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#121 User is offline   caladanbrood 

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Posted 11 June 2008 - 08:19 PM

This was an awesome match while it as still raining! Bit boring now though...
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#122 User is offline   Gothos 

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Posted 11 June 2008 - 08:26 PM

amphibian;328145 said:

The Brazilians have been stuck in a transition from "joga bonito" to the game played by most these days (big strikers, strong holding midfielders and counter-attacking first, slower-building opportunities second) for a while now. The last World Cup and more recent games have showed that their talent isn't always enough to overcome the inconsistencies in philosophy. Too often they get into a 4-2-4 set and when they can't get the fast breaks going, they lose possession in midfield.

I don't know if any sports team truly represents a nation's character, but they do reflect the guiding principles of the people constructing them.

On a different tack: Podolski's second goal against Poland was entirely the result of Schweinsteiger's hard work. The announcers on the ESPN match I watched went on a five minute gush all over Podolski without mentioning the other guy. Dern it.


I must admit that the archetypes are getting... blurry these days. since more and more often players play in teams in several countries in their careers they are influenced by different sport cultures, and, slowly, it seems teams are getting more and more similar to each other, the only difference being the proficiency at the game and endurance, as well as physical predisposition (I'm not sure if it's a word in english, is it? :/). Germans are often playing lively, offensive football, Greeks went into a defensive bulwark, Poles run around like headless chickens without any real idea about what they want to do... etc. deviation. uniformity? to be honest, in this Euro so far, I've seen little variety between teams save for Greece who have been overly defensive, all the others seemed to try a very similar thing, just with different range of success...
at the very least tho archetypes still apply in volleyball :)
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Posted 11 June 2008 - 08:33 PM

Im a bit annoyed this is a group match and not a knock out stage, the extra time in this game would be pure win. :)

I think Ive enjoyed watching this game the most so far, just because it was so strange, tense and even.
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Posted 11 June 2008 - 08:37 PM

GOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1




And Turkey snatch it at the death. Brilliant game.
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Posted 11 June 2008 - 08:39 PM

How sweet was that? Swiss out. Vorkan the Vulcan in turkish goal did himself no harm whatsoever. i know the goal was a deflection but respect for pushing till the end.

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Posted 11 June 2008 - 09:52 PM

Since only 3% of Turkey is in Europe I think only 3% of the team should be allowed to play, say... Nihat's legs.

It's a shame for the tournament that the Swiss are made of purest fail, I hope it doesn't signal the begining of apathy for (one of) the home nations fans, it would be a shame because game for game, so far, I'd say it was one of the most promising tournaments in ages.
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Posted 11 June 2008 - 10:12 PM

I was very confused watched the text commentary, when Switzerland scored though Hakan Yakin... I was sure he was turkish:confused:
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Posted 11 June 2008 - 10:18 PM

He is Turkish.

Although, to be fair, he was born in Basel.
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Posted 11 June 2008 - 10:22 PM

Did the slimy Turkish FA try and tempt him away from the nation of his birth? :)
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Posted 11 June 2008 - 10:34 PM

caladanbrood+;328271 said:

Did the slimy Turkish FA try and tempt him away from the nation of his birth? :)


Want a fight about it?:eek:
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Posted 11 June 2008 - 10:57 PM

Amusingly, they did, actually - he turned them down for "personal reasons."

Probably because Switzerland was where he was born and has spent the vast majority of his career and life. He's of Turkish descent though.
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Posted 12 June 2008 - 12:06 AM

Cougar;327982 said:

An obvious one but Van der Vaart should be looking at his age for the big move, he isn't at a particularlly large club now and he has the quality. There has been some suggestion that he hasn't the temprament ie: he would rather be a big fish in a little pond.



im almost certain he is out of contract this summer and is in fact looking for a move to a big club and off the back of my kanchelski/ukraine:) im going for 2 out of 2!!
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Posted 12 June 2008 - 04:25 PM

Croatia scored! Croatia scored! And it's 1-0!
Who would have thought it? But the match is still long
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Posted 12 June 2008 - 04:50 PM

a most interesting turn of events. the germans are totally routed, the croatians dominate the field of play. what does that tell us about croatians, austrians and our incoming game against austria?
most curious.
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Posted 12 June 2008 - 04:54 PM

I agree with what you say Gothos,

Im looking on the BBC facts though here.

Possesion 61% Germany

Shots on Target Germany 0 Croatia 3

so in summary. Germany are good at holding their balls but have trouble shooting
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Posted 12 June 2008 - 05:21 PM

HAHAHAHAHA 2-0 oh god :)
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Posted 12 June 2008 - 05:31 PM

Of course it is cos ive got ballack as my captain. i should of put money on it!
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Posted 12 June 2008 - 05:34 PM

Incredible! I'm not saying tat I didn't thought Croatia as a strong team but wasn't Germany a favourite if not THE favourite?
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Posted 12 June 2008 - 05:36 PM

Yes they are chap, therefore they are goits

Edit - F ing F er's!

Its now 2-1 great but Ballack has been booked the &*$( *()&%
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Posted 12 June 2008 - 05:36 PM

and yet again we see that
1) Podolski is the best german player
2) Klose is _almost_ like Podolski. but "almost" means a lot.
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