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It is day 1, 29 hours left
15 players alive, 8 to lynch and to go to night
1 votes Ruse (Omtose)
14 have not voted (Barghast, D'riss, Fener, Galain, Gamelon, Hoods Path, Kaschan, Liosan, Mockra, Ruse, Serc, Shadow, Telas, Tennes)
Mafia 27: The Escape of the Benses (Game Thread)
#102 Guest_Fener_*
Posted 25 August 2008 - 10:53 AM
wow, we're sure being active today...
gotta go to work
Will be back in 14 hours or so (not all of us get this "bank holiday" you speak of)
gotta go to work
Will be back in 14 hours or so (not all of us get this "bank holiday" you speak of)
#103 Guest_Mockra_*
Posted 25 August 2008 - 10:59 AM
Oh..? My my.
This started yesterday already? One would think a Sunday start would be slow.
Seems that is not the case.
Everyone shown up yet?
Or am i just one of many still to come?
dang now i got to catch up on all the nonsense that has been posted in my absence...bah
This started yesterday already? One would think a Sunday start would be slow.
Seems that is not the case.
Everyone shown up yet?
Or am i just one of many still to come?
dang now i got to catch up on all the nonsense that has been posted in my absence...bah
#104 Guest_Mockra_*
Posted 25 August 2008 - 11:08 AM
Omtose;374133 said:
This kind of speculation leads nowhere but wifom as quite clearly indicated from HP's subsequent post.
The only way that we can get anything going and start getting reactions out of people is to vote.
VOTE RUSE
For above mentioned wifom... until something more solid comes along to vote on.
The only way that we can get anything going and start getting reactions out of people is to vote.
VOTE RUSE
For above mentioned wifom... until something more solid comes along to vote on.
Hmmm
yea i tend to agree with this.
Ruse seem to be just trying to fish for an easy target to lynch.
#105 Guest_Mockra_*
Posted 25 August 2008 - 11:14 AM
Not as busy as i initially thought 
where is everyone? This supposed to be a "bank holiday"?
where is everyone? This supposed to be a "bank holiday"?
#106 Guest_Ruse_*
Posted 25 August 2008 - 11:16 AM
I'm around for a little while.
ETA: scratch that! I'm being dragged to ASDA in ten minutes. Gaaaarrarrarrghghghghghgaaaaa!
ETA: scratch that! I'm being dragged to ASDA in ten minutes. Gaaaarrarrarrghghghghghgaaaaa!
#107 Guest_Shadow_*
Posted 25 August 2008 - 11:30 AM
Alright, I see we started a little earlier than I thought. I caught up and have a few speculations. Omtose is murder death kill happy. He knows that the first train usually gets the lynch and admits as much, even though his Ruse "case is only based on 1 post. Galain may be symping although it seems a bit too obvious day 1. Fener posts drunk whilst being stone cold sober, just tired, HP thinks Omtose is silenced, maybe planned on silencing him tomorrow, Tapper likes posting nekkid, Tennes posts once to say that he/she will be no help until tomorrow, Fener doesn't get a bank holiday and now I pop in to post rubbish!
Vote Omtose
For being a bully!
Vote Omtose
For being a bully!
#109 Guest_Omtose_*
Posted 25 August 2008 - 12:42 PM
Galain;374259 said:
Well I'm glad I got up early to check the thread.
Well omtose that huge train you started sure went somewhere:p
my joke vote allmost cost ruse his life.
remove vote
I will be on from time to time today.
Well omtose that huge train you started sure went somewhere:p
my joke vote allmost cost ruse his life.
remove vote
I will be on from time to time today.
So it was a little hopeful to think it would get out of hand. I like bandwagons that get out of hand, they're the ones you get the most information out of.
#110 Guest_Omtose_*
Posted 25 August 2008 - 12:44 PM
Shadow;374283 said:
Alright, I see we started a little earlier than I thought. I caught up and have a few speculations. Omtose is murder death kill happy. He knows that the first train usually gets the lynch and admits as much, even though his Ruse "case is only based on 1 post. Galain may be symping although it seems a bit too obvious day 1. Fener posts drunk whilst being stone cold sober, just tired, HP thinks Omtose is silenced, maybe planned on silencing him tomorrow, Tapper likes posting nekkid, Tennes posts once to say that he/she will be no help until tomorrow, Fener doesn't get a bank holiday and now I pop in to post rubbish!
Vote Omtose
For being a bully!
Vote Omtose
For being a bully!
Posts like this are, as you correctly surmised, rubbish. Until your vote you managed to, very succinctly, tell everyone nothing we didn't already know.
... Now give me your lunch money. :folken:
#111 Guest_Barghast_*
Posted 25 August 2008 - 12:45 PM
Well back on now. Seems strangely quiet so far. Where's Kaschan to amuse us with pictures?
#112 Guest_Ruse_*
Posted 25 August 2008 - 12:47 PM
Back from ASDA. 'twas pain.
Shadow, please could you explain why you chose Omtose to slap your vote on? "Bullying" is a pretty weak reason.
Shadow, please could you explain why you chose Omtose to slap your vote on? "Bullying" is a pretty weak reason.
#113 Guest_Shadow_*
Posted 25 August 2008 - 12:55 PM
Omtose;374301 said:
Posts like this are, as you correctly surmised, rubbish. Until your vote you managed to, very succinctly, tell everyone nothing we didn't already know.
... Now give me your lunch money. :folken:
... Now give me your lunch money. :folken:
* Hands Omtose 15 yen
Ruse;374304 said:
Back from ASDA. 'twas pain.
Shadow, please could you explain why you chose Omtose to slap your vote on? "Bullying" is a pretty weak reason.
Shadow, please could you explain why you chose Omtose to slap your vote on? "Bullying" is a pretty weak reason.
So bullying is a weak reason, but speculating on whether or not Kashcan silenced himself is not, interesting. Also, its day 1, and Omtose said he is well aware that trains on day 1 usually stick no matter what, and he was hoping that his would stick, just because? To me this is a scummy way to play the game. Of course Big Ben will want any lynch, no matter how weak, so I am accusing Omtose of being crass, pushing weak lynches just for the sake of lynching. Not based on any slip, or scummy play.
#114 Guest_D'riss_*
Posted 25 August 2008 - 01:13 PM
Shadow;374306 said:
So bullying is a weak reason, but speculating on whether or not Kashcan silenced himself is not, interesting.
Did you just subtly suggest that it makes all the difference that Omtose was the one getting voted on for bullying?
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Also, its day 1, and Omtose said he is well aware that trains on day 1 usually stick no matter what, and he was hoping that his would stick, just because? To me this is a scummy way to play the game.
Voting for a rather weak lynch or hoping for a train in itself is no crime. It's unlikely we'll get anything better, for it's day 1. This is a rather slow day 1, at that. Mean and uncaring? Yes. But it's more realistic than hoping for the perfect lynch... on day 1.
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Of course Big Ben will want any lynch, no matter how weak, so I am accusing Omtose of being crass, pushing weak lynches just for the sake of lynching. Not based on any slip, or scummy play.
And what does that mean? You are accusing him of being Big Ben, or just of being reckless/ruthless? And then you do not draw on Omtose playing scummy, either, when you make such a fuss about it in paragraph 1... you undermine your own "case" straightaway...
#115 Guest_Omtose_*
Posted 25 August 2008 - 01:21 PM
Shadow;374306 said:
* Hands Omtose 15 yen
Woot! Yen
Shadow;374306 said:
So bullying is a weak reason, but speculating on whether or not Kashcan silenced himself is not, interesting. Also, its day 1, and Omtose said he is well aware that trains on day 1 usually stick no matter what, and he was hoping that his would stick, just because? To me this is a scummy way to play the game. Of course Big Ben will want any lynch, no matter how weak, so I am accusing Omtose of being crass, pushing weak lynches just for the sake of lynching. Not based on any slip, or scummy play.
I didn't say anything about usually, just that it happens too often to be discounted and that all trains should therefore be taken seriously. Something I felt Galain was not doing when he placed a second vote on Ruse.
#116 Guest_Shadow_*
Posted 25 August 2008 - 01:26 PM
D said:
Did you just subtly suggest that it makes all the difference that Omtose was the one getting voted on for bullying?
No, I stated that it was interesting that my vote on Omtose for bullying was considered weak, while his case on Ruse(the question of Kaschan silencing himself) is considered strong.
D said:
And what does that mean? You are accusing him of being Big Ben, or just of being reckless/ruthless? And then you do not draw on Omtose playing scummy, either, when you make such a fuss about it in paragraph 1... you undermine your own "case" straightaway...
I am acusing Omtose of being reckless/ruthless, and suggesting thats how Big Ben would play. And to clarify, I am saying that Omtoses reasoning (pushing weak cases for the sake of lynching) is scummy, instead of trying to catch slips or looking for scummy play. Even on day 1 it is counter productive to start a train in the hopes that we can lynch just for the sake of getting a lynch, I would rather that we look at the gameplay of others and present cases based on that, as opposed to bullying and hoping that a train forms "for more information on day 2",regardless of the case, which is what Omtose would like to see.
#117 Guest_Shadow_*
Posted 25 August 2008 - 01:31 PM
Omtose;374309 said:
Woot! Yen
I didn't say anything about usually, just that it happens too often to be discounted and that all trains should therefore be taken seriously. Something I felt Galain was not doing when he placed a second vote on Ruse.
I didn't say anything about usually, just that it happens too often to be discounted and that all trains should therefore be taken seriously. Something I felt Galain was not doing when he placed a second vote on Ruse.
O'RLY?
Omtose;374149 said:
Voting for yourself is stupid unless you're a jester. Anything else is giving up on your team (minus the cases of a few extraordinary gambits I've seen). And I'm not necessarily happy with Galain's vote as it seems a bit opportnistic... but I like bandwagons.
Omtose;374152 said:
lol... He thinks I'm a n00b... You do realise, Galain, that a fair number of times the first person to start getting votes is the day one lynch, right? That's not to say that Ruse should or shouldn't be that lynch in this game, but it is indication that every bandwagon, no matter how small or early, should be taken at least a little seriously.
Am I misreading this, it appears to me that you wanted a wagon and understand that it may lead to the lynch of Ruse, I make this assumption because you left your vote on, and questioned Galain for adding his vote.
#118 Guest_Omtose_*
Posted 25 August 2008 - 01:41 PM
Shadow;374312 said:
No, I stated that it was interesting that my vote on Omtose for bullying was considered weak, while his case on Ruse(the question of Kaschan silencing himself) is considered strong.
I personally feel that my reason for voting Ruse is stronger than yours for voting me, but I would wouldn't I.
Shadow;374312 said:
I am acusing Omtose of being reckless/ruthless, and suggesting thats how Big Ben would play. And to clarify, I am saying that Omtoses reasoning (pushing weak cases for the sake of lynching) is scummy, instead of trying to catch slips or looking for scummy play. Even on day 1 it is counter productive to start a train in the hopes that we can lynch just for the sake of getting a lynch, I would rather that we look at the gameplay of others and present cases based on that, as opposed to bullying and hoping that a train forms "for more information on day 2",regardless of the case, which is what Omtose would like to see.
Please point out where I actually pushed a Ruse lynch? Where did I say that I definitely want him to be the lynch? Where did I call on people to vote for him?
Making suggestions which amount to wifom is scummy play, please don't accuse me ignoring scumminess.
Where did I ever say that I voted Ruse "just for the sake of getting a lynch"? Or "for more information on day 2"? I voted Ruse because he had done the scummiest thing I'd seen so far in the game and the only way to get the game truly started is to start voting.
Ruse's scumminess though is being seriously challenged by your strawmanning and putting words into my mouth.
#119 Guest_Omtose_*
Posted 25 August 2008 - 01:49 PM
Shadow;374316 said:
Am I misreading this, it appears to me that you wanted a wagon and understand that it may lead to the lynch of Ruse, I make this assumption because you left your vote on, and questioned Galain for adding his vote.
Usually would imply most of the time or more times than not. What I said was a fair number of times, the intention behind that post is to point out how all badwagons should be taken seriously.
Yes, I wanted a wagon. Wagons are a primary source of information.
Yes, I was aware that it could lead to his lynch. What point is any wagon without even the threat of a lynch.
Does this mean that I 100% definitely wanted Ruse lynched? No.
#120 Guest_Serc_*
Posted 25 August 2008 - 01:50 PM
Ok we started earlier than I expected. Going to go back and read the 119 posts before this one.
