[Mcflury]

well, okay, idd, it's not a fact Hood doesn't breath... it is idd what people believe... but isn't that what counts in religion anyways?

And yes, I meant Togg's teats (I kinda have trouble remembering all those god's names really... so I basically only remember the cool names, like Hood and Fener and Treach (and offcourse cotillion and ST, but they're not really gods to me... since I don't like ST, and cotillion is still too much of a human). Anyways: many names, hard to remember

[Gimli's love child]

@Mcflurry aye I see your point but if I honestley start to associate the malaz world with this one then the point of escapism is lost forever... well that and I might eventually stab someone with a bastard sword for killing WJ!

[Mcflury]

LOL! I'd love to see that one in the newspapers though: "Person stabs tall looking guy because he killed a certain Whiskeyjack".
Okay, sure, don't mix up this world with the fictional world, du'uh, but just start using the fictional curses in real life... besides, it's funny to see someone look at you in a weird fashion because you just said something that doesn't make sense at all... to them

[Jayblah]

Gotta agree with the OP; I thought the prevalence of words like "fuck" and "shit" became distracting.

I noticed many of people citing Fiddler's "fucking dragons" remark as one of the funniest in the series in the funniest moments thread, but I felt it was really groan worthy.

[Gimli's love child]

Meh.. different strokes for different folks at the end of the day I suppose but at least I'm not alone in my thoughts.

You see McFlury I'm not too good at distinguishing looks, when people look at me funny I either think 'Shit! this woman might actually fuck me!' OR 'Why is that guy starin at me?.. does he want a pint?'

Both options I end up losing money so providing more ammo might not be the best idea

[Gothos]

christ, people, what's the problem here?
naturally there wouldn't be any stuff like "God forbid", "go to Hell", "Jesus Christ!", "GOD!" appearing in the books, but what, why not the good old "fuck"? would you like it translated somehow? doesn't fit. didn't seem out of place for me at all, I'm surprised anyone's actually making a fuss over that.


btw, Q21, is that Khorne's symbol in your avatar? :-)

[Trotts]

Im not wild about the use of words like "fuck" or "shit". It doesnt pull me out of the world, but it certainly doesnt immerse me further.

One of the things that got me hooked was how independently developed the worlds were; their own tribes, histories, religious variations, and of course unique curses.

[Mcflury]

well, aside the fucks, shits and other curses, I also like all the threats some of the characters make... the most remarkable one being Hellian threatening she'll hurt herself if her squad doesn't listen... made me smile from ear to ear

[Jayblah]

Trotts;237775 said:

Im not wild about the use of words like "fuck" or "shit". It doesnt pull me out of the world, but it certainly doesnt immerse me further.

Having those expletives used as often as they were in Reaper's Gales really made them stick out like a sore thumb. Particularly when previous books had little to no f-bomb incidents.

Reaper's Gale made Casino's dialogue look like a G-rated movie.

[BridgeBurner]

Gothos;237765 said:

christ, people, what's the problem here?
naturally there wouldn't be any stuff like "God forbid", "go to Hell", "Jesus Christ!", "GOD!" appearing in the books, but what, why not the good old "fuck"? would you like it translated somehow? doesn't fit. didn't seem out of place for me at all, I'm surprised anyone's actually making a fuss over that.

Personally I don't mind the use of "shit"; I've seen it in BH a couple of times in my current reread. As far as I can recall only in thoughts though.

However, when Fiddler starts shouting "fucking dragon" out of the blue, to me that seemed totally out of place for that character (and not even funny). I think that is what others like Abyss and Dolorous Menhir mean as well when they say they don't like the way it's used in RG.

[Gothos]

seriously, I can't, really can't see how that EVER could be a big issue with anyone. why wouldn't he say it? why? tell me, what's the real fuss. cos what you lot are saying so far doesn't make the slightest sense, unless you're a bunch of whiny, crying momma's boys, which I don't think you are, are you?

[Mcflury]

well, honoustly... the fucking dragon quote thing... It's exactly what I would say if I was in Fid's shoes really... if I was English, perhaps I would've said bloody dragon (and nobody would actually mind that, since... well... the dragon was bloody )... but since I'm not english (and neither is Fid anyways) we say fucking... it's as easy as that really

So SE, if you read this: replace all your 'fucking' with 'bloody' in the future, that way less people will think it doesn't fit

[BridgeBurner]

Gothos;237928 said:

seriously, I can't, really can't see how that EVER could be a big issue with anyone. why wouldn't he say it? why? tell me, what's the real fuss. cos what you lot are saying so far doesn't make the slightest sense, unless you're a bunch of whiny, crying momma's boys, which I don't think you are, are you?

My mom would despair if I were, with her being 67 and all .

I'm not losing sleep over it, Gothos, so it's not a big issue. In my case I was just describing my first reaction on reading it. I'll probably not take notice the next time I read RG or just read faster there.

People should be able to say they don't like this without being a crybaby, though. Just like people should be able to say that The Errant isn't the source of all evil (basically nobody in this series is, looking at their personal motives), or that too many Bugg and Tehol dialogues would get tedious.

[Gothos]

well I don't cuss next to my mom either, y'know ;-) but I'd hazard any of us that, say, saw a sharper roll his way, wouldn't utter a slim litte powerful word while looking for some miraclous cover ;-)

[Mcflury]

hah! If I saw a sharper roll my way, I'd probably say 'bugger' and then be blown to pieces... it would be a great last word imo

[Sinisdar Toste]

i have to agree with gothos here. how are words like shit and fuck 'out of context' or 'reality reminders'? shit is excrement, we all do it, even malazans. they may speak malaz but SE has to translate for us. and fuck? why thats intercourse, and they have it too. taboo subjects translated into curses. cant have intelligent organisms without it.

[Coco with marshmallows]

as i've said before, my problem isn't so much with their usage, it's that they never appeared till so much later in the books.

surely somebody on the Chain of Dogs or in the battle of Coral might have said fuck/shit

but they didn't, they used the curses that SE created.
it's their belated appearrance i find distracting.

[Sinisdar Toste]

well i guess that is a good point, myself i wasnt at all distracted. maybe just cuz i use them so much in my daily life i just skipped over em.

[Jayblah]

In books 1-6 if Fiddler survived an encounter with a dragon, he might say "Hood's hairy balls, blasted dragon!" or even " Togg's titillating teats, run bastard!" or even "Fener's furry balls, away with you!" but he would not have said "fucking dragon." Suddenly, in Reaper's Gale, the f-bomb is everywhere. That, and only that, is the issue that many people have with RG's expletives. Its just a distraction from the atmosphere set by the preceding novels. I'll get over it.

I don't have a fucking problem with using the word "fuck" (see what I did there?), dig? Hope it sinks in this fucking time. Fuck.

[Gothos]

Jayblah;238060 said:

Its just a distraction from the atmosphere set by the preceding novels.

I wasn't even starting to guess that it could be possible that it was an atmosphere, totally wasn't any distraction for me, hence my astonishment at the sensitivity of so many.