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Mafia 27: The Escape of the Benses (Game Thread)

#381 Guest_Path-Shaper_*

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Posted 26 August 2008 - 02:49 PM

Round of applause for Kaschan, who is now allowed to post normally
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#382 Guest_Gamelon_*

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Posted 26 August 2008 - 02:50 PM

Path-Shaper;374893 said:

Ruse (Yellow) has been lynched. He was INNOCENT



I would just like to say :banana: Yellows dead day one.

Later on in the spoilers it might turn out to have been a horrible lynch but till that day :banana::banana::admin::Rodeo:
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#383 Guest_Telas_*

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Posted 26 August 2008 - 02:50 PM

Surprise. Yes, I know, he could be UB, but I for one am gonna assume UB is still around. I'll have a look at a couple of people now.
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Posted 26 August 2008 - 02:50 PM

Tennes;374896 said:

That is just such horse shit as to not even warrant a response but seeing as people love fucking spouting such crap on this board i feel it does deserve at least my FUCKING scorn.

We have two exposed Roled Innocents at the moment.

ruse reveals as healer and survives lynch, becomes target for nk.

tomorrow we have two exposed roled innos and ruse is still dead.

is that better or worse than what just happened?


but the killers then have no compunctions about NK'oing the rest of us.

If the healer doesnt reveal then the killer will think twice about NK'ing the second lover as we will be protected by the healer (at least thats what he will think)

So get off your high horse,
healer not revealing is a standard mafia tactic.
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#385 Guest_Liosan_*

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Posted 26 August 2008 - 02:54 PM

Gah, the only thing we can do now is hope for the best.
Btw I don't think the healer(s) should reveal yet.
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#386 Guest_Tennes_*

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Posted 26 August 2008 - 02:54 PM

Serc;374900 said:

You are idiotic.

The Roled Inno's arent as exposed as they could be, because the killer dosent know if there is a healer out there or not. The Healer NEVER reveals, and the killer always has to watch who they hit, because they need each NK to work.

You are really calling for a healer to reveal?


no, what i am calling for is patience. for the last few hours people have been himming and hamming over the decision and talking a serious load of bullshit about it. You come along and drop the vote, finally removing yours from mockra who was CI.

Plus i aint asking a fucking healer to reveal i was giving ruse the chance to reveal, so dont start twisting my words just because you hanged an inno player.
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Posted 26 August 2008 - 02:54 PM

Mockra;374895 said:

Hmmm...i dont know about you but yellow doesnt strike me as the sort of player to be make an error and revealing lovers.

well lets cross our fingers that he was in fact UB


Yeah thats what I'm thinking. Yellow plays a good game. No way he'd make a mistake like that without a reason.
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#388 Guest_Serc_*

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Posted 26 August 2008 - 02:56 PM

Putting a joke vote on Mockra and then removing it in the same post is a defo killer tactic!

I took your post as asking for a Healer to reveal, as did Mockra. Perhaps you should be more clear in what you post, since everyone else seems to think you are saying something you claim not to be saying.

Why are you so angry?

edit: At Tennes post 386.
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#389 Guest_Mockra_*

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Posted 26 August 2008 - 02:58 PM

Tennes;374908 said:

no, what i am calling for is patience. for the last few hours people have been himming and hamming over the decision and talking a serious load of bullshit about it. You come along and drop the vote, finally removing yours from mockra who was CI.

Plus i aint asking a fucking healer to reveal i was giving ruse the chance to reveal, so dont start twisting my words just because you hanged an inno player.


All we are trying to say is that if he was the healer he shouldnt reveal, all the rest can go to the dogs, you say its a rubbish idea and if he IS a healer he STILL must reveal.

I disagree on that and ONLY that.

Its moot now because the day has ended, but you say we are "spouting crap" when you have some points about the game you clearly still need to learn.
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Posted 26 August 2008 - 02:59 PM

Mockra;374904 said:

but the killers then have no compunctions about NK'oing the rest of us.

If the healer doesnt reveal then the killer will think twice about NK'ing the second lover as we will be protected by the healer (at least thats what he will think)

So get off your high horse,
healer not revealing is a standard mafia tactic.


i aint on a high horse, i am in a fucking chair. Ruse was fucking dead either way, the only threat a healer will negate is the second lover as said. BB will still fucking toss a coin on one of you two ass hats anyway.

What if ruse had a partner? His reveal would have saved you lot from a night kill for one night while protecting his role, which is worth revealling and that he has a partner but didnt post such an obvious fuckign code that an inno died revealing it.

The fact that everyone on this board is so fuckign set in their ways is bloody fucking annoying, try a bit of variety guys, you never know you may grow to enjoy it.
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Posted 26 August 2008 - 03:00 PM

Barghast;374909 said:

Yeah thats what I'm thinking. Yellow plays a good game. No way he'd make a mistake like that without a reason.


lets hope we can talk for the rest of the game:rolleyes:
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Posted 26 August 2008 - 03:02 PM

Tennes;374913 said:

try a bit of variety guys, you never know you may grow to enjoy it.


I tried variety once and it is seriously overrated. Didn't do anything for me. No kick at the end. Thank you but no. I think that I will stick with nice and safe PBJ.
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Posted 26 August 2008 - 03:03 PM

Tennes;374913 said:

i aint on a high horse, i am in a fucking chair. Ruse was fucking dead either way, the only threat a healer will negate is the second lover as said. BB will still fucking toss a coin on one of you two ass hats anyway.

What if ruse had a partner? His reveal would have saved you lot from a night kill for one night while protecting his role, which is worth revealling and that he has a partner but didnt post such an obvious fuckign code that an inno died revealing it.

The fact that everyone on this board is so fuckign set in their ways is bloody fucking annoying, try a bit of variety guys, you never know you may grow to enjoy it.


Again, why are you so angry?
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Posted 26 August 2008 - 03:06 PM

Tennes;374913 said:

i aint on a high horse, i am in a fucking chair. Ruse was fucking dead either way, the only threat a healer will negate is the second lover as said. BB will still fucking toss a coin on one of you two ass hats anyway.

What if ruse had a partner? His reveal would have saved you lot from a night kill for one night while protecting his role, which is worth revealling and that he has a partner but didnt post such an obvious fuckign code that an inno died revealing it.

The fact that everyone on this board is so fuckign set in their ways is bloody fucking annoying, try a bit of variety guys, you never know you may grow to enjoy it.



There are many reasons why he should not reveal, but the most important is the "illusion" of the healer being around, The second lover could live for many nights purely because the killer might think that the healer is still around.
If he came and revealed healer then the killer would kill us all three without even a single moment worry.

And as far as ruse being a healer AND a lover is highly unlikely.
and in the end surmounts to the same situation as we have now except the second lover would REALLY have protection instead of ...maybe.

Sorry but healer reveals are a no no...get over it.
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#395 Guest_Telas_*

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Posted 26 August 2008 - 03:07 PM

Settle down kids and chew on this one instead. My case (read: gut feeling) on Galain:

Galain;373999 said:

It's on!!!!

now to ask kaschan some questions that are hard to explain in pictures,. DOH!

Kas, what does your avatar mean?

Kas, what is the relationship between normal tides and astronomical tides?

Kas, where do babies come from?....WAIT!!!! don't answer that!!!!.....lol


Galain;374001 said:

I think he means silenced him.:admin:


Galain;374004 said:

I think he is trying to say he has a cold sore.......yes?


Galain;374008 said:

I think he is into some sort of bondage.........electrical tape fetish?


Galain;374011 said:

ok in that last picture, you are pointing both your thumbs at the "prick" right above you? Gamelon silenced you?


Galain;374014 said:

your failure to answer all the questions Kas has me wondering if your stalling. I mean no defence on the tide question has me wonderingif you silenced yourself.




just kidding. come on where are the rest of the people!!!!! the game is ON! lets get with it!



In the above posts he is teasing Kaschan for being silenced. This is what first drew my attention to Galain. A UB not able to help himself and gloating over the person he silenced? Makes sure to say that he was 'just kidding.'


Galain;374141 said:

well then, to quote the movie "The Jerk"

"DIE YOU RANDOM FUCK"

vote Ruse






I'm not a heathen


Galain;374150 said:

You sir are a n00b if you think this train is going anywhere but the derailment yard. It's not even day one yet! More like Day (.5) LoL


Galain;374259 said:

Well I'm glad I got up early to check the thread.:Rodeo:


Well omtose that huge train you started sure went somewhere:p
my joke vote allmost cost ruse his life.

remove vote

I will be on from time to time today.


In these subsequent posts above, he votes and then unvotes from Ruse. Pretty much a hop on and off a potential train started by Omtose. But again, makes sure to tell everyone it was a joke, and he wasn't serious about it.


Galain;374341 said:

Oh blessed be!!!! Content! actual content posted!!!!

I like where you are going with this Shadow. When I removed my vote for Ruse, I was tempted to through it right over to Omtose just for the arrogant style of his play. I will for the next say 8 hrs be holding my vote because I am at work and can't watch the thread as often as needed when I have a vote out. Glad to see some more people starting to show up and post.


A bit ironic this. Someone please point out to me where Galain's posts full of content are, because I seem to have missed them.

Galain;374615 said:

Omtose your clinical approach to this game is setting off alarm bells in my head.

no case just a gut feeling. I think your BB.

vote omtose


100% straw free


Galain;374709 said:

remove voteif that code was scum, it is well played. I don't buy it as scum though.



And this is Galain's quick hop on and off voting for Omtose. With Shadow and Ruse's renewed attack on Omtose, perhaps he smelled an easy target and wanted to get in there early, but, of course, hops straight off as soon as something doesn't go quite according to plan.


Galain strikes me more as a UB than a BB, but could be either. He has posted an average amount but with almost no real content, typical evil-style, as is the making sure everyone knew he supposedly wasn't serious. His voting strikes me as opportunistic as well.



As I said, he strikes me more as a UB, so later I'll have a look and see if I can find a potential BB.
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Posted 26 August 2008 - 03:09 PM

HAHAHA

Why is everyone strawmanning Tennes? They never said for a healer to reveal, they just said that its not always a bad idea for the healer to reveal, damn you all straw manners!!!!! :Rodeo:
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Posted 26 August 2008 - 03:13 PM

Serc;374911 said:

Putting a joke vote on Mockra and then removing it in the same post is a defo killer tactic!

I took your post as asking for a Healer to reveal, as did Mockra. Perhaps you should be more clear in what you post, since everyone else seems to think you are saying something you claim not to be saying.

Why are you so angry?

edit: At Tennes post 386.


The last BB/UB game we had three pairs of players. It aint too much to assume if someone has a role they also have a partner, until we find BB those partnerships are our best fucking bet. Now soemnone cant come forward and go ruse isnt evil he was partnered to me as that exposes both sides, but not letting someone have a chance to reveal or do something is annoying to me, that people treat every fucking game the same when they are totally different is really frustrating.

the mechanics of this game especially are very different so why should standard mafia protocol apply?

If ruse was roled, chances are he had a partner, i find it hard to believe someone would reveal another code like that without some basis for doubt. If he had been partnered he would know the chances of omtose and mockra being partnered were diminished and with the code one way assume it was either a vague signal or a threat.

also the maths is very fucking simple, if ruse was a healer and partnered his partner is still fucking safe, while he would have saved either one of the two revealed players he forced out by his actions.

The fact is we dont know and wont until we die what if any role he had. but i am angry that people vote so heavily with the little or no reasons or debate about reasons for ruse exposing players like that, they just jumped on it and didnt seem to want to offer him the chances to explain.

Not meaning to take it outon you serc, just angry.
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Posted 26 August 2008 - 03:13 PM

At Tetass. There is nothing in there! My quick on and off Omtose? How many hours? And the only reason I pulled it is because he's CI. DUH! wasn't working out my ass. your is a SMA!! Ha got to use it. Working right now so I can't write long post right now
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Posted 26 August 2008 - 03:14 PM

Straw manners?

Shadow...tennes said for Ruse to reveal even if he is the healer, i said its not a good idea for him to reveal if he is the healer.

That is all.
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Posted 26 August 2008 - 03:17 PM

Tennes;374922 said:

The last BB/UB game we had three pairs of players. It aint too much to assume if someone has a role they also have a partner, until we find BB those partnerships are our best fucking bet. Now soemnone cant come forward and go ruse isnt evil he was partnered to me as that exposes both sides, but not letting someone have a chance to reveal or do something is annoying to me, that people treat every fucking game the same when they are totally different is really frustrating.



last game EVERY role was paired

BUT...this is not the last game

JA specifically stated in the rules for this game that this will not be the case.
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