[Werthead]

No, that's an import of the US edition.

[opiate taylor]

@ Pig Iron: Your list of favorite authors is the exact same as mine. Cook, Vance , Wolfe, etc. Just thought you might also like the writer Matthew Hughes. He reads like a cross between Vance and maybe a little Wolfe in there too. Great writer. As far as Cook goes, I fell in love first with the BC books then Dread Empire, then the rest. I don't think he writes as much as he used to. I know Cook has a story in GRR Martin's and Gardner Dozois' Jack Vance anthology, Songs of the Dying Earth. A LOT of writers are on board for this. Vance even gave his blessing for the writers to use his characters and settings freely, so expect to see a Cugel story or two... Can't wait. That one will be out early next year I think.

[Pig Iron]

opiate taylor;345804 said:

@ Pig Iron: Your list of favorite authors is the exact same as mine. Cook, Vance , Wolfe, etc. Just thought you might also like the writer Matthew Hughes. He reads like a cross between Vance and maybe a little Wolfe in there too. Great writer. As far as Cook goes, I fell in love first with the BC books then Dread Empire, then the rest. I don't think he writes as much as he used to. I know Cook has a story in GRR Martin's and Gardner Dozois' Jack Vance anthology, Songs of the Dying Earth. A LOT of writers are on board for this. Vance even gave his blessing for the writers to use his characters and settings freely, so expect to see a Cugel story or two... Can't wait. That one will be out early next year I think.

Nice, will definitely check Hughes out then. Really looking forward to Songs of the Dying Earth too. Do you know if Vance has anything new in progress himself? He's old and I read he's nearly blind now Guess sailing is out for him, but he can still listen to his jazz ...

Wolfe has "An Evil Guest" coming in september.

Edit: Hughes definitely looks like my cup of tea. Ordered his first three. Thanks for the tip.

[Deornoth]

Does anyone know if the UK omnibuses will have the same cover as the US editions (which I think are very cool)?

[carnage4u]

I greatly enjoyed the garret books and find the black company books to be complete trash

I dont know what it means. but I half enjoy this author.

[amphibian]

Deornoth;346106 said:

Does anyone know if the UK omnibuses will have the same cover as the US editions (which I think are very cool)?

I just went over to the UK Amazon and the omnibuses they've got up are US imports. Werthead mentioned something about Gollancz publishing a UK edition, but didn't mention if they'd have the same covers.

I too think they're awesome covers. The White Rose's rack on the first one is truly spectacular.

[Raymond Luxury Yacht]

carnage4u;348488 said:

I greatly enjoyed the garret books and find the black company books to be complete trash

I dont know what it means. but I half enjoy this author.

I think it's interesting that you like SE, but don't like the Black COmpany books. There's a lot of influence on SE from those books. What did you hate about them?

[carnage4u]

Raymond Luxury Yacht;348513 said:

I think it's interesting that you like SE, but don't like the Black COmpany books. There's a lot of influence on SE from those books. What did you hate about them?

I didnt get far into the series.. I just like the feel and characters of the Garret books a lot, and The felt like nice short quick reads. The black company books seemed to be to vague in details. (this might change, but the first book just felt distant and empty to me)


I read 6 of the garret books and want more, its just hard to find them now.

[Raymond Luxury Yacht]

They are vague on details, you have to just pick up a lot of stuff as you go, or fill in the blanks yourself. I didn't mind it, but could see why it would bug people.

[paladin]

If Glen Cook is vague on details just what the hell is Steven Erikson then? I've never been so starved in my life for details after reading GotM

[Raymond Luxury Yacht]

That's one of the influences of Cook on SE, I think.

[Bhurnae]

Optimus Prime;311634 said:

I haven't. But I can't wait for the second Omnibus to come out. I loved the first one, though Cook drove me mad with his "no map" writing ass

Maps of North and South here................

http://www.cofc.edu/~wraggj/blackco/

other stuff

http://www.xmission....C/GC-Links.html

[Pig Iron]

Bhurnae;355233 said:

Maps of North and South here................

http://www.cofc.edu/~wraggj/blackco/

other stuff

http://www.xmission....C/GC-Links.html

Nice, thanks for the links.

[Salt-Man Z]

So I'm reading The White Rose right now (I love these books!) and I just picked up the next 4 at Half Price Books today.

My question: what's the recommended reading order for Silver Spike/Books of the South? I think I saw someone in this thread suggest reading SS first and then the BotS. I've contemplated going by publishing order: Shadow Games, Silver Spike, Dreams of Steel. Does SS spoil anything from Shadow Games?

[Raymond Luxury Yacht]

Salt-Man Z, on Sep 28 2008, 11:26 AM, said:

So I'm reading The White Rose right now (I love these books!) and I just picked up the next 4 at Half Price Books today.

My question: what's the recommended reading order for Silver Spike/Books of the South? I think I saw someone in this thread suggest reading SS first and then the BotS. I've contemplated going by publishing order: Shadow Games, Silver Spike, Dreams of Steel. Does SS spoil anything from Shadow Games?

Go with whatever order they are in in the omnibus. That's How I read it, worked well.

P.S. Black Company books = Pure Win, Instrumentalities are teh FAIL, which makes me sad.

[Salt-Man Z]

Omnibus has The Silver Spike after the other two, so that's probably how I'll do it, then.

[mocker]

love the Cook!
read 'passage at arms' last week, and was pleasantly surprised. considerin i rarely read sci fi i thought it was bloody good!
all the black company novels are still available to buy singely, you just hav to hunt around for them, altough the omnibuses Are lookin damn sexy!

series order goes:

(chronicles)
the black company
shadows linger
the white rose

(stand alone, but read after white rose)
the silver spike

(books of south)
shadow games
dreams of steel

(glittering stone)
bleak seasons
she is the darkness
water sleeps
soldiers live

Read the books in that order and you cant go wrong. sorry if ive missed any its a rush job as im off out! enjoy

This post has been edited by mocker: 29 September 2008 - 01:01 AM

[Salt-Man Z]

Glad to hear good things about Passage at Arms. I put that on my watchlist after seeing it mentioned in a review of Cook's work.

[mocker]

it isnt like an instant classic, its more about reality in these shitty cramped boring emptinesses of space etc etc. but thats why i liked it, was something not done a lot and was well written. but yeah, its a hard one to get into

[Pig Iron]

The Dragon Never Sleeps is great SF. Space-opera with a ferocious pace. This is Amazons blurb:

"For four thousand years, the Guardships have ruled Canon Space - immortal ships with an immortal crew, dealing swiftly and harshly with any mercantile houses or alien races that threaten the status quo. But now the House Tregesser has an edge: a force from outside Canon Space offers them the resources to throw off Guardship rule. This precipitates an avalanche of unexpected outcomes, including the emergence of Kez Maefele, one of the few remaining generals of the Ku Warrior race-the only race to ever seriously threaten Guardship hegemony. Kez Maefele and a motley group of aliens, biological constructs, an scheming aristocrats find themselves at the center of the conflict. Maefele must chose which side he will support: the Guardships, who defeated and destroyed his race, or the unknown forces outside Canon Space that promise more death and destruction. "

And I love Instrumentalities of the Night.