[Korvalain]

Am I alone again?

Hostilities aside, I would still like to discuss whether I'm wrong in thinking that no lynch is better than lynch on one who could be your own.

Come one people, this game is more than insult and votes

This post has been edited by Korvalain: 10 October 2008 - 07:13 AM

[Ruse]

Korvalain, on Oct 10 2008, 04:45 AM, said:

Confession: Barghast didn't do anything against my don. I think he's the FM and I want him lynched. I pulled a Khell

When I saw how he tried to get people to lynch Tennes out of meta, and saw the quick and vehement defenses Tennes was getting, and got the feeling he was the other team's don. I then tried to hint strongly at that and push the vote to "out" the rest of Tennes' team at the same time.

I pushed it too hard, although I thought for a while I hit a nerve, since if I got little support, I didn't get votes on myself, as if some players were seeing it too but afraid to act on it too obviously (even sounding annoyed that I was not subtle, but what did I care, I was "outing" someone else's don ).

Then it turns out I was wrong (I realized when Tennes himself voted for me), which means I alieneated all the teams against me, since Tennes is no one's don, and when I realized I resigned myself to get lynched for my mistake and my bad play. I mean, you can't survive when the three teams assume you're not with them.

I did get some support, though, my feeling is that those are Corleone players. Or they are players that thought that they would get "outed" if they didn't play along. It's hard to tell, which is the beauty of my plan in a way.

One thing I didn't lie about though: I know my ennemies based on who votes my don. Ironically, it happened, but since for the don and the voter did little else in this game, it's a little too obvious, so we can't do much until either of them wake up. And for those of my team, they might have realized I defended my don a little yesterday. Again, I won't say where of course, I'm just trying to repair the damage I have done yesterday by alienating my own team.

And before y'all get angry, I say "It's a game", people, the point it so have fun and try things. If Tennes had been a don, it would have been an awesome move

Proves I was right and you were bullshitting us yet again.
So, why I even go to the tedious task of examining and analyzing yet another post that is written by you and thus, probably full of lies, is beyond even my own comprehension.

Let's see... outing someone elses don.
Tennes was attacked for meta-reasons (by Barghast ironically, your own nemesis). Most of the defenses were of a meta-nature (sportsmanship) as well.
Tennes' replacement was already confirmed by PS to not be due to meta-reasons while you were still attacking Barghast. The FM argument is wearing thin and never got more than 2 votes in support, I think, yet you persisted. Why?
Come with evidence... CF could be it, I'll grant you that, but I have a feeling that if Barghast lives, you'll just say: "he didn't shift just to lift the suspicion of him, or to set me up!" Rather than admitting he's probably not the FM.

I haven't seen you change tack all day (maybe you're just too subtle for me, no? Just the same kind of subtle as you were when you pointed out that the resident clubwielding caveman attacked your don? = lying, of course...)

Also, nice to oblige and point out that you think Corleone people defended you, no? Especially when, before, you slipped on being a Corleone, then denied it, and somewhere else calling a lynch for someone you expected to not be Corleone, nor your own faction. And then, you expect them to follow you, for what reason? Because you are such a safe wall to hide behind? If they did, they deserve extermination.

To not appear a Corleone? With Laxon's and Noxchild's modkill (hope no rl stuff caused her removal) the Corleone are currently (at the least until daybreak) only 1 member down on the De Lauro and Nouveletta factions, if my maths is correct. That's discounting any triad influence, as well. Their position isn't so desperate that they'd need cover again, at the least, not until the morning message.

Yet you discount all that now, you even call it the beauty of the plan... players afraid to be outed, players who are Corleone... bah. I doubt that they themselves generally felt the need to hide their alignment more than the Nouvaleleletatata (couldn't you have taken a name that was easier to spell/remember, Morgy?) and the De Lauro players do. And if they didn't, well, that would throw your whole beauty into disarray... for it would be a couple of different factions and nothing solid would be gleaned from it, now would it?

Nice focusing of attention on you yet again, mate, allowing someone else to slip off the radar.
All i see here is more vagueness, some gloating and justification and another meaningless glimpse of a masterplan.

Listen to Ruse next time people, and don't follow your instincts... all that will get you is hangovers, STDs and unhappy gfs.

[Korvalain]

At least you guys don't have to worry about me being recruited or jumped into

[Korvalain]

All right, PS is there.

Time to split and chill.

[Shadow]

Geezzz! I missed a lot here. Have just caught up.
Right now besides being speechless, I think waiting for the day scene and discussing any NKs that occur should be where we focus our time today.
Also lynching just for the sake of lynching is to me a stupid tactic especially, in a game where numbers count. That being said, had I been in either Gamelon or Omtose's position I would have stoped to ask why...

[Path-Shaper]

Bells peal out from the church in the old center of town, announcing the day has begun. The sound echoes through bleary heads as the result of last nights anger and confusion. But they dont stop after their usual six notes, but go on and on until it becomes too much to bear. You step through the streets, following a steady stream of cursing italians in the night clothes as people head in droves to discover what the source of the commotion is, as you enter the square, the three families are facing each other across the span of a few feet. Anger and hate distorts the faces of those around.

Ruse steps away from the rest of the Corleones, pushing through the angry young sons of the Di lauro and Nouveletta families to bang on the door of the church. Three quick thumps followed by three more and the door creaked open from the inside, a weeping nun standing in floods of tears behind the door. You all barge in, filling the small hall with bodies as you press into the open space.

A body is laid out on the altar, the body covered by the colours of the Nouveletta familigia. Ruse pulls the voer back, revealling the once manic face of Korvalain, now peaceful in death. His throat has been sliced so deeply his spinal cord is showing.

"Peace at last," mutters someone in the back and it all kicks off, blows flying in every direction, pews being torn up. Ruse staggers back from the altar, his heart beating loudly as it seemed to explode in his chest. He cough once, shocked to see black blood foaming from his lips. He turned to face the growing melee, and lifted his hands as if in prayer. No one even noticed when his lung exited from his mouth in a foamy spray and splashed onto the aisle, a stray dog lifting it up and running off with it.

Ruse(Tapper) is dead, he was a Corleone.
Korvalain(Jump Around) is dead, he was a Nouveletta.

it is day 3, you have 36 hours remaining.

14 players remain, 8 votes to lynch, 7 to go to night.

No one has voted.

[Shadow]

ummm.... who were Korv and Ruse?

[Mockra]

Wow.

OK. That was...an unexpected turn around. The night-kill of Korvalain...not so unexpected.

All right. Who's ready to begin? I've only got an hour or so...

[Mockra]

He's normally very loud, and very weasally.

Tapper....hmm...sort of the norm. Bit more vocal, possibly.

[Path-Shaper]

Apologies did i say Jump around was Ruse, he was Korvalain...

[Mockra]

Ahhhhhhhhhhh

[Mockra]

Korvalain, on Oct 10 2008, 05:47 AM, said:

Actually, I see 4 votes on Mockra, all for bulshitty reasons, and Mockra also voted Barghast. I think I see the problem, people. Not only Barghast is in the other team, but he's the don.

D'riss, on Oct 10 2008, 08:03 AM, said:

Anyway, I'm still not convinced Mockra and Korv are on the same team. I think Korv was fake-symping Mockra to deflect attention off another of those that Barghast wanted to vote for. That way if he goes down, he takes Mockra with him, who he dosen't think is on his team.

Hence my staunch support of lynching Korvalain.

Putting these two quotes together makes it more apparent, yes? Korvalain WAS fake-symping me to get himself in the clear. He saw the link people drew between me and him when I voted straight after him, and decided to play on that. Thank the maker someone saw the truth.

Galain, on Oct 10 2008, 06:29 AM, said:

i agree
mockra Is lurkiing

Now really. Lurking? Not only did I say that I wouldn't be around, but don't I actually have to be reading the thread to lurk? Otherwise it's just not being there.

[Tennes]

So what are all the options for night kill? A don hitting another don. The FM moves into another alt and the original FM alt dies. Is that it? There is also the possibility that someone has changed from being in a family to triad.

So Ruse and Korv can't both have been dons but one of them was and the other was the FM. I'm more inclined to think Korv was the FM and Ruse the don. Korv seemed to jump around a lot (no pun intended). Right from day one he would want to vote for someone based on a couple of reasons and whenever people argued with one of those reasons he would fall back on the other. He was a very talkative and agressive player and I can't think why a don would behave as he did since a don has no need to signal his allegiances - his team all know who he is.

Ruse has been much more low profile but iirc he has been attacked somewhat so it's time to maybe look at who defended him and we might get to wipe out the Corleones after all

[Tennes]

About the discussion of whether to lynch for the sake of lynching: I was sure that Korv was not on my team. Now more than ever I think he was FM. I think if you read back, the majority of voters said they would have voted for Mockra or Korv. I don't think there were that many of them voting just for the sake of a lynch. Obviously when there's so little time left and people want someone dead - for valid reasons - they will get excited and say anything to get another vote on. I'm really gutted we didn't get him. I reckon we were one vote away from lynching the FM.

[Mockra]

@Tennes - they could also have been poisoned. I think an FM switch was very likely. A don kill? Not very likely. Think about it, they've only got two, and they HAVE to pick another don.

[Tennes]

I completely forgot about the poisoner. That changes things a little. I could understand why someone would poison Korv. If I were in that position I would have done it.