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Posted 11 March 2008 - 03:19 PM

I knew precisely nothing, nada, S.F.A, about this book when i bought it. No internut recommendations, no ARC reviews from blogs, zip. I spotted it in a small independent bookstore where the owners are wise, clever, or intuitive enough to put books with eye catching covers right under the cash register.

And it's hard to be a fantasy/sf fan and not at least glance at the back blurb on something that looks this good...

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The back blurb was similarly encouraging: "In Victorian London, the Whitechapel section is a mechanized, steam-driven hell, cut off and ruled by two mysterious, mechanical gods-Mama Engine and Grandfather Clock. Some years have passed since the Great Uprising, when humans rose up to fight against the machines, but a few brave veterans of the Uprising have formed their own Resistance-and are gathering for another attack. For now they have a secret weapon that may finally free them-or kill them all... ".

Other positives - paperback, so no serious $ risk. Canadian author, so hey, support my own, and self-contained, so no cliffhanger part one of seven ending.

Totally worth it.

S.M. Peters' Whitechapel is a surreal, steampunk, vertical city as interesting in its way as Mieville's New Crobuzon or Lynch's Camorr. Smoke blocks out the sun, ash covers everything, if the bad air doesn't kill you, the mechanical mutation disease likely will. Assuming the gods allow you to die - they aren't very inclined to. But their servants, Grandfather Clock's Goldcloaks, Mama Engine's Blackcloaks, and the no-longer-human Boilermen, are very happy to try and kill you anyways if you get in their way. Yet amazingly, the people of Whitechapel keep on going, and some of them keep on fighting.

Peters' characters are, for the most part, stalwart everyday people in a situation beyond anything they are equipped to deal with. The author does a good job of showing damaged, weak, uncertain people rising to the challenge without the sort of drowning in self-doubt inner dialogue that can really put a reader off a character. Each of them has a chance to shine (or the opposite of that), and each one's plotline arrives at a satisfying conclusion. His dialogue is fun and flows well, and his interactions always move the story forward.

His gods defy explanation but he offers enough to satisfy the reader without spoon-feeding it. There isn't much expository explanation - the history and setting are explained in bits and pieces throughout the book, and by the end, you don't know everything, but you know enough.

His action scenes are just great.

It's not a perfect book, but the shortcomings are nothing i think i need to dwell on or warn you about - i think it's fully worth the purchase and read, and great fun to discover a totally new author.

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Posted 11 March 2008 - 04:13 PM

Looks interesting, I might pick that up when next I order some books...

I am assuming though that the author is S M Peters as it says on the cover, and not S M Sterling alternate history author as you assert in your review? :p
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Posted 11 March 2008 - 05:13 PM

Imperial Historian;272422 said:

Looks interesting, I might pick that up when next I order some books...

I am assuming though that the author is S M Peters as it says on the cover, and not S M Sterling alternate history author as you assert in your review? :p


You assume correctly and review editted accordingly - thanks for the catch. :p Sterling was in a 'if you liked that check out this...' bit on amazon when i was searching the cover image and the similar initials scorched my brainz.

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Posted 11 March 2008 - 06:48 PM

This does sound intruinging. Thanks for the heads up 'byss:)

It's fairly rare to find a bona-fide standalone nowadays, so I might check it out, if it's available in tht UK.
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Posted 11 March 2008 - 07:03 PM

Interesting. :cool:
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Posted 11 March 2008 - 11:32 PM

that is a damn fine cover, and the blurb only makes me more interested. I may have to pick this up. if the book sucks then i still get a consolation prize of cool artwork, win-win
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Posted 12 March 2008 - 12:16 AM

I saw this title at the bookstore just sort of facing me from the shelf and it DID sound awfully interesting! I may have to pick it up.
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Posted 07 May 2009 - 06:05 PM

pimped this elsethread and was wondering if anyone ever read it?

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Posted 08 May 2009 - 10:50 PM

strange story, kinda reminds me of gardens of the moon in that not much is explained, and your dumped into the middle of this strange world. enjoyed it, and would enjoy a sequel, or even a prequel with more info
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Posted 08 May 2009 - 11:04 PM

Now I really want to buy this... Crap... :p
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Posted 09 May 2009 - 01:25 PM

nae as good as garden of the moon, so dont get too disappointed, but a minor gem in its own right
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Posted 11 May 2009 - 03:04 PM

Fair comments - there is a huge 'wtf!?!?' element to this story, but i like that. Thank you SE, I'm passed the point of being frustrated when an author doesn't spoonfeed the reader everything. The characters don't always know every detail of what's going on, so why should the reader?

In fact, the lack of knowledge is part of what makes the characters impressive - two 'gods' show up one day and turn their city into an enclosed hell. They are overwhelmed and confused and way way outmtached, but they act anyways and its believable.

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Posted 11 May 2009 - 06:08 PM

he has a new book out, Ghost Ocean. different world to whitechapel gods
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Posted 11 May 2009 - 09:36 PM

why so he does! nice catch Riot.

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Posted 04 April 2010 - 07:41 AM

GHOST OCEAN... the back blurb, the cheezy 'hot chick in a leather jacket with crows' cover... it all makes SM Peters second novel GHOST OCEAN sound like yet another empowered-female-urban-fantasy book.

It's not.

Yes, there is a female lead, tho she's not the only viewpoint character. And it is urban fantasy, tho all kinds of sf elements pop up too.

It's like (pre-vamporn) Anita Blake meets The Prisoner meets Call of Cthulu meets Alice in Wonderland meets American Gods. No really.

Peters blew me away with WHITECHAPEL GODS. It was one of my fave books of last year. I can't quite praise GHOST as highly, but holy fnck Peters has a mind for setting and scope. He still doesn't spoon feed his readers. St Ives doesn't quite come as alive as his Whitechapel did, but the sheer concepts he throws into this book are great and i really, really enjoyed it for that, amongst other things. He has a really good hand at creating characters too. The vampire who doesn't really understand why he's a vampire or even unalive and has never met another vampire to ask, the recluse who watches tv static to predict the future... and his monsters are great. For the most part original, intelligent creations that are real threats.

The basics seem trite - Te is a young lady, her father died in mysterious circumstances, her father's best friend has brought her into his ghost hunting business, they fall into something way bigger than a cranky poltergeist and Te must needs save the day by finding whatever it is that makes her special. You put it that way and it's yawn i'd rather reread something else. And then shit starts happening and the pieces start to come together and the setting expands and i'm impressed.

Peters' finishes this book in satisfying fashion as he did with GODS, leaving it open to come back but tieing up the story cleanly.

I liked. I recommend. I'm going to keep watching this author because i suspect his best is yet to come.

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Posted 04 April 2010 - 05:15 PM

I read somewhere that he's going to make another ghost ocean book, but he doesnt seem to have a website himself. Whitechapel gods is still a favourite and wanna see more from him in general
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Posted 06 April 2010 - 04:08 PM

He really does fly under the genre radar, unfortunately. Possibly a GO series is intended to draw in the urban fantasy fans that are buying Sookie Stackhouse vamporn. If it gets him more dollars and he writes more books, fine by me. I suspect he'll eventually put out a book that blows the readers away at some point and he'll start to get more attention.

Whatever the case, he's 2/2 for me.
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Posted 07 April 2010 - 09:46 PM

interview with the author here:

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Posted 10 September 2012 - 09:46 PM

Necro'd because I'm reading Ghost Ocean right now and it's incredible. It couldn't be more different than Whitechapel Gods (which I loved) and yet the feel so similar, like Peters is transcribing his nightmares or something. I love the voice he's developed with these two novels, and if he ever does get a third book published (soon, please!) I'll buy it sight unseen.
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Posted 11 September 2012 - 05:00 AM

View PostSalt-Man Z, on 10 September 2012 - 09:46 PM, said:

Necro'd because I'm reading Ghost Ocean right now and it's incredible. It couldn't be more different than Whitechapel Gods (which I loved) and yet the feel so similar, like Peters is transcribing his nightmares or something. I love the voice he's developed with these two novels, and if he ever does get a third book published (soon, please!) I'll buy it sight unseen.


Oh good glad to see someone else appreciate this.
Peters really needs to get another book out. Rumour was it would be a Ghost Ocean sequel tho i admit to wanting him to go for something yet again totally new.
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