Thomas Covenant/ Donaldson
#81
Posted 16 May 2009 - 12:32 AM
Mordant's Need was rubbish.
Covenant was one of the first new fantasy lines I read. How do the new ones rate?
Covenant was one of the first new fantasy lines I read. How do the new ones rate?
#82
Posted 16 May 2009 - 02:40 AM
koryk, on May 15 2009, 08:32 PM, said:
Mordant's Need was rubbish.
Covenant was one of the first new fantasy lines I read. How do the new ones rate?
Covenant was one of the first new fantasy lines I read. How do the new ones rate?
Runes of the Eath was very good. Fatal Revenant was amazing - like better than everything else, but for The One Tree.
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#83
Posted 13 August 2009 - 08:50 PM
At this point I've read the first chronicles and am almost finished with The One Tree. I have to agree with a poster above: **Nom** is so far
, although I've not yet gotten to the part that was spoilered.... For my money, the second chronicles have so far outmatched the first, if only because Covenant actually knows how and USES his power. Linden is a brooder, but so is Covenant, so I can't really complain too much. I also appreciate being able to see the rest of the world besides just the one continent of The Land. So far I'm fairly disappointed in the Elohim.
I've read the first Gap book, and loved it too. I'm a fan.
Pilgrim

I've read the first Gap book, and loved it too. I'm a fan.
Pilgrim
Bathtardth! Why you do tha? Hood'th b'eth!
--Emancipor Reese
--Emancipor Reese
#84
Posted 13 August 2009 - 09:08 PM
Gah... I suppose I should get to Fatal Revenant sometime, if it's as good as people make it out to be. I've been sorely tempted to wait until The Last Dark before continuing on with The Last Chronicles, but FR is the only book that Donaldson's written that I haven't read yet, and that bothers me just a little (which is why I bought it last year.) With any other author, I'd be worried about jumping into book 8 of 10 after so much time has passed, but The Runes of the Earth proved that the man can write a dang comprehensive What Has Gone Before...
"Here is light. You will say that it is not a living entity, but you miss the point that it is more, not less. Without occupying space, it fills the universe. It nourishes everything, yet itself feeds upon destruction. We claim to control it, but does it not perhaps cultivate us as a source of food? May it not be that all wood grows so that it can be set ablaze, and that men and women are born to kindle fires?"
―Gene Wolfe, The Citadel of the Autarch
―Gene Wolfe, The Citadel of the Autarch
#85
Posted 13 August 2009 - 09:57 PM
Salt-Man Z, on Aug 13 2009, 02:08 PM, said:
Gah... I suppose I should get to Fatal Revenant sometime, if it's as good as people make it out to be. I've been sorely tempted to wait until The Last Dark before continuing on with The Last Chronicles, but FR is the only book that Donaldson's written that I haven't read yet, and that bothers me just a little (which is why I bought it last year.) With any other author, I'd be worried about jumping into book 8 of 10 after so much time has passed, but The Runes of the Earth proved that the man can write a dang comprehensive What Has Gone Before...
Surely the entire series is worth a reread? I am doing a complete reread for each new book, just like I do with SE.
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#86
Posted 14 August 2009 - 02:49 AM
Oh, I definitely plan on doing a reread when TLD comes out. But I don't have the time/energy to do one now. Too many good books I haven't read yet. (Likewise, my next MBotF reread will likely not be until The Crippled God hits shelves--though I may get by with just rereading a couple favorites.)
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"Here is light. You will say that it is not a living entity, but you miss the point that it is more, not less. Without occupying space, it fills the universe. It nourishes everything, yet itself feeds upon destruction. We claim to control it, but does it not perhaps cultivate us as a source of food? May it not be that all wood grows so that it can be set ablaze, and that men and women are born to kindle fires?"
―Gene Wolfe, The Citadel of the Autarch
―Gene Wolfe, The Citadel of the Autarch
#87
Posted 14 August 2009 - 03:07 AM
I'm with SMZ... Donaldson can be a time consuming reread. I shudder at his thesaurusian skill
I first read the 1st and 2nd chronicles oh, about 7 years ago, and no rereads. I read Runes of the Earth when it came out and realized a reread was needed. But then I no longer have the kind of time I used to back in the day, nor do I have a lack of new things to read, so my Covenant reread (and first reading of FR to TLD) will happen once TLD is out.
Malazan reread is easy for me... I reread GoTM to RG before TtH came out and now I just go through the books reading those important sections that the forum clue me in to

Malazan reread is easy for me... I reread GoTM to RG before TtH came out and now I just go through the books reading those important sections that the forum clue me in to
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#88
Posted 14 August 2009 - 03:39 PM
I generally only read at night before bed, so I do a Malazan-size novel in 2-3 weeks. At last calculation, it would take me well over 6 months to reread the 10 books that are currently out. Figure maybe 2 weeks each for the 8 Covenant books, and that's 3-4 months easy. I just don't want to commit that much time to a reread at this point.
"Here is light. You will say that it is not a living entity, but you miss the point that it is more, not less. Without occupying space, it fills the universe. It nourishes everything, yet itself feeds upon destruction. We claim to control it, but does it not perhaps cultivate us as a source of food? May it not be that all wood grows so that it can be set ablaze, and that men and women are born to kindle fires?"
―Gene Wolfe, The Citadel of the Autarch
―Gene Wolfe, The Citadel of the Autarch
#89
Posted 03 September 2009 - 03:24 PM
I finally finished the second chronicles, and like with the first chronicles, the ending was a WOW moment. Now for the problem. Many times throughout the second chronicles, I found myself skimming the seemingly endless passages of angst from either Covenant or Linden. I think I understood the pain, horror, and oppression of the Sunbane quite well enough by the beginning of the third book, and felt Donaldson just kept hammering after the nail was well beyond set in place.
That said, the ending was worth it, but I'm gonna have to let some of the burnout melt away before attempting the final chronicles.
Pilgrim
That said, the ending was worth it, but I'm gonna have to let some of the burnout melt away before attempting the final chronicles.
Pilgrim
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Bathtardth! Why you do tha? Hood'th b'eth!
--Emancipor Reese
--Emancipor Reese
#90
Posted 04 September 2009 - 10:59 AM
Pilgrim, on Sep 3 2009, 08:24 AM, said:
I finally finished the second chronicles, and like with the first chronicles, the ending was a WOW moment. Now for the problem. Many times throughout the second chronicles, I found myself skimming the seemingly endless passages of angst from either Covenant or Linden. I think I understood the pain, horror, and oppression of the Sunbane quite well enough by the beginning of the third book, and felt Donaldson just kept hammering after the nail was well beyond set in place.
That said, the ending was worth it, but I'm gonna have to let some of the burnout melt away before attempting the final chronicles.
Pilgrim
That said, the ending was worth it, but I'm gonna have to let some of the burnout melt away before attempting the final chronicles.
Pilgrim
That's fair. I love Donaldson, but sometimes the angst does get a bit heavy.
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#91
Posted 08 September 2009 - 09:30 AM
the angst is far more controlled in the final chronicles, the second book of which is the best of the series so far in my opinion.
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#92
Posted 08 September 2009 - 10:36 AM
I just had a thought -- not solely based on their name resemblance, but I wonder if there's anything of Adept Havelock (the best think about Mordant's Need) in Hairlock? I wouldn't put it past SE to put in tributes to characters he admires in fantasy of old...
It is perfectly monstrous the way people go about nowadays saying things against one, behind one's back, that are absolutely and entirely true.
-- Oscar Wilde
-- Oscar Wilde
#93
Posted 11 September 2009 - 03:06 PM
jitsukerr, on 08 September 2009 - 10:36 AM, said:
I just had a thought -- not solely based on their name resemblance, but I wonder if there's anything of Adept Havelock (the best think about Mordant's Need) in Hairlock? I wouldn't put it past SE to put in tributes to characters he admires in fantasy of old...
It's possible. Havelock is a much nicer guy than hairlock though.
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#94
Posted 11 September 2009 - 03:15 PM
You've got Loric/L'oric, too.
"Here is light. You will say that it is not a living entity, but you miss the point that it is more, not less. Without occupying space, it fills the universe. It nourishes everything, yet itself feeds upon destruction. We claim to control it, but does it not perhaps cultivate us as a source of food? May it not be that all wood grows so that it can be set ablaze, and that men and women are born to kindle fires?"
―Gene Wolfe, The Citadel of the Autarch
―Gene Wolfe, The Citadel of the Autarch