omtose! Woot!

Could I get a "WI-FOM?"

[Emurlahn]

And then, when Shadow comes up as not FM, we lynch omtose. What a clever FM. Unless its you, and you're trying to make sure we hit omtose tommorow. Hopefully shadow will come up FM, but if not, then its between you two. Although I can see one of you getting vigged/poisoned, because 50/50 isnt great, and if FM gets time to shift, it will all begin again...