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I more or less agree with Galains summary there.
I stand by the Ruse lynch completely. Sorry you can't point our Roled innocents like that and not be lynched. Sure he might well have been innocent, but really Yellow should have known better. I'm still stunned it was Yellow.
Interesting we had a Vig and no NK. I don't see any reason for the killer holding back the kill at all, so I would guess it was either the Guard or Healer picked the right person.
Less likely but still possible is Tennes was starting to get a little scallywaggy so the Killer thought why risk the kill being blocked by the heal lets just kill Tennes so both Vig and Killer targeted the same person.
@Fener, did you read the rules at all? It states if there are paired Vigs they each get a Vig so they still have one left.
Looking back at the cases none of them really spring out at me as votable at this point, guess we'll have to see how the day progresses.
Mafia 27: The Escape of the Benses (Game Thread)
#522 Guest_Path-Shaper_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 04:52 AM
It is day 2, 23 hours and a half left in the day
13 players alive, 7 to lynch and to go to night
1 vote Liosan (Omtose)
12 have not voted (Barghast, D'riss, Fener, Galain, Gamelon, Hoods Path, Kaschan, Liosan, Mockra, Serc, Shadow, Telas)
13 players alive, 7 to lynch and to go to night
1 vote Liosan (Omtose)
12 have not voted (Barghast, D'riss, Fener, Galain, Gamelon, Hoods Path, Kaschan, Liosan, Mockra, Serc, Shadow, Telas)
#523 Guest_Mockra_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 07:39 AM
Kaschan;375149 said:
Glad I know what you are now. Vigs. Hmm, well thats a pity I suppose(not that we've got vigs, just that it reduces the chances of paired finders).
is it just me or is this statement....weird.
Why are you happy that you know what we are?
And its a pity we are not finders?....wah?
#524 Guest_Mockra_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 07:43 AM
Kaschan;375173 said:
I doubt tennes was hit by both.
Heal is entirely possible, though the odds are small.
Heal is entirely possible, though the odds are small.
I believe the odds are 50/50 ol bean.
The healer must have picked on of us lastnight.
Im sure he will do it again tonight, and we can only hope for him to pick right.
Kaschan;375173 said:
HOWEVER: I think deception to try get a guard reveal+inno lynch is very probable.
Killer holds off kill.
Guard reveals-I guarded x.
x is lynched, turns out inno.
Killer knows who guard is.
Innos possibly lynch guard for killer.
Guard(s), do NOT reveal, unless you are ABSOLUTELY certain you are right.
In fact, for that matter, no one reveal, unless you are.
Edit: Liosan. You suck. You forgot to throw a tomato.
Killer holds off kill.
Guard reveals-I guarded x.
x is lynched, turns out inno.
Killer knows who guard is.
Innos possibly lynch guard for killer.
Guard(s), do NOT reveal, unless you are ABSOLUTELY certain you are right.
In fact, for that matter, no one reveal, unless you are.
Edit: Liosan. You suck. You forgot to throw a tomato.
this i can believe happening aswell.
#525 Guest_D'riss_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 07:52 AM
Mockra;375272 said:
is it just me or is this statement....weird.
Why are you happy that you know what we are?
And its a pity we are not finders?....wah?
Why are you happy that you know what we are?
And its a pity we are not finders?....wah?
I think he means that it's regretable that the finders are possibly not a lover-pair, but maybe just a single finder instead. he may feel you being a vig-pair reduces the chance of having a lover-finder-pair as well...
In my mind it was quite clear from the way JA described the role that it was there'd be a lover-vig-pair rather than a healer- / guard-pair, due to the double-vig-kill-mechanic...
And that's all my speculation on roledistribution for today.
#526 Guest_Mockra_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 07:56 AM
Galain;375243 said:
The Dibs hit. This I have to bite my tongue over. As a player I have killed players for meta reasons(most of us have). Is this what just happened to Dibs? I WON"T post my feelings on this. But I will throw the possibility out there. What I don't understand is why you guys revealed your roles. I think doing that just put more heat on the rest of us. Why you ask? Because now BB can be some what sure your not the finders(His biggest threat). So thanks(sarcasm)
....we had no idea Tennes was dibs, we were not even trying to alt guess.
Dibs was killed because of some of his comment seemed scummy and we rolled with it. If you dont like it...well tough.
We want to use the vigs before the killer potentially choses one of us when he dies. Effectively giving the killer 2 night kills per night.
At least now we know 2 inno's are doing the deciding as to who gets vigged.
And if you dont like that...well....tough
As for the role reveal....well i was sleeping when it happened, but i fully support the Omtose revealing.
Allot of speculation and time wasting was being put into the NK.
Which would have gotten us no where since it was us who did it not the killers.
The guard now has maybe more info, i suggest you guard the same person for another night and see if it gets blocked again before even considering revealing. Maybe even wait a 3rd night if there is no night kill 2morro aswell.
#527 Guest_Mockra_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 07:57 AM
D said:
I think he means that it's regretable that the finders are possibly not a lover-pair, but maybe just a single finder instead. he may feel you being a vig-pair reduces the chance of having a lover-finder-pair as well...
In my mind it was quite clear from the way JA described the role that it was there'd be a lover-vig-pair rather than a healer- / guard-pair, due to the double-vig-kill-mechanic...
And that's all my speculation on roledistribution for today.
In my mind it was quite clear from the way JA described the role that it was there'd be a lover-vig-pair rather than a healer- / guard-pair, due to the double-vig-kill-mechanic...
And that's all my speculation on roledistribution for today.
So why was he then "happy"
#528 Guest_D'riss_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 08:03 AM
Might be a slip... Might also be that he's glad that you didn't reveal another role - cause let's face it, after using your second vig, you'll be normal roleless CI's, where other roles are (likely) limitless and taking them out could be worth more to the killer...
I don't know.... the above is guesswork already. I suggest he answers for himself...
I don't know.... the above is guesswork already. I suggest he answers for himself...
#529 Guest_Mockra_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 08:20 AM
Yea...i suppose.
Just found it a strange statement, not necessarily scummy...just strange.
Just found it a strange statement, not necessarily scummy...just strange.
#530 Guest_Galain_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 09:01 AM
Mockra;375272 said:
is it just me or is this statement....weird.
Why are you happy that you know what we are?
And its a pity we are not finders?....wah?
Why are you happy that you know what we are?
And its a pity we are not finders?....wah?
It makes some sense. One, to know that if you guys get bumped off by BB in the next few days we are not lossing our finder. Two, It's a pity that the paired role JA gave us was vigs not finders. That is if JA gave us only one paired role.
#531 Guest_Galain_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 09:08 AM
Mockra;375278 said:
....we had no idea Tennes was dibs, we were not even trying to alt guess.
Dibs was killed because of some of his comment seemed scummy and we rolled with it. If you dont like it...well tough.
We want to use the vigs before the killer potentially choses one of us when he dies. Effectively giving the killer 2 night kills per night.
At least now we know 2 inno's are doing the deciding as to who gets vigged.
And if you dont like that...well....tough
As for the role reveal....well i was sleeping when it happened, but i fully support the Omtose revealing.
Allot of speculation and time wasting was being put into the NK.
Which would have gotten us no where since it was us who did it not the killers.
The guard now has maybe more info, i suggest you guard the same person for another night and see if it gets blocked again before even considering revealing. Maybe even wait a 3rd night if there is no night kill 2morro aswell.
Dibs was killed because of some of his comment seemed scummy and we rolled with it. If you dont like it...well tough.
We want to use the vigs before the killer potentially choses one of us when he dies. Effectively giving the killer 2 night kills per night.
At least now we know 2 inno's are doing the deciding as to who gets vigged.
And if you dont like that...well....tough
As for the role reveal....well i was sleeping when it happened, but i fully support the Omtose revealing.
Allot of speculation and time wasting was being put into the NK.
Which would have gotten us no where since it was us who did it not the killers.
The guard now has maybe more info, i suggest you guard the same person for another night and see if it gets blocked again before even considering revealing. Maybe even wait a 3rd night if there is no night kill 2morro aswell.
I never said I didn't like it:p I will explain in spoilers why I'm not commenting on it though:D
#532 Guest_Telas_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 09:13 AM
D said:
Well, there goes a voice of reason, even if reason was spiced with cusswords.
#535 Guest_D'riss_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 09:19 AM
Galain;375290 said:
I never said I didn't like it:p I will explain in spoilers why I'm not commenting on it though:D
Gief spoilerboard access!
#536 Guest_Mockra_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 09:21 AM
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#537 Guest_D'riss_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 09:21 AM
Hmm, Telas?
Vigilantes are too fast with the finger of suspicion and need to calm down?
I don't know what tripods have to do with it, to be honest
Vigilantes are too fast with the finger of suspicion and need to calm down?
I don't know what tripods have to do with it, to be honest
#538 Guest_Telas_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 09:27 AM
Tennes;374908 said:
no, what i am calling for is patience. for the last few hours people have been himming and hamming over the decision and talking a serious load of bullshit about it. You come along and drop the vote, finally removing yours from mockra who was CI.
Plus i aint asking a fucking healer to reveal i was giving ruse the chance to reveal, so dont start twisting my words just because you hanged an inno player.
Plus i aint asking a fucking healer to reveal i was giving ruse the chance to reveal, so dont start twisting my words just because you hanged an inno player.
Serc;375003 said:
Oh come on now, A voice of reason? The only reasonable thing he said, was to give ruse a chance to defend himself, which we did.
He advocated for a healer to reveal, if Ruse was a healer. I still say that is bad.
As to Kaschan, I would like to think I would not be stupid enough to kill someone who was somewhat calling me out, but I don't have any kill powers to test that, so we will never know ;P
He advocated for a healer to reveal, if Ruse was a healer. I still say that is bad.
As to Kaschan, I would like to think I would not be stupid enough to kill someone who was somewhat calling me out, but I don't have any kill powers to test that, so we will never know ;P
#539 Guest_Telas_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 09:28 AM
d said:
hmm, telas?
Vigilantes are too fast with the finger of suspicion and need to calm down?
I don't know what tripods have to do with it, to be honest
Vigilantes are too fast with the finger of suspicion and need to calm down?
I don't know what tripods have to do with it, to be honest
#540 Guest_Hoods Path_*
Posted 27 August 2008 - 09:28 AM
Back, finally, after a long time.
Telas, are you saying you're a dead man? Why's that?
Gonna read up again, methinks my information is outdated...
Telas, are you saying you're a dead man? Why's that?
Gonna read up again, methinks my information is outdated...
