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Mafia 27: The Escape of the Benses (Game Thread)

#501 Guest_Liosan_*

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Posted 26 August 2008 - 09:42 PM

Omtose;375171 said:

I don't think that your conclusion on Telas was wrong, just that the way you presented it looks like someone who desperately wants to appear to be contributing.

In response to all you points 1 through 4. I didn't say there was anything wrong with going through someone's posts and finding nothing. I said that the way you quoted a pile of his posts, didn't comment on the content of any of them and ended of saying that you thought none of what you quoted was scummy is indicative of someone who wants very much to look like they're contributing more than they actually are.

That is not wifom.

It's not a secret that I want to contribute, since I desperately want to survive this game. I don't understand what you're getting at.

Edit: (throws tomato at Kaschan) Happy now?
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Posted 26 August 2008 - 09:54 PM

Liosan;375191 said:

It's not a secret that I want to contribute, since I desperately want to survive this game. I don't understand what you're getting at.

Edit: (throws tomato at Kaschan) Happy now?


Liosan, by contributing, Omtose(and I, I suppose) means that you need to find someone you think is guilty and then present a case using their posts to show why you think that they are scum. Instead you posted a seemingly random case on a seemingly random player, and found that they might not be scum. This isn't contributing, because by doing this you may clear a possibe evil.
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Posted 26 August 2008 - 10:05 PM

Shadow;375197 said:

Liosan, by contributing, Omtose(and I, I suppose) means that you need to find someone you think is guilty and then present a case using their posts to show why you think that they are scum. Instead you posted a seemingly random case on a seemingly random player, and found that they might not be scum. This isn't contributing, because by doing this you may clear a possibe evil.

Allright, but there's more people than me analyzing people and not finding much. Except they make it sound oh so suspicious. But apparently I didn't make myself clear, I never discarded the possibility that Telas is evil. For instance I mentioned in my post about him that he has played 'smoothly'. That could easily be seen as flying under the radar. I'm just not drawing any rash conclusions about it.
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Posted 26 August 2008 - 10:07 PM

Liosan;375191 said:

It's not a secret that I want to contribute, since I desperately want to survive this game. I don't understand what you're getting at.

Edit: (throws tomato at Kaschan) Happy now?


Wanting to contribute is good, but your post 462 was no more contribution than a line or two saying you looked through Telas's posts and found nothing you thought was scummy. You tried to make that look like much more than it is by quoting a pile of posts (that you then don't comment on) to make it look longer and more substantial. That is scummy.
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Posted 26 August 2008 - 10:13 PM

Omtose;375207 said:

Wanting to contribute is good, but your post 462 was no more contribution than a line or two saying you looked through Telas's posts and found nothing you thought was scummy. You tried to make that look like much more than it is by quoting a pile of posts (that you then don't comment on) to make it look longer and more substantial. That is scummy.

Allright, so I officially suck at contributing. But it was certainly not my intention to make the post seem more than it was.
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Posted 26 August 2008 - 10:58 PM

I'm going to bed. Good night.
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Posted 27 August 2008 - 12:33 AM

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Posted 27 August 2008 - 12:37 AM

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Posted 27 August 2008 - 12:40 AM

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Posted 27 August 2008 - 12:54 AM

HAHAHAHA

Lets see, you have a hot S&M chick, and want to know why shes sleeping? I love this game. See you all tomorrow!
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Posted 27 August 2008 - 01:56 AM

huh
Hey, all
back, as promised
first thing first

@ Shadow and his accusations of me--esp. that last part about me "editing my post due to boredom". READ THE WHOLE LINE, genius.
it was edited by PS. to fix the quote. because HE was bored.

Yes, I do apologize for only being available in the ungodly "dead hours", and falling asleep right before the rest of you get on, to catch some 5-6 hours of sleep before work the next day.

once again, I don't see how I can defend against Kaschan's accusation, except to say that maybe me and JA think alike. Since Kaschan says he was only fishing for a guilty consience, and mine's clean, I'm hoping we can settle that.

Now then: Ruse got lynched. Yellow was not playing smart, that code reveal was a dumb move, so I don't particularly regret it. The Tennes NK is a different story however. DiBs was drawing a lot of attention to himself. he was angry and confrontational. I'm not quite sure I understand why the vigs decided to off him.

I'm not sure what to make of the telas silencing.
hmm, must re-read, will try to think of good suspects and make some cases.
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Posted 27 August 2008 - 01:59 AM

oh, and another thing @ shadow for that "case"
for some reason you double-posted some of my quotes. not sure why you'd do that, but yes... strawmanning a bit when no-one's looking?
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Posted 27 August 2008 - 02:13 AM

Fener;375236 said:

oh, and another thing @ shadow for that "case"
for some reason you double-posted some of my quotes. not sure why you'd do that, but yes... strawmanning a bit when no-one's looking?


I'm still learning how to use the multi-quote button. Also, It wasn't a case, it was an observation, but I am glad to see it got a rise ot of ou, which is more than I have seen in the last 48 hours.
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Posted 27 August 2008 - 02:14 AM

By the way, I really love how the term straw manning has caught on. No matter how foolish it sounds.
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Posted 27 August 2008 - 02:27 AM

Shadow;375238 said:

I'm still learning how to use the multi-quote button. Also, It wasn't a case, it was an observation, but I am glad to see it got a rise ot of ou, which is more than I have seen in the last 48 hours.


wouldn't quite call it a rise, lol. I just happen to be less tired after work today than usual, and am somewhat lucid (possibly because I basically passed out in front of my computer last night, soon after writing that "Hey , you're here" post @ HP....)

and it just so happens that I heavily dislike being accused of lurking. I have RL issues (work with long hours nad no net access), but when I am around, I try to contribute. It's difficult, but I try, damnint!
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Posted 27 August 2008 - 02:39 AM

Well I am here and around now will do some reading up and see what I missed.
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Posted 27 August 2008 - 02:39 AM

oh, and another thing that just occured to me that I don't recall being mentioned before.
@ Omtose and Mockra, our two viggs: You claim to have spent one of your kills on Tennes. How many do you have left?
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Posted 27 August 2008 - 02:48 AM

well I just got home. It has been a very, very long day.My lack of content has to do with a large lack of time, nothing else. Being a heathen, I didn't have yesterday off, and being even more of a heathen, I didn't have today off ether. I have tried to keep up with the thread, but have just came back from a 7hr absence. My take on what has gone on with the game.

The Ruse lynch. First off before you even say it' "you voted for him" I voted for him at the beginning of the game as a joke. We used to do that ALL the time on the first day, we used to have fun playing. Anybody remember. I was just fucking with Omtose and his dead serous style of play.

Now onto the Massive fuck up by yellow. I know your still reading this thread so, What were you thinking? I know your a better player than that. Anyway on with the story, We all know about his code reveal no reason to go anywhere else with that. But the fall out is we now have an inno pair exposed. Not good. A bad call on Yellows part, but I didn't think it was lynch worthy. But we did need a lynch. IMHO. I was in and out of my office all day, so I didn't feel comfortable with putting a vote on him, not knowing if I was going to be around to take it off if he showed up and gave a good defense. It seamed like the right call at the time, still does. So as far a the lynch goes "a swing and a miss" Thats Mafia.

The Dibs hit. This I have to bite my tongue over. As a player I have killed players for meta reasons(most of us have). Is this what just happened to Dibs? I WON"T post my feelings on this. But I will throw the possibility out there. What I don't understand is why you guys revealed your roles. I think doing that just put more heat on the rest of us. Why you ask? Because now BB can be some what sure your not the finders(His biggest threat). So thanks(sarcasm)

The pissing contests. I feel the same way Gam feels. Why get involved in it. I don't see anything good coming from anything I would have to add. There would just be more piss.

And UB is still with us. "maybe" One thing I would have done if I was BB and my symp just committed suicide would be to fake that he was still there(hence pretend to be silenced). Is telas BB? I don't know. I just thought of that ploy and posted it to give us more things to think about.

I'm whipped out and am going to bed. I will be on for a bit in the morning before work.

cya
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Posted 27 August 2008 - 02:57 AM

oh, just to make things slightly more convoluted, I just remebred something
If UB is NKed,. his action still goes through.
Now I don't know why the hell DiBs was being so overdramatic yesterday, painting a target onto him. but I will consider the "Tennes= UB" as a possibilty
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Posted 27 August 2008 - 03:47 AM

Shit
I find that I have dosed off close to my computer AGAIN
sigh
I'm really sorry guys, but I feel like I'll die if I don't sleep soon
good night
I'll be back for a bit in 6 or so hours. will post my findings/thoughtd then.
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