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there is ONE killer and ONE symp, which means we have thirteen innos running around here many of whom are roled. A day 1 lynch aint always the best idea, and if i didnt think ruse would be scapegoated later by an evil fuck i wouldnt vote him off.
So lets give him thirty minutes to get on, he signed upt o play the fucking game and made a load of posts yesterday, now he gets a swifty in the back without even a moments hesitition?
Mafia 27: The Escape of the Benses (Game Thread)
#362 Guest_Mockra_*
Posted 26 August 2008 - 02:28 PM
Shadow...for me it seemed you were purposefully misinterpreting what Omtose was saying in order to make him look bad.
Now you do say "I assumed at the time that you meant..." which means you have now realized what he was really trying to say?
I say this because i understood what he was saying quite easily, yet you looked at it saw something that wasn't intended. Which is scummy tactics 101.
Now you do say "I assumed at the time that you meant..." which means you have now realized what he was really trying to say?
I say this because i understood what he was saying quite easily, yet you looked at it saw something that wasn't intended. Which is scummy tactics 101.
#363 Guest_Mockra_*
Posted 26 August 2008 - 02:30 PM
Tennes;374873 said:
so if i vote him off now and i see in the spoilers that he showed up five minutes later and was our only healer you will think, ahh well we got that oh so important day 1 lynch?
what would the point be of a healer reveal, he'd be dead by morning anyway.
At least if he is our healer then the killers will think he is still around.
#364 Guest_Tennes_*
Posted 26 August 2008 - 02:31 PM
Gamelon;374875 said:
I can see almost as many reasons for keeping Ruse alive as I can for killing him.
But what is comes down to for me is why did ruse reveal the code. I have found codes before but never revealed them cause I figured the risk v reward ratio wasn't in my favor enough to for a reveal. I don't understand why he choose to reveal the code on day one and I would really like to hear his reasoning before I am forced to vote for him.
But what is comes down to for me is why did ruse reveal the code. I have found codes before but never revealed them cause I figured the risk v reward ratio wasn't in my favor enough to for a reveal. I don't understand why he choose to reveal the code on day one and I would really like to hear his reasoning before I am forced to vote for him.
thats the thing people are ignoring, he didnt find both sides of the code, because only mockra coded. its different if you find both sides, it proves off thread comms.
One sided coding indicates two things in my mind, target for night action, or setting up for reveal later. The only reason you code a name if your evil is to fake reveal on one of your victims. He should have waited to day 2, as if he was right omtose was the night 1 target. Isntead he went early as he was getting pressure.
I dont like it, but i dont think we can risk having him there the whole time, chances are a guard or finder will waste the night on him, worse yet both might.
Unless he comes back roled, with some proof, i will vote him, reluctantly but with finality it seems.
#365 Guest_Tennes_*
Posted 26 August 2008 - 02:31 PM
Mockra;374879 said:
what would the point be of a healer reveal, he'd be dead by morning anyway.
At least if he is our healer then the killers will think he is still around.
At least if he is our healer then the killers will think he is still around.
:confused: but so might you then.
#366 Guest_Shadow_*
Posted 26 August 2008 - 02:32 PM
Mockra;374877 said:
Shadow...for me it seemed you were purposefully misinterpreting what Omtose was saying in order to make him look bad.
Now you do say "I assumed at the time that you meant..." which means you have now realized what he was really trying to say?
I say this because i understood what he was saying quite easily, yet you looked at it saw something that wasn't intended. Which is scummy tactics 101.
Now you do say "I assumed at the time that you meant..." which means you have now realized what he was really trying to say?
I say this because i understood what he was saying quite easily, yet you looked at it saw something that wasn't intended. Which is scummy tactics 101.
Of course, it would, you are partners and know he isn't scummy, and I say I assumed at the time, because you have proven you are partners. Meaning, I am no longer looking at Omtose as scum. Tell you what, pretend Omtose isn't your partner, and read those posts, they look very scummy.
#367 Guest_Liosan_*
Posted 26 August 2008 - 02:33 PM
I said I'd vote with 30 mins left, but now that means I'll hammer the poor guy, and I still want to hear what he has to say. 
Maybe he's roled, so I want to give him a chance to reveal. Choices, choices. I think I'll hold off a couple of more minutes.
Maybe he's roled, so I want to give him a chance to reveal. Choices, choices. I think I'll hold off a couple of more minutes.
#368 Guest_D'riss_*
Posted 26 August 2008 - 02:34 PM
Mockra;374879 said:
what would the point be of a healer reveal, he'd be dead by morning anyway.
At least if he is our healer then the killers will think he is still around.
At least if he is our healer then the killers will think he is still around.
You miss the if that Tennes implicitly put in here, and missing it makes you look ruthless.
If he is a healer and he logs on now, he can just lurk till kill. If he is a reveal-worthy-role, then he can do so while there is still time.
Tennes is allowing HIM the decision, rather than taking it for him. Insofar as Tennes can do this for him with the clock ticking.
#369 Guest_Mockra_*
Posted 26 August 2008 - 02:34 PM
Tennes;374881 said:
:confused: but so might you then.
who knows what might happen to me...but if a healer reveals...he will die no matter what.
#370 Guest_Serc_*
Posted 26 August 2008 - 02:35 PM
Mockra;374885 said:
who knows what might happen to me...but if a healer reveals...he will die no matter what.
This is true. No healer should ever reveal, unless there are like 3 people left and you need to to win the game. At this stage, there is NO point in any kind of healer reveal, even if you are going to die.
#372 Guest_Serc_*
Posted 26 August 2008 - 02:40 PM
20 minutes left. I guess I will drop the hammer since everyone else is too chicken shit.
Mockra
Wait... what?
remove vote
Vote Ruse
He needs to die today since he isn't around to reveal, or this is going to haunt us tomorrow.
Mockra
Wait... what?
remove vote
Vote Ruse
He needs to die today since he isn't around to reveal, or this is going to haunt us tomorrow.
#373 Guest_Gamelon_*
Posted 26 August 2008 - 02:42 PM
and hammer time. oh beat me to it.
#374 Guest_Mockra_*
Posted 26 August 2008 - 02:43 PM
Gamelon;374890 said:
and hammer time. oh beat me to it.
check at this bloody lurker
#375 Guest_Path-Shaper_*
Posted 26 August 2008 - 02:44 PM
After a slow start, the day picks up.
The one named Kaschan starts to gesticulate widly. Try as he might, no sound comes out of his throat. So it seems the stories told by the devastated souls who preceded these mages in Hood's realm are true.
Suddenly, Ruse notices a wink and a kiss blown towards Omtose by Mockra.
A-HA! he yells, pointing at the two.
In the awkward silence that follows, the rest quickly turn on Ruse and dismember him.
***
15 players alive, 8 to lynch and to go to night
Final day 1 vote count:
1 vote Shadow (Tennes)
1 vote Omtose (Ruse)
2 votes Fener (Gamelon, Kaschan)
8 votes Ruse (Mockra, Barghast, D'riss, Hoods Path, Fener, Shadow, Omtose, Serc)
3 have not voted (Galain, Liosan, Telas)
Ruse (Yellow) has been lynched. He was INNOCENT
***
It is now night, please send your night actions or confirm your provisionals, those concerned
The one named Kaschan starts to gesticulate widly. Try as he might, no sound comes out of his throat. So it seems the stories told by the devastated souls who preceded these mages in Hood's realm are true.
Suddenly, Ruse notices a wink and a kiss blown towards Omtose by Mockra.
A-HA! he yells, pointing at the two.
In the awkward silence that follows, the rest quickly turn on Ruse and dismember him.
***
15 players alive, 8 to lynch and to go to night
Final day 1 vote count:
1 vote Shadow (Tennes)
1 vote Omtose (Ruse)
2 votes Fener (Gamelon, Kaschan)
8 votes Ruse (Mockra, Barghast, D'riss, Hoods Path, Fener, Shadow, Omtose, Serc)
3 have not voted (Galain, Liosan, Telas)
Ruse (Yellow) has been lynched. He was INNOCENT
***
It is now night, please send your night actions or confirm your provisionals, those concerned
#376 Guest_Mockra_*
Posted 26 August 2008 - 02:46 PM
Hmmm...i dont know about you but yellow doesnt strike me as the sort of player to be make an error and revealing lovers.
well lets cross our fingers that he was in fact UB
well lets cross our fingers that he was in fact UB
#377 Guest_Tennes_*
Posted 26 August 2008 - 02:46 PM
Serc;374886 said:
This is true. No healer should ever reveal, unless there are like 3 people left and you need to to win the game. At this stage, there is NO point in any kind of healer reveal, even if you are going to die.
That is just such horse shit as to not even warrant a response but seeing as people love fucking spouting such crap on this board i feel it does deserve at least my FUCKING scorn.
We have two exposed Roled Innocents at the moment.
ruse reveals as healer and survives lynch, becomes target for nk.
tomorrow we have two exposed roled innos and ruse is still dead.
is that better or worse than what just happened?
#378 Guest_Serc_*
Posted 26 August 2008 - 02:47 PM
I see that Mockra. Yellow is def an experienced player...
#379 Guest_Gamelon_*
Posted 26 August 2008 - 02:47 PM
Gamelon;374875 said:
I can see almost as many reasons for keeping Ruse alive as I can for killing him.
But what is comes down to for me is why did ruse reveal the code. I have found codes before but never revealed them cause I figured the risk v reward ratio wasn't in my favor enough to for a reveal. I don't understand why he choose to reveal the code on day one and I would really like to hear his reasoning before I am forced to vote for him.
But what is comes down to for me is why did ruse reveal the code. I have found codes before but never revealed them cause I figured the risk v reward ratio wasn't in my favor enough to for a reveal. I don't understand why he choose to reveal the code on day one and I would really like to hear his reasoning before I am forced to vote for him.
Mockra;374891 said:
check at this bloody lurker
Did you miss the part that said that I would vote for him right before the end of the day. :confused:
#380 Guest_Serc_*
Posted 26 August 2008 - 02:48 PM
Tennes;374896 said:
That is just such horse shit as to not even warrant a response but seeing as people love fucking spouting such crap on this board i feel it does deserve at least my FUCKING scorn.
We have two exposed Roled Innocents at the moment.
ruse reveals as healer and survives lynch, becomes target for nk.
tomorrow we have two exposed roled innos and ruse is still dead.
is that better or worse than what just happened?
We have two exposed Roled Innocents at the moment.
ruse reveals as healer and survives lynch, becomes target for nk.
tomorrow we have two exposed roled innos and ruse is still dead.
is that better or worse than what just happened?
You are idiotic.
The Roled Inno's arent as exposed as they could be, because the killer dosent know if there is a healer out there or not. The Healer NEVER reveals, and the killer always has to watch who they hit, because they need each NK to work.
You are really calling for a healer to reveal?
